Second-guessers missing mark on Willi...

Second-guessers missing mark on Williams' back injury

There are 43 comments on the ChicagoSports.com story from Aug 16, 2008, titled Second-guessers missing mark on Williams' back injury. In it, ChicagoSports.com reports that:

Anyone who wants to throw a stone at Bears general manager Jerry Angelo for drafting Chris Williams with his first-round pick should know he didn't do anything the majority of his peers would not have done.

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KennesawKirk

Lilburn, GA

#21 Aug 17, 2008
I have a whole Offensive Line worth of stones for Angelo. Starter stones and backup stones INCOMING!
someone with a brain

Alameda, CA

#22 Aug 17, 2008
isn't this the same dude who said we should trade Hester?

lol

how these people get employed by newspapers is beyond me.

almost as bad as that chick at ESPN.com who wrote the 5 page diatribe on how Kobe is better than Michael.
ty welke

Ramona, CA

#23 Aug 17, 2008
It all goes BACK to which players look best at various positions to each organization on draft day. All this BACK-stabbing after the fact speculation and fault-finding is merely.....POSTURING. (forgive the puns)
Bears54

Des Plaines, IL

#24 Aug 17, 2008
Don't write nonsense trying to defend another lousy draft pick by Angelo. He was the weakest of the lineman and his stock had fallen with all teams but the Bad News Bears. Angelo needs to go!
david graham

Hinsdale, IL

#25 Aug 17, 2008
dante culpepper still needs a job
Mat from Indiana

Indianapolis, IN

#26 Aug 17, 2008
I'm sick of Angelo and his decisions such as Benson, Grossman, Williams. The Bears will be lucky not to go 0-16 with the current offense they have. And as far as not being hard on Angelo, the last time I checked he traded Thomas Jones because he didnt get along with Benson. Look where that got us?
JDIZZLE

United States

#27 Aug 17, 2008
I just want to thank Mr Angelo in advance for securing that the Miami Dolphins will not be the worst team in the NFL this upcomming season. Last year was terrible for us but this year it will be just as bad for you Bears fans while Miami has gotten stronger. Once again I want to thank the whole organization.
JDIZZLE

United States

#28 Aug 17, 2008
1bearsfan wrote:
allchifan: joe is not the idiot you are! thanks Joe nice response.The rest of you are pathetic by still believing a rumor,that Pompei has just put to rest.Thanks Dan Pompei for finally clearing up that rumor over Williams.Williams was a great Pick for us.Unfortunately He got hurt,it happens,move on already.Alot of other teams are dealing with injuries as well.A guy is not a bust,just because he gets hurt,that is lame & idiotic.Angelo cant predict a injury any more than anyone else can.You people are suckers who still want to believe a false rumor,about teams not wanting Williams cause of injury.Pompei just showed the research which proves that rumor is not true.Yet some of you still believe it & curse Pompei for putting it to rest.It was not pre-existing & teams didnt take him off their boards cause of injury concerns.So the Rumor is Dead now,so move on! Its really pathetic to hear some of the comments on here.Too many fair weather so-called fans on these post's.Some of you must just have miserable lives,with all the hate talk & gloom & doom.Its a joke to hear someone call them self a fan while they are publicly trashing & backstabbing their team??? I get frustrated too, but i keep it in house.I have been a die hard fan for 37 years! I will never talk trash on my team publicly(internet).I love my Bears & i am always excited to see them play.I will always support them win or lose.Every team has injuries & holes to fill on their team,no one is perfect!! The past is the past,you cant go back.So stop harping on it,beating the dead horse over & over.Move on already grow up.The O-line definitely needs work,it takes time for O-lineman to gel together.But we do have a top Defense & top special teams in the N.F.L. Angelo has done a good job there! but some just focus on the few misses & rake him over the coals forever about it.Quit blaming Lovie on things he doesnt control like personnel.He works with what he is given.Lovie has done quite well for us.We just have too many holes on offense for lovie to make it shine.The Bears will get it corrected,but the past is the past.The salary cap kept Angelo from signing a big free agent lineman.He did draft the 2nd best O-lineman in the draft,unfortunately he got hurt.The Bears will probably sign someone after final cuts.I believe the O-line will find a way to hold their own this year,so Rex can be successful.Take Care Everyone! GOD BLESS!! GO BEAR'S!! YOUR TRUE FANS WILL ALWAYS SUPPORT YOU!!!
Sounds like you want to pick up their sweaty jocks after the game.
Bob in Breckenridge

