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Coast Guard calls off search for 3 missing boaters in Gulf of M...

There are 38 comments on the Orlando Sentinel story from Mar 3, 2009, titled Coast Guard calls off search for 3 missing boaters in Gulf of M.... In it, Orlando Sentinel reports that:

Members of missing boater Corey Smith's family grieve after they learned the search was being called off.

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not right

Winter Haven, FL

#30 Mar 4, 2009
I don't think this 2-4 hour thing can be correct. Why would they give up so soon? That would have been Saturday afternoon, right? Still in the light of day? I think the reporting is probably lacking here.
honeypot

Fairfax, VA

#31 Mar 4, 2009
They can search forever, maybe they'll find something but it won't be 3 living football players.

Let the denial begin. The sooner it does, the sooner it will end, and these families can move on to the next stage in their grief.
JoAnn

Gilbert, AZ

#32 Mar 4, 2009
The waves were horrific - 7 - 15 ft--
and very powerful -- perhaps they thought it would take them to shore...but we weren't there--so will never know. I am the parent of 2 sons in the NAVY and there are sailors that have gone overboard, while on deck, from the waves. The Navy searches for 24hrs using boats & helicopters, and bodies not recovered. After 24hrs chances of surviving dehydration, hypothermia.

There was an excellent movie out a couple years ago at the Video store about a couple that went on deep sea fishing trip and were left by the boat accidentally -- I don't remember the name of it -- good for trying to understand.

My sympathies to the families left behind. JoAnn
I just need more cow bell

Bryant, AL

#33 Mar 4, 2009
Pat wrote:
It is a sad situation. As an avid boater myself, there is no way I would choose to discard my lifejacket in a situation like this. I can not imagine that after just a few hours these men gave up and removed their lifejackets. These men were clearly not quiters, you don't make it in sports if you quit. The story does not add up. The last thing a person would do in this situation is remove their life jacket, especially after such a short time in the water. It was all they needed to survive. And why did the family not report them missing Saturday night? A lot of questions remain about this sad story.
Rent the movie Open Water. It is based on a true story of a couple of very experienced divers left to float at sea for a day or so after their boat left them.
It was determine later by experts that they both ended up removing their bcvs at diffrent points, and giving it up to the sea. What a gut-wrenching choice to have to make.
catherine

Columbia, SC

#34 Mar 4, 2009
I am not sure what Nic Schuyler was saying but the HLN healine referred to these men as having quit. I think that is very inappropriate under the circumstances.

Also as other posters have pointed out hypothermia affects people overpoweringly and in different ways.

Prayers for the families. And for the men too.
flagrl

Deland, FL

#39 Mar 4, 2009
Sorry but the guy they rescued didnt look that bad, he had on a rain jacket, life jacket, on top of the boat not in water and still had his flip flops on in the picture on the stretcher. He looked as if he was placed on top of that boat. Watch the clip of him being rolled on the stretcher he doesnt look that bad. Hes lying about what happened. I keep looking at the picture of him on top of the boat and looking towards the coast guard as they approach, he looks fine, not dioriented at all.
catherine

Columbia, SC

#40 Mar 4, 2009
flagrl wrote:
Sorry but the guy they rescued didnt look that bad, he had on a rain jacket, life jacket, on top of the boat not in water and still had his flip flops on in the picture on the stretcher. He looked as if he was placed on top of that boat. Watch the clip of him being rolled on the stretcher he doesnt look that bad. Hes lying about what happened. I keep looking at the picture of him on top of the boat and looking towards the coast guard as they approach, he looks fine, not dioriented at all.
I do get a feeling that all is not being told, and/or that something is not right at all. I didn't see the rescue but it seems very strange that the survivor was on the boat.
I don't think the others would have taken off their lifevests. The survivor says he did once he saw the rescuers. Perhaps there were no lifevests. The survivor's doctor intimated that he was struggling to survive, yet in the clip I saw of him on stretcher he was not lying flat out at all.
How did he get to be on top of the boat. No. There is more to this I agree. The Surivior would not speak to the media. HLN had as a headline others 'quit'. I thought that was very inappropriate and a poor rush to judgement. It was wrong to frame it like that under the circumstances.

