Flacco takes blame

Flacco takes blame

There are 68 comments on the Baltimore Sun story from Oct 6, 2008, titled Flacco takes blame. In it, Baltimore Sun reports that:

Joe Flacco wasn't any different after two straight losses than he was after two straight wins.

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Ken

Baltimore, MD

#22 Oct 6, 2008
You can't place all the blame on Flacco. He was on the sidelines while our supposed great defense blew a 4th quarter lead by letting the other team drive down the field for a score... for the second straight week. Yeah we have the best defense in quarters 1-3, but 4th quarter? Not so much.
mike- nottingham

United States

#23 Oct 6, 2008
Anti Gary wrote:
<quoted text>Because they will not win "big games" with Flacco at quarterback. You need an experienced quarterback to win in this league. This is not Delaware!
Then how do you explain the Steelers winning with a rookie QB a couple of years ago?
gail

Gambrills, MD

#24 Oct 6, 2008
In my opinion, the fact that we could not stop the Titans on critical 3rd and long played a big factor in our loss. Special team gave up too many yards. We went to Willis too often. He is hurt and was somewhat ineffecient. Is the coaching staff staying with Willis to avoid a T.O. situation?
MikeTF2

United States

#25 Oct 6, 2008
There is obviously no sideline mentoring from the OC are the QB coach. How do you let the kid do the same thing 3 times in the same game? Throw back into underneath coverage? If you are that close to the sideline throw it away and we can live for another play. After the second pick that was nullified, we should have never seen that happen again in the game, but we did.
On the D side of the ball, why are you doing delayed blitzes when the game is on the line and sending the blitzing linebacker directly into an offensive lineman??? Ray did it twice in that final drive and that is where Collins threw to. It has been an all out 2nd half screw-up for 2 straight games by the entire team, coaches and players. This team and especially the coaching staff is being held to the "Palin" standard. Enough of this young team crap. They are paid a hell of a lot of dough to play this bad when the game is on the line. All that glitters is not gold, but the glitter on this team maybe rust from others in the league (Bengals and Browns). If we can't win 3 to 4 of the next 5 games, this season is a wrap. The talent is there and parity in the league is rampant. We are letting too many opportunities slip out of our hands..
GHT

Portland, OR

#26 Oct 6, 2008
MikeTF2 wrote:
There is obviously no sideline mentoring from the OC are the QB coach. How do you let the kid do the same thing 3 times in the same game? Throw back into underneath coverage? If you are that close to the sideline throw it away and we can live for another play. After the second pick that was nullified, we should have never seen that happen again in the game, but we did.
On the D side of the ball, why are you doing delayed blitzes when the game is on the line and sending the blitzing linebacker directly into an offensive lineman??? Ray did it twice in that final drive and that is where Collins threw to. It has been an all out 2nd half screw-up for 2 straight games by the entire team, coaches and players. This team and especially the coaching staff is being held to the "Palin" standard. Enough of this young team crap. They are paid a hell of a lot of dough to play this bad when the game is on the line. All that glitters is not gold, but the glitter on this team maybe rust from others in the league (Bengals and Browns). If we can't win 3 to 4 of the next 5 games, this season is a wrap. The talent is there and parity in the league is rampant. We are letting too many opportunities slip out of our hands..
we di let 2 winnable games get away but we have a schedule where we play 5 of 6 on the road starting in of all places, Indy next week. I just dont see us holding up.
OrioleMagic

Baltimore, MD

#27 Oct 6, 2008
Although he comes from Football Royalty, Coach Harbaugh might not be as smart as he thinks he is. His misuse of timeouts and that incredible failure to challenge the referees blown touchdown call against the Steelers come to mind. He, or Cam Cameron, continue to call for pass plays in situations where a run would be advisable. Exotic play-calling isn't going to fool defensive coordinators in the NFL.

Also, Harbaugh is a little Brian Billick-like in his devotion to Joe Flacco. Is it written in stone that Joe Flacco must play every down of every game? He is a rooke QB from a Division 1-AA school. It might actually help him if he sat out a series, or two, and observed the game. It would also help Troy Smith (health permitting) to get in some "game" practice. It should be obvious to all that whenever Joe Flacco is flushed out of the pocket the roulette game begins:'will it be a completion, an interception, or will he take the sack, or simply throw the ball away'.

