Boat found off Fla.; unsure if NFL pl...

Boat found off Fla.; unsure if NFL players aboard

There are 55 comments on the El Paso Times story from Mar 2, 2009, titled Boat found off Fla.; unsure if NFL players aboard. In it, El Paso Times reports that:

St. Petersburg Times photographer Jack Rowland videotapes the dock Monday March 2, 2009, where four men, two current NFL players, and two former University of South Florida football players, left from to go ...

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Transplanted Texan

Modesto, CA

#1 Mar 2, 2009
Nick Schuyler is the person found and has been transported to a hospital.
Sad

Harrisburg, PA

#2 Mar 3, 2009
I think that they are dead.
james

West Milford, NJ

#5 Mar 3, 2009
I Think That wrote:
I think that if you go out on a boat , You should know how to swim :)
knowing how to swim will not help you for long imagine if they are trapped inside the boat
CBOW

Williamsport, PA

#6 Mar 3, 2009
As a seasoned boater, they didn't check the weather. You never go out when the weather is potentially going to decline.
Mr Stratford

Morris, CT

#7 Mar 3, 2009
james wrote:
<quoted text>knowing how to swim will not help you for long imagine if they are trapped inside the boat
I think it is a center console.
YOZZA

Harrisburg, PA

#8 Mar 3, 2009
I wonder if they were wearing life jackets.
I Think That

AOL

#10 Mar 3, 2009
CBOW wrote:
As a seasoned boater, they didn't check the weather. You never go out when the weather is potentially going to decline.
Thats it !

You hit the nail on the head .

I'm a seasoned boater and I ALWAYS check the weather.

They say its not the size of the ship (boat).
Its the Motion of the Ocean.
CBOW

Williamsport, PA

#11 Mar 3, 2009
I Think That wrote:
<quoted text> Thats it !
You hit the nail on the head .
I'm a seasoned boater and I ALWAYS check the weather.
They say its not the size of the ship (boat).
Its the Motion of the Ocean.
True. I do most of the boating on the Chesapeake, and that water can get really nasty in a storm. I've been on lake Rehystown in a storm in a 19 footer. I saw God that day.
Sad

United States

#13 Mar 3, 2009
Hundreds of inexperienced boaters go fishing, and underestimate the seriousness of their lack of experience, and pay for it.

Unfortunately, at this point after 48 hours, life jacket or not, hypothermia is a sad possibility.
Whatever

Vallejo, CA

#14 Mar 3, 2009
-They were wearing life jackets
-They knew the weather would turn but it wasn't expected to turn until later that evening and they expected to be back to dock by late afternoon
-The weather turned on them early
-All four of these guys were athletes and as such have a better shot at survival
-21 foot center console boat that capsized
-after 18 hours in 62 degree water it's most likely that hypothermia has set in and it's likely that the 3 men still missing didn't make it
-Considering all the shady characters in the NFL this is a tragedy since the missing men are nice guys with families
-the ocean spares no one
-those are the facts folks
I Think That

AOL

#15 Mar 3, 2009
CBOW wrote:
<quoted text>
True. I do most of the boating on the Chesapeake, and that water can get really nasty in a storm. I've been on lake Rehystown in a storm in a 19 footer. I saw God that day.
When are the stripers running ?
T Sak

Harrisburg, PA

#16 Mar 3, 2009
21' boat, far out in the gulf, bad weather moving in. Coast guard said seas so rough they had to bring in 46' boat and send out "bigger" boat. I agree, they should have checked the weather. And these guys are college educated, pretty stupid mistake. Easily could have avoided the whole thing.
CBOW

Williamsport, PA

#17 Mar 3, 2009
I Think That wrote:
<quoted text> When are the stripers running ?
I don't fish, but both the Chesapeake and Rehystown have great fishing, so I've heard.
former res

Philadelphia, PA

#18 Mar 3, 2009
Whatever wrote:
-They were wearing life jackets
-They knew the weather would turn but it wasn't expected to turn until later that evening and they expected to be back to dock by late afternoon
-The weather turned on them early
You need a little more margin for error in that size boat, that distance out. Weather forecasting is an "inexact science."

You also need to keep checking for weather updates while you're out - especially if you're that far out.
former res

Philadelphia, PA

#19 Mar 3, 2009
CBOW wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't fish, but both the Chesapeake and Rehystown have great fishing, so I've heard.
Do you swim in the Bay? I know there have been issues.
former res

Philadelphia, PA

#20 Mar 3, 2009
The Coast Guard is calling off the search at 6:30 this evening. They think 40 hours is about the maximum someone can last in that temperature water. Very sad.
CBOW

Williamsport, PA

#21 Mar 3, 2009
former res wrote:
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Do you swim in the Bay? I know there have been issues.
No way. It may be cleaner now, but boaters used to "discharge" into the water from their holding tanks. Yuck. Plus there are sharks and disgusting jelly fish. I have a 45ft sea ray sedan bridge. Mostly just cruising or over nighting in coves with margaritas. I fished alot when I was a kid. Now I just fish another beer out of the cooler.
Whatever

Vallejo, CA

#22 Mar 3, 2009
former res wrote:
<quoted text>
You need a little more margin for error in that size boat, that distance out. Weather forecasting is an "inexact science."
You also need to keep checking for weather updates while you're out - especially if you're that far out.
I agree but Cooper was an experienced fisherman who plied those waters frequently. The reality is that the ocean can change on you quick and whatever overtook them must have been huge since it capsized a supposedly unsinkable boat.
former res

Philadelphia, PA

#23 Mar 3, 2009
CBOW wrote:
<quoted text>
No way. It may be cleaner now, but boaters used to "discharge" into the water from their holding tanks. Yuck. Plus there are sharks and disgusting jelly fish. I have a 45ft sea ray sedan bridge. Mostly just cruising or over nighting in coves with margaritas. I fished alot when I was a kid. Now I just fish another beer out of the cooler.
It's been illegal to discharge for years - but people with older boats were still doing it last time I checked. I grew up with boats but have been away from boating for a while. My wife and I rented a boat on the Bay a few years ago - it was fun. We always went swimming off the boat in LI Sound - that was one of the best things to do - esp when it's hot. Your boat sounds nice and I like you're type of fishing!
former res

Philadelphia, PA

#24 Mar 3, 2009
Whatever wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree but Cooper was an experienced fisherman who plied those waters frequently. The reality is that the ocean can change on you quick and whatever overtook them must have been huge since it capsized a supposedly unsinkable boat.
I agree that we can't control the weather. And the size of the boat is a given. The other variable is distance from land. They shouldn't have gone out quite that far. And we don't know how often he was checking the weather either.

Capsizing and sinking aren't the same thing. The fact that the boat did not sink may have saved the one guy's life.

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