Donovan McNabb likely staying put in Philadelphia

To hear them explain it in Philadelphia, Donovan McNabb is to blame for everything from the Eagles ' failure to win a Super Bowl to the crack in the Liberty Bell .

[sweet34]

Singletary and a buddy? now, Bears hiring Rod M. shouldn't be a surprise to anyone ... it is a buddy system, just ask any Head Coach. They are going to want their own people in there that will supoort their plan. Plain and simple logic.

[SAH]

McNabb's personal best passing yards this year is around 55 yards per game more than Rex's first complete year for the Bears in 2006.

McNabb's 3rd personal best passing TD's of 23 this year was tied by Rex during first complete year for the Bears in 2006 also.

Rex is undefeated in NFC Championship games, but hasn't won a Super Bowl (yet). However, Rex's completion percentage of over 70% in the Super Bowl was higher than McNabb's, as well as all but 5 other QB's in the history of the Super Bowl who attempted at least 12 passes. Four of those QB's are Hall-of-Famers.

And Rex deserved to be history after only three games in 2007 after what he accomplished in his first full season of playing in 2006?

I'm going to enjoy watching Rex play some where, too bad it's not going to be in Chicago for my Bears. I enjoyed watching him win for us. Now I'll enjoy watching him win for some one else, except if and when he plays against the Bears.

But Kyle Orton....ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha, ha,ha,ha

[Stephen]

SAH wrote:

McNabb's personal best passing yards this year is around 55 yards per game more than Rex's first complete year for the Bears in 2006.
McNabb's 3rd personal best passing TD's of 23 this year was tied by Rex during first complete year for the Bears in 2006 also.
Rex is undefeated in NFC Championship games, but hasn't won a Super Bowl (yet). However, Rex's completion percentage of over 70% in the Super Bowl was higher than McNabb's, as well as all but 5 other QB's in the history of the Super Bowl who attempted at least 12 passes. Four of those QB's are Hall-of-Famers.
And Rex deserved to be history after only three games in 2007 after what he accomplished in his first full season of playing in 2006?
I'm going to enjoy watching Rex play some where, too bad it's not going to be in Chicago for my Bears. I enjoyed watching him win for us. Now I'll enjoy watching him win for some one else, except if and when he plays against the Bears.
But Kyle Orton....ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha, ha,ha,ha

So, are you purposely choosing to forget Grossman's 2 interceptions and 2 fumbles in the Super Bowl?

[Stephen]

Oh yeah, and let's not forget his 1 TD and 6 interceptions in the first 3 games of 2007.

[Bleed Cubbie blue]

So McNabb is likely staying put. Who didn't already know this?

[SAH]

Stephen wrote:

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So, are you purposely choosing to forget Grossman's 2 interceptions and 2 fumbles in the Super Bowl?

Like McNabb's two picks and one fumble against the Giants two weeks ago, the article didn't mention interceptions and fumbles. Of course, articles on the greatness of Brett and Peyton don't include all their many multiple interception games either. Like Jake Dehlome's 5 picks and one fumble in ONE game three weeks ago, they can happen to even the better veterans, and still do. The difference is that Rex didn't get a chance to go on and continue to improve, like some are screaming for the Bears to let Orton do after starting more regular season games than Rex had started before he was thrown under the bus.

The only difference between the rotten games played by those OB's and Rex's at the start of last season is that the other QB's had good running games to pass off of, where of course Rex absolutely had none.

Also, both Rex's SB picks where attempts to get the ball to Moose ("We must try and get the ball to Moose" - Lovie) who couldn't separate within the Bears passing schemes. And, of course, every time Orton fumbles another snap from Kruetz, as Griese did too, I always wonder why those were blamed on Rex. Perhaps it was because Rex took the blame upon himself, something I never heard Orton and Griese ever do and never did.

Too bad the Bears didn't make the play-offs. I would have enjoyed comparing Rex's play-off games versus the Saints and Holmgren's Seahawks to what Orton would have done if the Bears had made it. Good thing for Orton that they didn't, because now he gets another year to prove himself....and that will be three to Rex's one.

Next year when Rex gets a chance to play for someone else and does good and you wonder why, take a look at his professional career accomplishments while playing for the Bears in their website, and how they stacked up with all other Bear QB's ever.....and also with Orton's.

When you realize you as a Bear fan have been had, don't feel too bad, newspaper propaganda not only got Rex thrown under the bus in Chicago,it also got Obama elected too. And that's much worse for all of us, as time too will show.

[Mitch]

Dan, when are you guys going to realize that statistics mean nothing? Dan Marino, Brett Favre, all those passing yards and TD's and just one Super Bowl between them. Throw McNabb in there too.

Fact: Donovan McNabb always disappears at the most important moment of the most important game. God, how I hate to agree with T.O., but he was right about McNabb.