Last note, Automatic Matt Stover is at the end of his excellent career. His range and accuracy have steadily declined. Any field goal attempt beyond 45 yards is wishful thinking.
Ben

United States

#28 Oct 6, 2008
mike- nottingham wrote:
<quoted text>
Then how do you explain the Steelers winning with a rookie QB a couple of years ago?
The Steelers were 15-1 in Roethlisberger's rookie year.
GHT

Portland, OR

#29 Oct 6, 2008
OrioleMagic wrote:
Although he comes from Football Royalty, Coach Harbaugh might not be as smart as he thinks he is. His misuse of timeouts and that incredible failure to challenge the referees blown touchdown call against the Steelers come to mind. He, or Cam Cameron, continue to call for pass plays in situations where a run would be advisable. Exotic play-calling isn't going to fool defensive coordinators in the NFL.
Also, Harbaugh is a little Brian Billick-like in his devotion to Joe Flacco. Is it written in stone that Joe Flacco must play every down of every game? He is a rooke QB from a Division 1-AA school. It might actually help him if he sat out a series, or two, and observed the game. It would also help Troy Smith (health permitting) to get in some "game" practice. It should be obvious to all that whenever Joe Flacco is flushed out of the pocket the roulette game begins:'will it be a completion, an interception, or will he take the sack, or simply throw the ball away'.
Last note, Automatic Matt Stover is at the end of his excellent career. His range and accuracy have steadily declined. Any field goal attempt beyond 45 yards is wishful thinking.
platooning is what Earl Weaver does with Roenicke and Lowenstein NOT what you do in the NFL. A QB learns playing, not watching. You can watch for 2 years but under center, it's a whole new game. To put Troy in and let him play himself back into shape in 3+ games means I'd rather just stick with Flacco and let him get experience.
1ravensfan

Annapolis, MD

#30 Oct 6, 2008
Anti Gary wrote:
<quoted text>You are an idiot. Negative? Is 7-9 going to make the playoffs. Listen dumb ****, do you really think these guys trulybelieve they can win with Flacco as the starting QB? As for Stover, he's finished. Another one that should have left with Billick. I bet you still wanted Billick here. Keep yor hopes up stupid ****. It's a rebuilding year!
These Guys go out and play extremely hard every week. The team expect to have ups and downs out of Flacco. These guys are footlball players and they know a player when they see one. The defense continues to go out there and allows this team an oppurtunity to win. This kid was simply trying to make plays outside of the pocket. He was keeping the play alive after the initil read broke down. He must throw the ball away when nothings there but it wasnt as if he was afraid to make the plays. Flacco will get better. We just lose to two teams that were 9-1 and should have beaten both teams this team will be a much better team in the secondd half of the season. The stupid penalty for roughing the passer was a phantom call and you have to give the titans O-line credit because they were able to pick up the blitz. I still have confidence in Flacco and the ravens as a team. it is still early and the kid is showing alot of ba**s I just hope the Harbaugh doesnt listen to the morons thats calling for flacco to get benched
1ravensfan

Annapolis, MD

#31 Oct 6, 2008
Ken wrote:
You can't place all the blame on Flacco. He was on the sidelines while our supposed great defense blew a 4th quarter lead by letting the other team drive down the field for a score... for the second straight week. Yeah we have the best defense in quarters 1-3, but 4th quarter? Not so much.
This defense is great for four quaters. THe titans is a professiona football team that is capable of making plays but they know that the just faced a physical defense
jon dey

Dieppe, Canada

#32 Oct 6, 2008
I think Joe's going to be a above average QB some day. But he has to stop throwing when he's running right. By the way, whatever happened to Heap?
1ravensfan

Annapolis, MD

#33 Oct 6, 2008
gail wrote:
In my opinion, the fact that we could not stop the Titans on critical 3rd and long played a big factor in our loss. Special team gave up too many yards. We went to Willis too often. He is hurt and was somewhat ineffecient. Is the coaching staff staying with Willis to avoid a T.O. situation?
the Phantom roughing the passer penalty on 4th &10is the most critical third down play
Motorhead Fan

Richmond, VA

#34 Oct 6, 2008
A missed field goal

11 Penalties

....and we're talking about Flacco as if he's the centerpiece of this loss. Come on you guys. Damn.
Christopher

United States

#35 Oct 6, 2008
Anti Gary wrote:
<quoted text>You are an idiot. Negative? Is 7-9 going to make the playoffs. Listen dumb ****, do you really think these guys trulybelieve they can win with Flacco as the starting QB? As for Stover, he's finished. Another one that should have left with Billick. I bet you still wanted Billick here. Keep yor hopes up stupid ****. It's a rebuilding year!
Jesus dude, you need to step away from the keyboard and relax for a second. 7-9 wins, I believe, is a realistic and reasonable expectation for this season. Most likely the Ravens will be watching the playoffs from home, but you don't see me getting ready to jump off the ledge. If the Ravens do get to 9 wins however, that may be enough to win the AFC North. We'll just have to wait and see.

