Is Ponder set up for instant success?

Jul 6, 2011 Full story: ESPN 77

Does Christian Ponder have the kind of team around him to succeed the way Mark Sanchez did with the Jets in his rookie year? That was the question proposed to me.

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NFLfarts

United States

#64 Jul 14, 2011
Del Rio nailed it, this lockout sucks for rookie QB's.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d820c5e0...

"In the short term, is it impacted? Absolutely it’s impacted. I mean, the guy who has the most to learn, the most to do, is the quarterback. Just think about going through the progress of the play, getting the play called at the line of scrimmage, making the adjustments ... making sure everyone is lined up properly, making a ‘check’ if there’s another ‘check’ that goes with the play. It’s very complex at our level and a lot goes into it. That’s for every position. But, for the quarterback it is so much more.

"I think that’s an awful lot to ask a young man to come in a couple of weeks and get it all and have it down pat. I think it takes a little time. Certainly not having an offseason sets that process back, but we’re no different than a lot of teams. We understand that."

"Del Rio said that while Gabbert does have a playbook, the amount that can be learned is limited to basic concepts without the chance to get on-field repetitions and make adjustments."

Related to Ponder, I just dont see him do well his first season...so...will Frasier throw him under the bus? I would not think so if he has a clue so will it be Webb??? What is the mind set? Bring in a QB to HELP DEVELOPE Ponder? Or bring a vet in with an attitude of "I'm the man here now."

Most of these older F/A Qb's seem to think they still have enough to be a starter for 3 maybe 4 years....with that attitude, do you think they would even help Ponder? Leave him to figure it out on his own?

A shit load of questions.
ezg357

Madera, CA

#65 Jul 14, 2011
I am sure Ponder isnt going to have a easy time But it wasnt like he was out there by his self practicing, He was at Camp Weinke Going over the play book with someone explaining it to him like a coach would. So he does have his foot in the door He wont be totally raw I think anyone of the rookies that has ever started felt like Del Rio said But yet guys like Mark Sanchez was thrown in & did pretty good Sanchez did have a full camp where as Ponder mite not but over all I think the Vikes coaches can have Ponder start. I say why bring in a Vet QB to take up CAP Room the Vikes Dont have Use that money to bring in someone for the offensive line & a CB for the defense . Go Vikings
Campfarts

United States

#66 Jul 15, 2011
ezg357 wrote:
I am sure Ponder isnt going to have a easy time But it wasnt like he was out there by his self practicing, He was at Camp Weinke Going over the play book with someone explaining it to him like a coach would. So he does have his foot in the door He wont be totally raw I think anyone of the rookies that has ever started felt like Del Rio said But yet guys like Mark Sanchez was thrown in & did pretty good Sanchez did have a full camp where as Ponder mite not but over all I think the Vikes coaches can have Ponder start. I say why bring in a Vet QB to take up CAP Room the Vikes Dont have Use that money to bring in someone for the offensive line & a CB for the defense . Go Vikings
True but Mark Sanchez did have an full off season with his team coaches and entire lineup though. I'm sure Ponder as well as the other rookie QB's who attended wannabe QB coach Chris Weinke's camp learned a small portion of the verbiage and basic concepts. But that in its self is comical since Weinke couldnt cut it in the NFL.

Titans in the same boat as Vikes with Collins retired, Cardinals need a QB badly, Seahags need a QB if they let Hasselbeck walk ...it should be interesting to see who does what.

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#67 Jul 15, 2011
Campfarts wrote:
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True but Mark Sanchez did have an full off season with his team coaches and entire lineup though. I'm sure Ponder as well as the other rookie QB's who attended wannabe QB coach Chris Weinke's camp learned a small portion of the verbiage and basic concepts. But that in its self is comical since Weinke couldnt cut it in the NFL.
Titans in the same boat as Vikes with Collins retired, Cardinals need a QB badly, Seahags need a QB if they let Hasselbeck walk ...it should be interesting to see who does what.
Our computers are going to burn up when FA starts.
ezg357

Madera, CA

#68 Jul 15, 2011
Campfarts wrote:
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True but Mark Sanchez did have an full off season with his team coaches and entire lineup though. I'm sure Ponder as well as the other rookie QB's who attended wannabe QB coach Chris Weinke's camp learned a small portion of the verbiage and basic concepts. But that in its self is comical since Weinke couldnt cut it in the NFL.
Titans in the same boat as Vikes with Collins retired, Cardinals need a QB badly, Seahags need a QB if they let Hasselbeck walk ...it should be interesting to see who does what.
lol true Weinke is a wannabe QB but every little bite does help Here is something Weinke did to help Ponder>> Ponder said the work with Weinke "really helped." He got in weight room work, they went over elements of the Vikings playbook Ponder was given in April during the brief time the lockout was lifted and Weinke also fine-tuned some of Ponder's throwing mechanics.