Prayers to the family.
btlovesgod

Orlando, FL

#42 Mar 5, 2009
MMMMM, something is very wrong with this guys story. It doesn't add up. The DR stated that he had moderate hypothermia (body temperature of 89) and that he was physically fit and thats what saved his life. The other guys were physically fit as well and subjected to the same conditions. Are we to believe that there temperatures were that different? Why were they not on top of this cap-sided boat? Something is very strange about this guys story and I pray that he is telling the whole truth and nothing but. If it was my family I would ask him to take a lie-detector test? It just doesn't seem likely to give up in just a few hours when you put yourself at risk each time you are on the football field.
catherine

Columbia, SC

#43 Mar 5, 2009
btlovesgod wrote:
MMMMM, something is very wrong with this guys story. It doesn't add up. The DR stated that he had moderate hypothermia (body temperature of 89) and that he was physically fit and thats what saved his life. The other guys were physically fit as well and subjected to the same conditions. Are we to believe that there temperatures were that different? Why were they not on top of this cap-sided boat? Something is very strange about this guys story and I pray that he is telling the whole truth and nothing but. If it was my family I would ask him to take a lie-detector test? It just doesn't seem likely to give up in just a few hours when you put yourself at risk each time you are on the football field.
A few members of family were on Larry King last night. They are hopeful the men will be found by their ongoing private search. Corrie's brother said leaving it in God's hands. They said they were saying prayers for Nic Schuyler but would like to speak with him personally. Very dignified all of them and with strong faith.

Why would Nic be on the boat and the others not. Why would Nic take off his lifevest when he sees survivors. That does not make sense. Why would the others all take off their lifevests after 2 hours. Something is not right and Nic's saying they gave up after 2 hours is very suspect. They were obviously very fit men and very strong willed and had much to live for, This 'quitting' theme which came from Nic could be as was said last night speculation. But it also could be Nic be less than honest.
Also as above poster points out Nic did not seem to be on his deathbed which IMO his doctor was implying.

My prayers are with the families and the men.
testel remove

United States

#44 Mar 5, 2009
my heart goes out to the family of the nfl boys that a bad way to go hope they was save if they were save they are with the lord and they are happy watching over us that boat was two small to be in that kind of water and that far out of reach my heart hurt.
Science Educator

Norman, OK

#45 Mar 5, 2009
Folks there is nothing "wrong" with his story. Do some research in survival psychology and the physical response of the brain to trauma like fear, hypothermia, etc.

Schuyler was near death when found. Brain dysfunction can start when the body hits 93 degrees and unconsciousness happens at 86 degrees. Thus Schuyler was only three degrees away from dying. If the men had been drinking then hypothermia and dehydration would set in faster. In similar lost at sea cases people have "lost their minds" fairly quickly. While two hours may not be accurate (Schuyler's sense of time may have been impacted by his own hypothermia) his story is actually what would be expected by most experts.

In survival, a battle of wills takes place in everyone's mind, but until you face it you'll never know how you'll react. Mental toughness is not the same as physical toughness. when fear, pain, hypothermia, and imminent death are in play there is no such thing as rational though. Those who control their emotions and allow their instincts to drive their decisions will often survive longer than those who give in to fear or worse expecting someone else to 'save' them.

Schuyler just lost three of his best friends..to attack him so ignorantly is uncalled for. He had 'it' and they apparently didn't.
ranger walker

Thomaston, GA

#47 Mar 6, 2009
may god bless each family god don't put much on us we cant bare keep your heads up and keep praying may god bless each one god loves you and the three mens that are missing
Ink Spot

Russia

#48 Mar 6, 2009
Ink Spots R hard to see in da water. What, whad ja think?
Ink Spot

West Lafayette, IN

#50 Mar 6, 2009
Let it grow, let it grow, let it blossom. Have it Reattached. Oh Lord.
Sarafina

Houston, TX

#51 Mar 6, 2009
I just pray that they find the remains, so the families can have some sort of closure. Sometimes life is not fair.
Same Person

West Lafayette, IN

#52 Mar 6, 2009
Sarafina wrote:
I just pray that they find the remains, so the families can have some sort of closure. Sometimes life is not fair.
This 'Life' was not designed by the maker 'to be fair', and we personally feel the pain, and, are very sorry for that :( > When you wake up, do you think twice, or just touch and see? Anyways... life is so so very short.
Lost way too much family and friends, sorry there.
7-cry

United States

#53 Mar 6, 2009
if people can scan the earth the mountains the deep oceans for goal for junk and just to look at a fish then somebody anybody needs to find three big health bodys People looked for the old diamonds from the titanic but can't look for life their not dead until we see them dead. tell that l.a fitness guy to get his coat on and start retracting story!!!!!!!!!!
Vicki

Roanoke, VA

#54 Mar 6, 2009
I just need more cow bell wrote:
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Rent the movie Open Water. It is based on a true story of a couple of very experienced divers left to float at sea for a day or so after their boat left them.
It was determine later by experts that they both ended up removing their bcvs at diffrent points, and giving it up to the sea. What a gut-wrenching choice to have to make.
I saw this movie and it really freaked me out. I had a bad experience one yr while on vacation at the beach. I'll just say to this day it was a shark that rubbed by my waist/legs while I was going after my son who was on a float...the rub against my waist and legs was a feeling I never want to experience again. I pray for the famlies of the missing... I can't imagine the fear they all experienced before they gave up.

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