I just don't understand what your overall point is. Please enlighten me, oh brilliant one. If you truly believe this is a "rebuilding" year, then what exactly is your problem with Flacco at QB? Shouldn't he be using this year to grow and gain experience? As for Stover...maybe he's finished, maybe he's not. Considering he's been the Ravens' kicker for their entire existence, I think the team owes him at least a few weeks to see if he's able to shake this.

And just for the record, I had no problems with Billick getting canned. Although I do think he took a lot of unnecessary blame for some of the things that went on. Do you think the team discipline is any better this year? How do you feel about the time management? The same things you probably hated about Billick are mostly still present today...
mike- nottingham

Baltimore, MD

#36 Oct 6, 2008
Ben wrote:
<quoted text>The Steelers were 15-1 in Roethlisberger's rookie year.
I know. Maybe you should let Anti-Gary in on that. I notice he has not responded to you or me.
mike- nottingham

Baltimore, MD

#37 Oct 6, 2008
Christopher wrote:
<quoted text>
Jesus dude, you need to step away from the keyboard and relax for a second. 7-9 wins, I believe, is a realistic and reasonable expectation for this season. Most likely the Ravens will be watching the playoffs from home, but you don't see me getting ready to jump off the ledge. If the Ravens do get to 9 wins however, that may be enough to win the AFC North. We'll just have to wait and see.
I just don't understand what your overall point is. Please enlighten me, oh brilliant one. If you truly believe this is a "rebuilding" year, then what exactly is your problem with Flacco at QB? Shouldn't he be using this year to grow and gain experience? As for Stover...maybe he's finished, maybe he's not. Considering he's been the Ravens' kicker for their entire existence, I think the team owes him at least a few weeks to see if he's able to shake this.
And just for the record, I had no problems with Billick getting canned. Although I do think he took a lot of unnecessary blame for some of the things that went on. Do you think the team discipline is any better this year? How do you feel about the time management? The same things you probably hated about Billick are mostly still present today...
Some folks , like Mr. Steele, of the Sun want Flacco out and Smith in for reasons that have nothing to do with football talent. Smith does not have the size or arm strength to be a starting NFL QB. Which is the reason, Heisman or not, that he was still available to the Ravens. Reading Steele's column the other day you could read between the lines to know it is just galling him no end that Flacco and Collins are playing instead of Smith and Young.

Since: Jun 08

Ellicott City, Maryland

#38 Oct 6, 2008
Anti Gary wrote:
<quoted text>Because they will not win "big games" with Flacco at quarterback. You need an experienced quarterback to win in this league. This is not Delaware!
I don't think you know what rebuilding means. Your answer has nothing to do with them "rebuilding."

Since: Jun 08

Ellicott City, Maryland

#39 Oct 6, 2008
mike- nottingham wrote:
<quoted text>
I know. Maybe you should let Anti-Gary in on that. I notice he has not responded to you or me.
The Steelers also had a much better team that year and had a hall of fame coach. There is a reason why rookie QBs are rarely successful.
ctr

Spring, TX

#40 Oct 6, 2008
Win as a team -- lose as a team.
Joe Flacco and the young O-Line will bet better at end of games. And the defense will too, if it can stay healthy.

Peyton Manning was 3-13 and Troy Aikman was 1-15 as rookie QBs. Big Ben was an anomaly. Joe Cool is no Ryan Leaf!
mike- nottingham

Baltimore, MD

#41 Oct 6, 2008
AngryDragon84 wrote:
<quoted text>
The Steelers also had a much better team that year and had a hall of fame coach. There is a reason why rookie QBs are rarely successful.
You are right, it is rare but can be done. I don't see how anyone can think the Ravens would do better with either Smith or Boller at QB. Boller has had approx. 7 years to prove himself and Smith would have been drafted a long time before the Ravens got to him if he had what Coaches and GM's are looking for at QB.

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