United States

#29 Aug 18, 2008
Pompei,
Why the hell NOT question Angelo's picking of Williams, given his horrendous track record of drafting early round busts, you idiot?
Sparky

Urbana, IL

#30 Aug 18, 2008
Joe,

Your enthusiasm is appreciated, but you lose credibility with outlandish statements.
Tommie Harris is a pro-bowler, but not near the best of the bunch. Allen, Haynesworth, Freeney, and Kevin Williams come to mind ahead of Harris. Vasher and Tillman are obviously very good, but the Colts, Cowboys and Chargers have cornerback duos better than the Bears, and are all drafted by their current teams. You also seem to be one of only two supporters of Angelo. I bet anybody else here could identify GMs they wish the Bears had. Belichick and Shanahan basically run their teams' front offices, and Polian is a personnel genius.

Obviously I'm in the anti-Angelo camp. I understand that Williams was a need pick, but there was a guard from VT, or Cherulius (sp?) who would have been better.
About the only thing I agree on is Forte. That young man is ready to play.

“I looked, and behold,”

Since: Aug 08

Location hidden

#31 Aug 18, 2008
Hey, if we were just talking about one player, i.e. Williams, and one draft this clown might have a point. I don't know if he noticed, but Angelo has been terrible during the draft, year in and year out.
Mac

Cedar Crest, NM

#32 Aug 18, 2008
Ok then trade the 14th overall pick and select two lower round OL that can help out! There is no excuse for knowingly selecting a defective OL, especially knowing how badly the Bears O line sucked. The pick could have been used to sweeten a deal for Faneca or someone like him. Geez, this will go down as the reason the Bears went 3-13 this season!
REM

Canton, IL

#33 Aug 18, 2008
Tom wrote:
Dan
Its seems like you are trying to defend Angelo by saying, "Sure he whiffed on a multi-million-dollar bet, but 2/3 of the other teams looking for linemen also thought this guy was healthy enough".
This was a pick Angelo absolutely, positively couldn't miss on for the Bears to have a chance this season. He took a player that a third of GMs/staff thought was a medical risk. Even with the data you present here, I think that is inexcusable.
I said at the time, and still feel the Bears should've traded up 2 spots and taken Clady from Boise State. I'd rather give up the 4th round pick it would've taken to do that than take a left tackle described as "soft" and "a medical risk".
Angelo should have someone else make all the picks on offense for him. He shouldn't even be allowed in the room. Benson, Colombo, Williams, Grossman, etc. Yuck.
Well said and right on the money...failing on this pick was not an option, yet he goes with the high risk anyway.
Damani

Schaumburg, IL

#34 Aug 18, 2008
Come on people, if any of you follow college football you would know that everyone of these picks that did not work out had great collegiate careers. Benson broke the all time rushing record, Rex was Heisman Trophy runner up as a sophmore, and Williams faced and shut down every defensive end in the top conference in the country, Marc Colombo was 1st team All American as well. Draft picks are always a gamble.
Oh yeah Angelo did draft Urlacher, Tommie Harris, Mike Brown, Devin Hester, Charles Tillman, Nathan Vasher, Lance Briggs, Gregg Olsen, and looks like Matt Forte, Marcus Harrison, Earl Bennett are keepers as well. All draft picks are high risk!!!!
Damani

Schaumburg, IL

#35 Aug 18, 2008
Oh yeah I forgot to mention that Angelo and his so called staff of boneheads took over a team(coached by Dick Jauron) that was one of the worst in the NFL, put together a dominant defense and won the NFC North 3 times out of the last 5 years(add a Super Bowl appearance in there also people)!!!
You win some, you lose some, and Angelo/Lovie have won more than they has lost!!! Until the losses surpass the wins, I say let them get things back on track!!!
gline

Ida Grove, IA

#36 Aug 18, 2008
Come on, just about every one of our draft picks this year had injuries during their collegeg days!! Angelo thinks way too much of himself. Dan, the coaching has gone soft, there is no discipline on this team. Look at last years offensive line, penalty after penalty, and again this year. Training camps are a joke anymore. Most high payed spoiled brats fake a minopr injury and sit out the camp, crying it is too hard.

