Trial starts in battle between NFL, W...

Trial starts in battle between NFL, Williamses

There are 48 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Mar 8, 2010, titled Trial starts in battle between NFL, Williamses. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

The long-running legal dispute between the NFL and a pair of Minnesota Vikings is finally going to trial.

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Russ

Jacksonville, FL

#41 Mar 10, 2010
One last point, from what I have read, the MN state law that affects this case, says (parphrasing), that an employee in the state of MN, cannot be suspended or fired from their job, by taking a legal substance. It's an employee protection clause.

So, what happens, if there is a supplement that is legal, and contains a banned substance by the NFL/NFLPA/CBA and is labeled on the product. The player takes the supplement, tests positive, but cannot be suspended due to the MN state employment law. That is what would/could happen.
Bullfarts

Houston, TX

#42 Mar 10, 2010
And roids taste good on toast

“Lying scumbags need not apply”

Since: Jan 08

Yorktown, VA

#43 Mar 10, 2010
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StarCaps is out of buisiness, and I think they are already suing. Where is the player responsibility in this case? There is a list of APPROVED substances, the players risk testing positive for a banned substance if they take supplements, not on the APPROVED list. The players in question, took supplements not on the APPROVED list, therefore they should take responsibility for taking a banned substance (knowing it or not knowing it). IF they take a diuretic from the APPROVED list, they are not in this situation? They are the ones that are pleading ignornace.
So there is an approved list and a banned list and Starcaps was on neither even though the NFL knew it contained a banned substance. Many substances are not on either list. Are meat and potatoes on the approved list? I hope so because obviously Pat and Kevin over indulge on both.

Why couldn't the NFL put Starcaps on the banned list back in 2006 when they discovered it contained bumetanide? That is part of what is being contended a the trial, that the NFL knowingly withheld information that should have been disclosed to them under Minnesota state law (and many other states too).

“Lying scumbags need not apply”

Since: Jan 08

Yorktown, VA

#44 Mar 10, 2010
A must read blog that has actual testimony from the trial. The NFL isn't looking good in court.

http://www.dailynorseman.com/2010/3/10/136627...
Russ

Jacksonville, FL

#45 Mar 11, 2010
Stubby wrote:
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So there is an approved list and a banned list and Starcaps was on neither even though the NFL knew it contained a banned substance. Many substances are not on either list. Are meat and potatoes on the approved list? I hope so because obviously Pat and Kevin over indulge on both.
Why couldn't the NFL put Starcaps on the banned list back in 2006 when they discovered it contained bumetanide? That is part of what is being contended a the trial, that the NFL knowingly withheld information that should have been disclosed to them under Minnesota state law (and many other states too).
I like how the responsibility goes from the Players to the NFL. Its the NFL's fault that they took a substance that was not on the approved list, that they acknowledged not to take in their player contract. It's the NFL's fault that they didn't tell them ingredients in a supplement. It's the NFL's fault that they ahve to make weight to get a $400,000 bonus. There is no fault by the players, they were just doing what they do?

I hope when I get busted for something, I can just blame someone else.
Bullfarts

Houston, TX

#46 Mar 11, 2010
So they played the system

Got caught

“Lying scumbags need not apply”

Since: Jan 08

Yorktown, VA

#47 Mar 12, 2010
Russ wrote:
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I like how the responsibility goes from the Players to the NFL. Its the NFL's fault that they took a substance that was not on the approved list, that they acknowledged not to take in their player contract. It's the NFL's fault that they didn't tell them ingredients in a supplement. It's the NFL's fault that they ahve to make weight to get a $400,000 bonus. There is no fault by the players, they were just doing what they do?
I hope when I get busted for something, I can just blame someone else.
Stop whining and do some research. Pat called the NFL hotline which did not list Starcaps as banned substance. he did research to see what was in the product and could not find and banned substances. What else was he supposed to do take it to a lab? Maybe he should take his chicken and beef to a lab too as even those simple animals have been found to be illegally injected with steroids and growth hormones. Pat was responsible and did what was reasonably expected by a player before taking a product.

The NFL on the other hand had a lab, tested a product and knew it contained a prescription diuretic. BUT they were able to tell players not to endorse the parent company that manufactured Starcaps. They knew that an illegal substance was in an over the counter product and they ban endorsements so the NFL name isn't tarnished but they don't bother to tell players oh by the way this product can dehydrate you, eleveate your heart levels, raise your blood pressure and when working out in the hot sun maybe even kill you.

Keep thinking the players bear all the responsibility. Roger Goodell could use a yes man like you on his staff.
Bullfarts

Houston, TX

#48 Mar 15, 2010
Maybe he should not eat so much

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