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There are 85 comments on the Daily Breeze story from May 24, 2010, titled Chargers safety, former Redondo star Ellison suspected of having 10.... In it, Daily Breeze reports that:

San Diego Chargers strong safety Kevin Ellison. San Diego Chargers strong safety Kevin Ellison was arrested in Redondo Beach on Monday when police found 100 Vicodin tablets in his car.

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Since: Feb 10

Torrance, CA

#23 May 25, 2010
Hey Daily Breeze....did ya bother to ask the cop if these pills were prescribed?

Ooops.

I have a script for hydros. I get 50 atta time, 7.5/500's.
I've been mangled way worse than any football player.

100 ct. of 5.0/500, or any combo, is a lot. They make several different strentghs.

The most my doc will prescribe is 50. Need more? You come back for re-evaluation as then you are either recreating with them or building up a resistance. Ask me something about hydro's.

Either or, if that bottle had an Rx label w/ his name on it he'da got a pass. Something got him arrested. I've been yanked with my meds in the vehicle. They let me go as I was not under the influence and had a legit Rx.
jjc

Ontario, CA

#25 May 25, 2010
i HAVE A SCRIPT FOR 60 OF THESE RIGHT NOW
annoyed

United States

#26 May 25, 2010
His obvious crime was a Driving While Black in Redondo. Why Search the Car unless the Cops are Fishing? What a complete waste of Taxpayer time and Money. He better hope he doesn't get Judge Thompson or he'll be looking at 2 years in County.
Native

Redondo Beach, CA

#27 May 25, 2010
Never consent to a search of your vehicle by police. They have no right to search without your consent.
Jim

Torrance, CA

#28 May 25, 2010
The guy plays in the NFL! Of course he has a pain killer on him. Typical Redondo PD crap!
Native

Redondo Beach, CA

#29 May 25, 2010
Gert wrote:
"No doctor would give you a prescription for 100 of these things. It's a controlled substance," Grimm said.
NOT TRUE. people with chronic severe pain, one pill every eight hours is technically three a day, roughly a 30 day supply. even if you stretch it to two a day, that is a 45 supply.
It's actually one every SIX hours which makes FOUR per day. I take these occasionally myself but only about 3-4 per week. They are habit forming and I want to avoid that. A typical prescription will consist of 50 pills.
Native

Redondo Beach, CA

#30 May 25, 2010
RoadRage wrote:
But if you don't consent to the search can the cops bring in a K9 unit.If the dog gets a hit, Don't they now have probable cause to search. Maybe someone with a law background can inform us.
Denying them consent to search doesn't automatically grant them probable cause. Ask a lawyer to be sure.
WhatAWaste

Morristown, NJ

#31 May 25, 2010
After all is said and done, he will go to court and probably show the judge he has a prescription and all of this hoopla will have been for nothing.

I have chronic pain and take 4 Vicodin a day (4 x 30 days = 120 a month). I carry about 8 pills at a time in a pill box, I'm not going to carry a big bottle with the whole amount in it.

The RB Police Sgt. doesn't know what he's talking about! Stick to arresting the "real" criminals!
TorranceDude

Woodland Hills, CA

#32 May 25, 2010
this sgt is a dummy.. i had a prescription for 300 in 100 pill increments.. MORON! And on top of that, i had a 200 pill prescription to oxycodone!!

All NFL players take these things.. and they are habit forming.. I had the shakes when I stopped.. So in a way, i applaud the arrest. They are very powerful, and abused by so many..
Daniel

Topanga, CA

#33 May 25, 2010
Police are always looking for ways to make them feel important to society. It is job protection. Never consent to a search. And look at this site for more information. http://www.flexyourrights.com/
PVer

La Mirada, CA

#34 May 25, 2010
give the guy a break, he is probably sore from football and needs the vicodins
Local

Bellflower, CA

#36 May 25, 2010
This is ridiculous. This guy is probably 240 plus pounds. A 100 vicoden is a 30 day supply at 3 a day. He's a football player. The question is, was he under the influence or not. Vicoden affects people differently. For myself, i can't differentiate it from aspren.

He may be quilty of speeding and he may be guilty of being under the influence, but he is not guilty of having a prescription in his car.

BTW, I'm not a football fan and I'm a white guy.
rich b

Palos Verdes Peninsula, CA

#37 May 25, 2010
After Cancer surgery my wife was regularly prescribed Vicodin in bottles containing 120 pills. The Cop is talking out of his arse.
Stop whining