"I kind of had developed a little loop in my throw where I was dropping the ball a little bit and dropped my release point as well," Ponder said. "We did a lot of drills to work on that. I was throwing the ball well already, but it's little things like that that help out. Especially at the NFL level. Dropping the ball too low can result in a fumble and can throw your timing off. We fixed that and it was good."
ezg357

Madera, CA

#69 Jul 15, 2011
Thats every little bit helps
Laughing Bear Fan

Littleton, CO

#70 Jul 15, 2011
Now that the state is back to work the legislature can get down to real business, loke telling the Queens to F.O. on a new stadium tax
ezg357

Madera, CA

#71 Jul 15, 2011
Laughing Bear Fan wrote:
Now that the state is back to work the legislature can get down to real business, loke telling the Queens to F.O. on a new stadium tax
I guess the republicans didnt get to keep the checks of the hard working people on SSI & tell them to F.O. so its time to turn to the Vikes stadium & say F.O. lol Go Vikings
Coach Leslie Frazier

Spring Hill, FL

#72 Jul 17, 2011
A neighbor down the street told other Viking fans in the area that she would crawl over one mile of sharp broken glass on her hands and knees just to hear Christian Ponder fart over a short wave radio.
clem

Hamilton, Canada

#73 Jul 17, 2011
Coach Leslie Frazier wrote:
A neighbor down the street told other Viking fans in the area that she would crawl over one mile of sharp broken glass on her hands and knees just to hear Christian Ponder fart over a short wave radio.
Sounds alot like a post about Big Ben...nice try
Burnfarts

United States

#74 Jul 18, 2011
Gonzo wrote:
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Our computers are going to burn up when FA starts.
Hopefully by this week!
Fixedfarts

United States

#75 Jul 18, 2011
ezg357 wrote:
<quoted text>lol true Weinke is a wannabe QB but every little bite does help Here is something Weinke did to help Ponder>> Ponder said the work with Weinke "really helped." He got in weight room work, they went over elements of the Vikings playbook Ponder was given in April during the brief time the lockout was lifted and Weinke also fine-tuned some of Ponder's throwing mechanics.
"I kind of had developed a little loop in my throw where I was dropping the ball a little bit and dropped my release point as well," Ponder said. "We did a lot of drills to work on that. I was throwing the ball well already, but it's little things like that that help out. Especially at the NFL level. Dropping the ball too low can result in a fumble and can throw your timing off. We fixed that and it was good."
I'm sure he learned quite a few basic mechanics from Weinke, hopefully more than Weinke ever learned. But that does not translate into an instant All Pro. He will have plenty more to learn throughout his first season...if he is named the starter.
ezg357

Madera, CA

#76 Jul 18, 2011
Fixedfarts wrote:
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I'm sure he learned quite a few basic mechanics from Weinke, hopefully more than Weinke ever learned. But that does not translate into an instant All Pro. He will have plenty more to learn throughout his first season...if he is named the starter.
The key is Ponder did pick up a few good tips from Weinke & Yes for sure Ponder has a lot more to learn as any starting rookie would. Ponder is far from being called a all pro he hasnt played a down yet There are many starters that you cant call all Pro. Smith of the 49ers a starter but yet I wouldnt call him a all Pro player But he does start. All Ponder needs to do his first year is manage the game Like Sanchez Ponder doesnt need to be a all pro. Go Vikings
Chezfarts

United States

#77 Jul 18, 2011
No more comparisons to the Jets!
ezg357

Madera, CA

#78 Jul 18, 2011
Chezfarts wrote:
No more comparisons to the Jets!
Its only a example of a rookie QB (Sanchez) that started & managed the game & didnt have to be a all pro to do it Hows that for you lol Go Vikings
Howfarts

United States

#79 Jul 19, 2011
ezg357 wrote:
<quoted text> Hows that for you lol Go Vikings
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