Ravens, Flacco's agent to discuss deal

Ravens, Flacco's agent to discuss deal

There are 24 comments on the Baltimore Sun story from Jul 15, 2008, titled Ravens, Flacco's agent to discuss deal. In it, Baltimore Sun reports that:

The Ravens will meet with the agent for first-round quarterback Joe Flacco today and tomorrow as the sides try to reach a deal before training camp begins next Tuesday.

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Bob

Baltimore, MD

#1 Jul 15, 2008
I still say let Joe Flacco sit a year....don't ruin him like the Ravens did K.Boller by throwing him in his first year..
Joe Mess East BMore

Columbia, MD

#2 Jul 15, 2008
Let's get him in here...

Since: Jun 08

Ellicott City, Maryland

#3 Jul 15, 2008
For all I care, Joe Flacco can go back to Delaware. The D-1AA wonder boy shouldn't have been a 1st round pick to begin with so if there is any kind of hold out it will justify me booing him.
Revmagus

Baltimore, MD

#4 Jul 15, 2008
AngryDragon84 wrote:
For all I care, Joe Flacco can go back to Delaware. The D-1AA wonder boy shouldn't have been a 1st round pick to begin with so if there is any kind of hold out it will justify me booing him.
It's because of morons like you that this town has the reputation for chewing up quarterbacks. Even the bench warmer on Flacco's D-1AA as more potential then you ever had.

Since: Jun 08

Ellicott City, Maryland

#5 Jul 15, 2008
Revmagus wrote:
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It's because of morons like you that this town has the reputation for chewing up quarterbacks. Even the bench warmer on Flacco's D-1AA as more potential then you ever had.
This town has a reputation for chewing up QBs b/c we haven't had a good one in a decade. We are also the only team to ever release a Superbowl winning QB for the following season (which I agreed with at the time).

You're absolutely right, he does have more potential than me and so does his bench warmer. Flacco is 6'6, 230lbs. I am 5'7, 160lbs and my hands are barely big enough to throw a splitter. So you're damn right he has more potential. Was that supposed to be an insult?

For the record, I have always supported Boller and I have never booed a QB at a game. However, its obvious that Boller was a mistake yet for some reason the Ravens still thought that the proper remedy was to draft another QB who is very similar in terms of skill set physical ability. The nail in the coffin was that Flacco played junior varsity college and anyone who doesn't think that is important is in complete denial.

Everyone always talks about how amazing Flacco's athletic abilities are (along with Smiths) yet they forget that Boller outperformed both of them in every combine activity. It's such a double standard.
John

Ruffs Dale, PA

#6 Jul 15, 2008
Hey have you seen Big Joe play ! I have and all I can say is WOW.He will be better than Big Ben hand down ! He will be the strarter in 2010 and he will play some in 2009 !
Archie

United States

#7 Jul 15, 2008
I said in June why has this process taken so long. If things don't go right this could be a hugh distraction.
GHT

Portland, OR

#8 Jul 15, 2008
with Boller and Smith having both started, the Ravens are in a position to play hardball with Flacco if his agent gets cute (something he could never be, have you seen him?). Brett's out, no chance there.
Revmagus

Baltimore, MD

#9 Jul 15, 2008
AngryDragon84 wrote:
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Was that supposed to be an insult?
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No, it wasn't an insult, it was the truth. You are the perfect example of the armchair half-wit that plagues these boards day in and out. Scouting reports from all over the net claimed that Flacco had the potential to be a good NFL QB. It was only during the scouting combine that everyone became impressed with Flacco's intelligence and accuracy, this is what brought him into consideration for 1st round. So, once Ryan was off the board, Flacco became the target. Face it, the only reason you consider booing Flacco is that he made good, you critisize because he has something you never had; a future.
Jacob

East Hampton, NY

#10 Jul 15, 2008
Bob wrote:
I still say let Joe Flacco sit a year....don't ruin him like the Ravens did K.Boller by throwing him in his first year..
Bob, the only thing starting rookies right away does is, in most cases, causes the team to lose more than if the rookie were to start a year later.

It is absolutely impossible "to ruin" a QB by having him start as a rookie. Boller would have failed if he had sat for three years and then started in year 4.

I know others will attack this metaphor, but it works: if you want to learn a foreign language and enter a total immersion program, you don't never learn the language because it was too much for you to handle. You'll make more mistakes than if you learned basic principles first before getting totally immersed. Similarly, you don't ruin a QB b/c he started as rookie.