“I looked, and behold,”

Since: Aug 08

Location hidden

#37 Aug 18, 2008
Damani wrote:
Come on people, if any of you follow college football you would know that everyone of these picks that did not work out had great collegiate careers. Benson broke the all time rushing record, Rex was Heisman Trophy runner up as a sophmore, and Williams faced and shut down every defensive end in the top conference in the country, Marc Colombo was 1st team All American as well. Draft picks are always a gamble.
Oh yeah Angelo did draft Urlacher, Tommie Harris, Mike Brown, Devin Hester, Charles Tillman, Nathan Vasher, Lance Briggs, Gregg Olsen, and looks like Matt Forte, Marcus Harrison, Earl Bennett are keepers as well. All draft picks are high risk!!!!
Um, I am sure Angelo drafted some of those guys, but the Bears own website days that Angelo was handed the reins of the Chicago Bears football operations on June 12, 2001. Urlacher came out in the 2000 draft. If memory serves me correctly so did Brown.

Anyway, I think Angelo sucks donkey.
pompei and his veneers

AOL

#38 Aug 18, 2008
What a crock of huey Pompei. The Bears are/were "Notoriously" thin at the"O-Line" and intended "FULLY" to draft a guy to START! Noe because they picked a "LAME", broken-down linemen when 1/2 the free-world knew he had ISSUES, should be placed DIRECTLY on Angelo. Geez usually I just read the articles w/o prejudice, but David Haugh and Pompei are starting to irritate me.
Angelo had his pick of SEVERAL linemen, HE"S the 1- who ignored reports and drafted this mope. Now we have to wait an "ENTIRE" him for him? I hope he doesn't blow-up to 400lbs. with all that FREE-MONEY he's gonna be getting for sitting on his "RUMP" this season.
lee

New York, NY

#39 Aug 18, 2008
Sublime1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Um, I am sure Angelo drafted some of those guys, but the Bears own website days that Angelo was handed the reins of the Chicago Bears football operations on June 12, 2001. Urlacher came out in the 2000 draft. If memory serves me correctly so did Brown.
Anyway, I think Angelo sucks donkey.
- YES! you're correct, sir..and don't forget it was Angelo to forget "checking the box" so we lost Warrick Holdman without any compensation. I have NEVER expected Angelo to be a miracle worker, but he has WAY poor track record. If there's anyone to care to check the facts, go to " http://sports.espn.go.com/nfldraft/draft/trac... ; and see his work (2002~2007).
Glas

United States

#40 Aug 18, 2008
Talked to 13 teams, right? TWO teams took the guy off the chart completely. TWO more dropped him down. That's 4 out of 13! That is too much of a risk for a GM with a LONG history of making bad picks in rounds 1-3, and an even worse history of taking offensive players, to make! Benson, even though he just signed Thomas Jones a year earlier. Stupid. I don't have time to go over ALL the mistakes this so-called GM has made. And the fact that you, Mr. Pompei, are trying to help cover-up this bull crap is a huge joke also! How much you want to bet that Mr. Williams doesn't play this year and we hear some 'excuse' why? Like I've stated many times, if the Bears go 6-10 or worse, Jerry Angelo should be fired. Period. Look at this team. Injuries are coming, so I don't want to hear any 'excuses' to save this man's job. Either the Bears go 7-9 or better, or Jerry Angelo should be fired. And Mr. Pompei, you can go back to kissing up to the Bears management after this poor excuse article.

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