[FW Bears Fan]

SAH,
Don't try and reason with the folks on this blog. Most are blinded by something, God only knows what. 41 other QB's have lost SB's, including Jim Kelly, Brett Farve and Roger Staubach, that's company I'd like to keep.

[sweet34]

FW Bears Fan wrote:

SAH,
Don't try and reason with the folks on this blog. Most are blinded by something, God only knows what. 41 other QB's have lost SB's, including Jim Kelly, Brett Farve and Roger Staubach, that's company I'd like to keep.

LOV-iE it ~~

[Huh]

Didn't Rex have a chance to leave the Bears before the 2008 season but didn't? What makes you think that he would have stuck around if he had a choice? Not that NFL general managers haven't been wrong before, e.g. Warner, Garcia.

Anyone have the latest scoop on Grossman?

[Hall of Fame]

I agree with SAH, why is it ok for Orton to screw up and not Rex. I Believe Rex is a better quarterback he is definitely better at throwing the deep ball. It's a shame we never got Rex in o-line help and kept Thomas Jones or had Forte soonner. Orton is good just not better but know that the bears screwed up with Rex lets hope they can get it right with Orton cause I sure would like the bears to have a quarterback in my lifetime.

[sweet34]

A review of Rex's only start:

With Kyle Orton nursing a sprained ankle, Grossman delivered an "uneven" performance in his first start since Dec. 6 of last year.

He was 20-of-37 for 173 yards and led the Bears (5-4) on a 75-yard touchdown drive on their first possession. He also got picked off on the next one.

Recap:
The Titans took a 14-7 lead early in the third quarter when Collins connected with former Bear Justin Gage for a 12-yard touchdown -- the first by a Tennessee wide receiver since the second game.

A 2-yard run by White early in the fourth period made it 21-7, but the Bears refused to go quietly.

Grossman fell into the end zone from the 1 to make it a seven-point game with 4:55 left after a 29-yard pass to Devin Hester.

And they had a chance to tie it after a punt, taking over at the Tennessee 41. But the Titans held.(And I am surprised again by Bears lack of urgency when it mattered and could have done it..the 41 yd line for gosh sakes).

Grossman did orchestrated a 75-yard touchdown drive on the Bears' first possession that ended with a 5-yard pass to Forte.

The good vibe disappeared on the next possession, when Grossman tried to force one to Marty Booker along the left sideline.

**** all in all, 20 completions for 173 yards
is not so bad i guess, for a 1st start, against a "good" team.

Maybe Rex should have been given another game to try establish something?

Could it be we'll never know? Sayonara Rex. I did like you. But, I didn't like the way you prepared.
I think that is your short coming. The two drives vs. Tenn. reflect your career. Success then failure.

Good luck, eliminate that pattern and you'll do fine Rexy.

[sweet34]

and in the scope of life, had the bears not lost 21-14 to the Titans, had they won that game (now (6-4 instead of 5-5), and Rex played well....

and QB history in Chicago would be forever changed, and Rex would go on to win a few SB's for us... Hall of Famer Rex.

we'll never know ...

but could one play make a difference?
With the ball on the 41 yard line, if we score there.... and go on to win ...??? what are the possibilities for Rex?

see how fragile life can be???? one play,
or one bad spot by a "part time ref" ... could be all it takes.

okay... maybe too much drama here? haha !!!

or is it a game of inches?

or is that what Sybil said????

[sweet34]

btw, vs. the Titans we played great Defense that day, except the Defensive Backfield gave up the easy 3rd and 5'-7' yards a lot.

And the back breaker: 12 yd TD to Gage.

Titans ran 29 times, for a net of 20 yards.

But Titans passed for 17 1st downs.

Too bad we couldn't play like this more often.
When the Bears wanted to play, they did compete.

[Huh]

Pretty good recap on that Tennessee game, sweet34. Don't gloss over the fact that he also missed out on a wide open Hester and Davis, badly throwing behind Davis on another pass. Aside from the first series and the fourth quarter, he struggled. Sure, he was second string and was rusty, but being a pro means being ready when the opportunity comes. This was Orton's first shot at the starting job. Grossman would have done himself a big favor by being prepared.

I saw Rex as a poor man's Brett Favre. That's not necessarily bad, until you consider that Favre is a once in a lifetime player. No team can afford to give away its possessions. Thomas Jones, his own teammate, was irked that Favre continued playing after throwing so many interceptions.

Also, has anyone considered the possibility that the league just caught up to Rex's tendencies? Couldn't the NFL coaches have simply adjusted to Rex and he in turn could not make the necessary adjustment? Derek Anderson of Cleveland disappeared after one good year.