If anything, he'll become further along in his development quicker. The end result will be that his TD-to-INT ration may be slightly closer than if didn't start his rookie year.
GHT

Portland, OR

#11 Jul 15, 2008
Jacob wrote:
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Bob, the only thing starting rookies right away does is, in most cases, causes the team to lose more than if the rookie were to start a year later.
It is absolutely impossible "to ruin" a QB by having him start as a rookie. Boller would have failed if he had sat for three years and then started in year 4.
I know others will attack this metaphor, but it works: if you want to learn a foreign language and enter a total immersion program, you don't never learn the language because it was too much for you to handle. You'll make more mistakes than if you learned basic principles first before getting totally immersed. Similarly, you don't ruin a QB b/c he started as rookie.
If anything, he'll become further along in his development quicker. The end result will be that his TD-to-INT ration may be slightly closer than if didn't start his rookie year.
I agree with you. Starting Flacco now means only one thing; the Ravens are content to rebuild and officially forgo the Ray Lewis era.
Jim from Dundalk

Finksburg, MD

#12 Jul 15, 2008
Looks like we will forgo the Lewis anyway , nothing was done to shore up the O-line with a veteran or two , this means they are content to let it mature on its own and at its own pace , this could actually take another year or two before they are a force,,,,,,,,,,,,,it will happen just in time for Joe Cool , but tool late for MR. Lewis,,,,,,,,,,
kros

Schuylkill Haven, PA

#13 Jul 15, 2008
To his dying day Ozzie will regret caving in to Billick and picking Boller. He wasn't worth a 1st round pick, much less TWO. Strong arm but no touch or accuracy,and after 5 l_o_n_g years still has no football smarts. Couldn't hit the bed of a moving pickup if his life depended on it -- high, low, behind, or too far in front. Still hasn't learned to look off receivers or read defenses. Dilfer, Grbac, Redman, Anderson, and now Troy and Joe were (or will be) better than Boller ever could be. Brad Roach has more upside. At this point I just want Boller gone. I don't care where or for how much. Gone. Yesterday.
Baltimore is not north

Raleigh, NC

#14 Jul 15, 2008
Any chance for division realignment? Baltimore should not be in the North. The North should be Buffalo, New York, New England, Cleveland and Pittsburgh. Baltimore should be in the East or South as they are south of all these teams and south of Indy. Give the Ravens and Titans the rivalry they were building on before the new old Browns came back. Baltimore is not the north.
Eric

Reynoldsburg, OH

#15 Jul 15, 2008
Revmagus wrote:
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No, it wasn't an insult, it was the truth. You are the perfect example of the armchair half-wit that plagues these boards day in and out. Scouting reports from all over the net claimed that Flacco had the potential to be a good NFL QB. It was only during the scouting combine that everyone became impressed with Flacco's intelligence and accuracy, this is what brought him into consideration for 1st round. So, once Ryan was off the board, Flacco became the target. Face it, the only reason you consider booing Flacco is that he made good, you critisize because he has something you never had; a future.
Because scouting reports are never wrong....Boller, or better yet, Ryan Leaf, anyone? Also it doesn't look so much Like J. Russell is going to be tearing it up either.

Since: Jul 08

Owings Mills, MD

#16 Jul 15, 2008
Baltimore is not north wrote:
Any chance for division realignment? Baltimore should not be in the North. The North should be Buffalo, New York, New England, Cleveland and Pittsburgh. Baltimore should be in the East or South as they are south of all these teams and south of Indy. Give the Ravens and Titans the rivalry they were building on before the new old Browns came back. Baltimore is not the north.
We have a football team in Baltimore that plays in the NFL, and they all ready have a superbowl trophy.

Aren't there bigger issues to be concerned with regarding the Ravens then weather or not Baltimore is an ideal location for a "north" team. Most fans are here are happy to have A team. And really, the furthest they travel within their division is Cincinnati. It's not exactly like they play in the AFC or NFC West
HeWhoCannotBeNam ed

Berlin, Germany

#17 Jul 16, 2008
Just get your Bert-andErnie mug in here, you're lucky being drafted that high. Tween Suggs and this rookie its no contest who is making more off an imbecile of himself. Geezussssss!

