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Mich. boy, 12, killed by gun being cleaned by dad

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BAN GUNS

Minneapolis, MN

#72 Mar 6, 2009
Nancy Pal Osi wrote:
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I'm sure Obama won't ban all guns. I don't think he objects to hunting guns.
"you don't THINK"
T Sak

Harrisburg, PA

#74 Mar 6, 2009
former res wrote:
How do you forget that a gun has a round in it? Everytime I pick up my gun, I check it.
First rule of guns is to assume every gun is loaded until proven otherwise.
Agreed. It really amazes me these things still happen. Or that guns are left out around young kids,, loaded.
Sarah D

Minneapolis, MN

#75 Mar 6, 2009
And how many kids are killed by parents who forget that they left the kid in the car and the child dies of heat stroke or hypothermia? When those tragedies happen does anyone suggest that cars be banned? Of course not.

This tragedy happened because the dad forgot two major points of gun safety:

1. ALWAYS check your gun to make sure it isn't loaded before cleaning it.

2. NEVER point a gun at someone else (unless you intend to shoot them).
T Sak

Harrisburg, PA

#76 Mar 6, 2009
Sarah D wrote:
And how many kids are killed by parents who forget that they left the kid in the car and the child dies of heat stroke or hypothermia? When those tragedies happen does anyone suggest that cars be banned? Of course not.
This tragedy happened because the dad forgot two major points of gun safety:
1. ALWAYS check your gun to make sure it isn't loaded before cleaning it.
2. NEVER point a gun at someone else (unless you intend to shoot them).
Good point. As a respected scholar once said. Stupid is what stupid does.
Forest Gump

Torrington, CT

#77 Mar 6, 2009
T Sak wrote:
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Good point. As a respected scholar once said. Stupid is what stupid does.
my mama says thaaatt!
DAST

Saint Paul, MN

#78 Mar 6, 2009
Even locked away and unloaded, I do not want a gun in the house. Young kids are just too smart for their own good, and will find the key, find the ammo, figure out how to load the gun. Even if told not to touch mommy's gun a bazillion times, who could resist it? Guns, especially handguns, are way neat, like matches, pills, perfume, liquor and the interior of anything electronic.

How many parents have sprung across the room to pull their toddler off of the wheeled swivel chair he has pulled up to the kitchen counter and climbed up on the arm of in order to reach the sharp knives? Kids do stuff like that.

I can get some guns later on, take the kid to the range and poke some holes in paper.
Brad

Oroville, CA

#79 Mar 6, 2009
DAST wrote:
Even locked away and unloaded, I do not want a gun in the house. Young kids are just too smart for their own good, and will find the key, find the ammo, figure out how to load the gun. Even if told not to touch mommy's gun a bazillion times, who could resist it? Guns, especially handguns, are way neat, like matches, pills, perfume, liquor and the interior of anything electronic.
How many parents have sprung across the room to pull their toddler off of the wheeled swivel chair he has pulled up to the kitchen counter and climbed up on the arm of in order to reach the sharp knives? Kids do stuff like that.
I can get some guns later on, take the kid to the range and poke some holes in paper.
It is always a good idea to do what you feel comfortable with.
My parents have owned guns all my life, they taught me how to use one at an early age. I have never felt the temtation to Check them out, or play with them. It must have been something they said. I do, however, know of a girl who was killed by checking out her father's gun.
If you are a parent, make sure you know what you need to do to keep your child safe. Some kid will be temted, some will not. But the best way to help the situation is to tell them, educate them on Gun ownership and responcabilities, because even if you do not keep guns in your house, thier friend's parents may.
Robot

United States

#80 Mar 6, 2009
JTY wrote:
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To get to this story you had to click on the national section and then look in the AP press news wire section.
P.S. Are you actually in CA?
Unfortunately, yes, I'm still in CA.
Brad

Oroville, CA

#81 Mar 6, 2009
pardon my spellin.
Robot

United States

#82 Mar 6, 2009
Project 5 wrote:
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Right, you must read them on nra.org
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What person?
And you gun nuts need to take a sedative and relax. Nobody wants to take your guns.
If you don't think there's a move to ban and confiscate guns, you're either a fool or a liar. I'm betting both.
So Sad

El Paso, TX

#83 Mar 6, 2009
Jeez wrote:
Aren't you supposed to check the gun for bullets before you clean it??? I know it said, he forgot there was a round in it.. I've heard this same storyline, time and time again over many years.. Jeepers.. Checking for bullets should be the very first thing you would do!!! Seems like a pure common sense thing to do..:(
Yes, except you forget that the gun was in the hands of a kid. Proof that kids shouldnt own guns.