[sweet34]

Huh wrote:

Pretty good recap on that Tennessee game, sweet34. Don't gloss over the fact that he also missed out on a wide open Hester and Davis, badly throwing behind Davis on another pass. Aside from the first series and the fourth quarter, he struggled. Sure, he was second string and was rusty, but being a pro means being ready when the opportunity comes. This was Orton's first shot at the starting job. Grossman would have done himself a big favor by being prepared.
I saw Rex as a poor man's Brett Favre. That's not necessarily bad, until you consider that Favre is a once in a lifetime player. No team can afford to give away its possessions. Thomas Jones, his own teammate, was irked that Favre continued playing after throwing so many interceptions.
Also, has anyone considered the possibility that the league just caught up to Rex's tendencies? Couldn't the NFL coaches have simply adjusted to Rex and he in turn could not make the necessary adjustment? Derek Anderson of Cleveland disappeared after one good year.

HUH, I know, the truth does sink in ... i do recall not being to impressed with Rex's performance that day.

As far as assessing Rex, we won't know until he has a chance to play with someone else.

What I do know about the 2006 season is the ball bounce our way a lot. Miracle victories like Mike Browns back to back walk off returns. ETC.

Our schedule in 2006 was a cake walk.

2007 lot's of injuries, and the usual fallout by a SB loser.

2008 9-7 ... but for 11 sec's in ATL not a bad season.

not sure where to assess Rex or Kyle, or this team to be truthful.

maybe it's just glue. seems one piece of this team always failed, whether it be 3rd and short, or the Defense giving up all those 3rd and long's, but, something always broke down when it matter most this last year ... despite that, and Kyle, Rex, and Lovie, we managed a 9-7.

it's just really hard to figure out the character of this team.

[sweet34]

SAH wrote:

But Kyle Orton....ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha, ha,ha,ha

That's 10 haha's Kyle, I think you should respond to this ...umm,.... defend yourself like a man Kyle... sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet.

[SAH]

Huh wrote:

Pretty good recap on that Tennessee game, sweet34. Don't gloss over the fact that he also missed out on a wide open Hester and Davis, badly throwing behind Davis on another pass. Aside from the first series and the fourth quarter, he struggled. Sure, he was second string and was rusty, but being a pro means being ready when the opportunity comes. This was Orton's first shot at the starting job. Grossman would have done himself a big favor by being prepared.
I saw Rex as a poor man's Brett Favre. That's not necessarily bad, until you consider that Favre is a once in a lifetime player. No team can afford to give away its possessions. Thomas Jones, his own teammate, was irked that Favre continued playing after throwing so many interceptions.
Also, has anyone considered the possibility that the league just caught up to Rex's tendencies? Couldn't the NFL coaches have simply adjusted to Rex and he in turn could not make the necessary adjustment? Derek Anderson of Cleveland disappeared after one good year.

Someone here conveniently forgetting Rex in relief of Griese versus Oakland when he came in a hit an absolute bomb to win the game.

The pass he missed to Hester versus the Titans was overthrown by a yard. Perhaps Hester forgot what that was like and not ready for such a throw. As we all know, most of Hester's longer plays from Orton have been with him being interfered with while having to come back to an under thrown ball from Orton.

Anyone who would say that Orton provides more of a problem for a defense to play against than Rex is just plain wrong. That was even said by announcers this year when Rex came in and did play.

As to where Rex will pop up, who knows? That will be Rex's decision and no one elses. But I'll bet there is a receiver in Minnesota who has made a call or two about Rex coming to play there.

And before it all starts, I am well aware that where ever he goes, he most likely will start out as a back-up.
With his resume, he could back up most anywhere. That includes behind Romo at Dallas. After all, if Romo gets hurt running around just before the play-offs begin, Rex has at least done something Romo's never been able to accomplish and with better personnel, and that's win a couple of back to back play-off games and get his team to a Super Bowl. Where even Rex ends up, he pulls that off again for aome other team, you won't see that team bench him three games into the next season. What you will see is the QB he replaced sitting on the side lines watching Rex play.

[terry]

He made a number of poor throws in the clutch against Arizona. True he made some good ones but when he HAD to make good ones as often as not they were poor. He has never won the big one which means that he does he has never won the big one

it don't mean a thing if you ain't got that ring

[sweet34]

You all know this whole argument has to stop.

It's over. Rex is gone. For all we know.

Let's just try to move forward and deal with the "real".

Kyle Orton will most likely be our starting QB next year.

Let's be honest about Rex too. Most of his throws lately looked sick, or were no where near target. SOme of his throws barely clear the lineman's helmets.

Is it his fault, or any one QB in Chitown?

No, they obviously lack the skill set in teaching that position if you monitor the progress of other QB's around the league. It's not great other teams, but at least they are not locking on so much, nor hitting helmets.

But anyway, the point is let's end the argument. Rex is gone, Kyle's our boy. QBk'ing in Chitown will always be a matter of smoking mirrors.