Since: Jun 08

Ellicott City, Maryland

#18 Jul 16, 2008
Revmagus wrote:
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No, it wasn't an insult, it was the truth. You are the perfect example of the armchair half-wit that plagues these boards day in and out. Scouting reports from all over the net claimed that Flacco had the potential to be a good NFL QB. It was only during the scouting combine that everyone became impressed with Flacco's intelligence and accuracy, this is what brought him into consideration for 1st round. So, once Ryan was off the board, Flacco became the target. Face it, the only reason you consider booing Flacco is that he made good, you critisize because he has something you never had; a future.
Actually I very rarely post here. Every QB in the NFL has the potential to be good, that's why they are in the NFL. So to suggest that Flacco is special b/c some scouts said that doesn't really mean a thing. Scouts are wrong. Experts are wrong. A lot of scouts doubted that Joe Montana would be a good QB b/c of his perceived lack of arm strength. Another good example of hos the experts aren't always right was when Rollingstone said that Led Zepplin would never amount to anything. I stop paying attention to the experts who fall for the hype so that they can fill their columns with BS and instead I look at the obvious. The obvious is that Flacco couldn't cut it at Pitt, so he transferred to a D-1AA school where he had one average year and one good year. He also had big stats in a shotgun, spread offense against D-1AA competition. He has poor footwork, has trouble with the center exchange, and got sacked a lot against the likes of Towson and JMU.

People think that Flacco will be good b/c he's tall and has a big arm. Those are nice intangibles and all but they don't guarantee success. I bet that if the Steelers or Browns invested a 1st round draft pick on a D-1AA QB then you and a lot of other Flacco lovers would make fun of them.

As far as me being jealous of Flacco, you're damn right I'm jealous. I wish I could be a millionaire before I was 25 and I wish I played professional sports. That said, I'm pretty content with the hand I was dealt. I'm 24 years old and I'm working on a subcontract with NASA. In other words, my future isn't exactly something I lose sleep over, but I flattered that you are so concerned.

Since: Jun 08

Ellicott City, Maryland

#19 Jul 16, 2008
Jacob wrote:
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Bob, the only thing starting rookies right away does is, in most cases, causes the team to lose more than if the rookie were to start a year later.
It is absolutely impossible "to ruin" a QB by having him start as a rookie. Boller would have failed if he had sat for three years and then started in year 4.
I know others will attack this metaphor, but it works: if you want to learn a foreign language and enter a total immersion program, you don't never learn the language because it was too much for you to handle. You'll make more mistakes than if you learned basic principles first before getting totally immersed. Similarly, you don't ruin a QB b/c he started as rookie.
If anything, he'll become further along in his development quicker. The end result will be that his TD-to-INT ration may be slightly closer than if didn't start his rookie year.
The Ravens have a veteran team and a rookie QB from D-1AA has no place starting this season. Rookies hardy ever perform well, esp. on a consistent basis. Matt Ryan starting this season for the Falcons is acceptable since the team will be horrible regardless. In contrast, the Ravens have a lot of good players and have the potential to have a good season. They shouldn't start Flacco for the sake of starting him. Coming from junior varsity at Delaware he needs to ride the pine to ease his transition since his learning curve will be a lot steeper.

Since: Jun 08

Ellicott City, Maryland

#20 Jul 16, 2008
kros wrote:
To his dying day Ozzie will regret caving in to Billick and picking Boller. He wasn't worth a 1st round pick, much less TWO. Strong arm but no touch or accuracy,and after 5 l_o_n_g years still has no football smarts. Couldn't hit the bed of a moving pickup if his life depended on it -- high, low, behind, or too far in front. Still hasn't learned to look off receivers or read defenses. Dilfer, Grbac, Redman, Anderson, and now Troy and Joe were (or will be) better than Boller ever could be. Brad Roach has more upside. At this point I just want Boller gone. I don't care where or for how much. Gone. Yesterday.
Some of you make it so easy. You all act like Boller is the worst QB in the NFL and is completely incapable of doing anything, which is a huge exaggeration.

-Redman was out of the NFL for a few years after 2003.
-Grbac didn't have leadership abilities and quit on the team after a year.
-How many games did Dilfer start after winning the Superbowl?
-Stop the cliche of loving Troy Smith b.c he is the backup QB. He hasn't done anything in the NFL to indicate that he is a legit starting QB.
-Anderson would never succeed on a team that didn't have a great o-line, which the Browns had last year. He has absolutely no mobility and also has poor accuracy. If you don't believe me, look at his completion percentage last year. Brady Quinn will prob be the starter by week 8.

BTW, that's a smart philosophy you have. You know, to get Boller out no matter what. Smart thinking bud. Going into the season with a total of 2 NFL starts by the entire QB depth chart is the recipe for success. Putting the fate of the franchise in a D-1AA player isn't enough, so lets just cut Boller now and cross our fingers. Good thinking!

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