Since: Sep 08

Lakeville, MN

#84 Mar 6, 2009
Robot wrote:
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If you don't think there's a move to ban and confiscate guns, you're either a fool or a liar. I'm betting both.
and im betting you suffer from right wing paranoia

“Just using common sense”

Since: May 08

Oroville

#85 Mar 6, 2009
So Sad wrote:
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Yes, except you forget that the gun was in the hands of a kid. Proof that kids shouldnt own guns.
Actually the article states that the dad had it in his hands. He was cleaning it.
Bwaaa O Well

Waterbury, CT

#86 Mar 6, 2009
Jeez wrote:
Aren't you supposed to check the gun for bullets before you clean it??? I know it said, he forgot there was a round in it.. I've heard this same storyline, time and time again over many years.. Jeepers.. Checking for bullets should be the very first thing you would do!!! Seems like a pure common sense thing to do..:(
Its the GOLDEN RULE when Handling any firearm, ALWAYS TREAT IT AS IF IT WERE LOADED!!! The Guy was just an imbecile that was neglectfull in practicing this 1 very important step.
Now he pays the ultimate price.
John

Long Lake, MN

#87 Mar 6, 2009
I check for rounds in the magazine and the chamber and then dry fire one into a safe direction, NOT at a kid or person for Christ's sake.

I suspect the guy is somehow mentally impared from drugs or booze when cleaning the gun.
Cheaper and safer

Minneapolis, MN

#88 Mar 6, 2009
Brad wrote:
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How can we statisfy how many times a burgler decided not to rob someone for fear of guns? How can we add up the number of times a house with an NRA sticker on the window was passed up as an easy target to steal from? Are there stats for this? NO. Just common sense. When we take away the weapons from the good guy, what is to stop the bad guy?
My burglar alarm permit sticker does this also. My shotgun is for other purposes.
blue

Rochester, MN

#89 Mar 6, 2009
Brad wrote:
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It is always a good idea to do what you feel comfortable with.
My parents have owned guns all my life, they taught me how to use one at an early age. I have never felt the temtation to Check them out, or play with them. It must have been something they said. I do, however, know of a girl who was killed by checking out her father's gun.
If you are a parent, make sure you know what you need to do to keep your child safe. Some kid will be temted, some will not. But the best way to help the situation is to tell them, educate them on Gun ownership and responcabilities, because even if you do not keep guns in your house, thier friend's parents may.
My wife was raised in a house with guns on unlocked racks. The children were trained from an early age not to touch them, and they didn't. They were also trained at an appropriate age how to use them. Not a single problem ever happened. She's a good shot, too.
blue

Rochester, MN

#90 Mar 6, 2009
So Sad wrote:
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Yes, except you forget that the gun was in the hands of a kid. Proof that kids shouldnt own guns.
In this case, it was the parent holding the gun.
Robot Limbaugh listener

Minneapolis, MN

#91 Mar 6, 2009
Robot wrote:
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If you don't think there's a move to ban and confiscate guns, you're either a fool or a liar. I'm betting both.
There are people out there who want to protest soldier funerals, ban abortion, outlaw any religion but theirs, ban guns, make you eat your veggies. intelligent people shun fanatics and maintain the middle ground. Lose your fear. I own guns, and vote democrat. I will NOT give my rights away. Even my right to habeas corpus, or my right to wire tapping without warrant. Oh wait, Bush took those already. The republicans want to take our guns!!!!
blue

Rochester, MN

#92 Mar 6, 2009
oxboro wrote:
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and im betting you suffer from right wing paranoia
No, there are plenty of politicians trying to restrict gun ownership. They just aren't getting a lot of traction lately.

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