United States

#38 May 25, 2010
Rich wrote:
This article represents very serious ignorance and/or bias, on the part of the statement made by Redondo Beach police Sgt. Peter Grimm, and the overall subject of pain management and medication. The statement by Grimm, "No doctor would give you a prescription for 100 of these things. It's a controlled substance," is absolutely and categorically false. Moreso, the "spin" or inference that statement implies is completely wrong and damaging to ethical doctors and their patients who legitimately need pain meds. For the "normal" chronic pain patient, 90 - 120 vicodins (or equivalent generic) is the standard monthly prescription. THese patients take these medications ONLY AS PRESCRIBED - there are thousands of people who truely NEED these medications, and in NO WAY abuse it. Articles such as this one imply that possesion of such medication is criminal and abusive - and absolutely abuse for recreational purposes happens - BUT for a 6'1" Professional FootBall player, with documented SERIOUS chronic pain related injuries, for the police to "represent" this as a Crime is flat out WRONG! And for this newspaper to "spin" and present this story in a way which implies "wrong-doing" is also WRONG! Please, PLEASE use some measure of BALANCED reporting your news.
You are clearly ignorant to the law and how prescriptions are written and dispersed. First, you see a doctor. Then you get a prescription. Then you go to the pharmacist, who places the medication in a labeled bottle with your name, doctor's name and RX number on the outside for easy identification, dosage, and usage, including warning (s) for drug interaction, alcohol use and the normal heavy equipment/driving warning. Then a 10 page pamphlet explaining dependency, dangers of alcohol use in association with taking the meds and side effects. Now legally, no one may possess any narcotic without a prescription, nor certain narcotics all together under any circumstance (s). Clearly this player would NOT have been arrested if any of the above had been adhered to (save the certain narcotics under any circumstances portion) and driving with 100 pills on your person, unless coming from the pharmacist, may be unusual and suspicious, but a reasonable explanation, show of prescription, doctor, etc., would have surely dispersed any suspicion on the officer's part. Yet this young man WAS arrested. If he needed/was using the medication; A) he should not have been driving, B) a call to his doctor would have cleared up the situation prior to arrest (the fallacy of arrest first and talk later really doesn't apply to policing these days - too much liability) C) the pills were in a clearly marked prescription bottle as described above.
And potentially a litany of many other factors taken into account prior to his arrest....

Additionally, I doubt that many people prescribed a large amount of pain medication carry it on their person at all times unless very special circumstances dictate their entire possession. Anyone prescribed over 100 pills at one time are probably on a dosage of several pills every four hours and should not be driving in any situation including emergencies. 911 works great.

Stop criticizing those that enforce the law and take a second look at those "celebrities" that are potential heroes to your kids, or even you.
strohmy

AOL

#39 May 25, 2010
Rich wrote:
This article represents very serious ignorance and/or bias, on the part of the statement made by Redondo Beach police Sgt. Peter Grimm, and the overall subject of pain management and medication. The statement by Grimm, "No doctor would give you a prescription for 100 of these things. It's a controlled substance," is absolutely and categorically false. Moreso, the "spin" or inference that statement implies is completely wrong and damaging to ethical doctors and their patients who legitimately need pain meds. For the "normal" chronic pain patient, 90 - 120 vicodins (or equivalent generic) is the standard monthly prescription. THese patients take these medications ONLY AS PRESCRIBED - there are thousands of people who truely NEED these medications, and in NO WAY abuse it. Articles such as this one imply that possesion of such medication is criminal and abusive - and absolutely abuse for recreational purposes happens - BUT for a 6'1" Professional FootBall player, with documented SERIOUS chronic pain related injuries, for the police to "represent" this as a Crime is flat out WRONG! And for this newspaper to "spin" and present this story in a way which implies "wrong-doing" is also WRONG! Please, PLEASE use some measure of BALANCED reporting your news.
You are absolutely right my wifes Pain doctor prescribed 6 per day. she has a spinal cord injury with nerve damage.Get your facts straight Sarge you look very stupid when you make comments like that.
strohmy

AOL

#40 May 25, 2010
Stop whining wrote:
<quoted text>
You are clearly ignorant to the law and how prescriptions are written and dispersed. First, you see a doctor. Then you get a prescription. Then you go to the pharmacist, who places the medication in a labeled bottle with your name, doctor's name and RX number on the outside for easy identification, dosage, and usage, including warning (s) for drug interaction, alcohol use and the normal heavy equipment/driving warning. Then a 10 page pamphlet explaining dependency, dangers of alcohol use in association with taking the meds and side effects. Now legally, no one may possess any narcotic without a prescription, nor certain narcotics all together under any circumstance (s). Clearly this player would NOT have been arrested if any of the above had been adhered to (save the certain narcotics under any circumstances portion) and driving with 100 pills on your person, unless coming from the pharmacist, may be unusual and suspicious, but a reasonable explanation, show of prescription, doctor, etc., would have surely dispersed any suspicion on the officer's part. Yet this young man WAS arrested. If he needed/was using the medication; A) he should not have been driving, B) a call to his doctor would have cleared up the situation prior to arrest (the fallacy of arrest first and talk later really doesn't apply to policing these days - too much liability) C) the pills were in a clearly marked prescription bottle as described above.
And potentially a litany of many other factors taken into account prior to his arrest....
Additionally, I doubt that many people prescribed a large amount of pain medication carry it on their person at all times unless very special circumstances dictate their entire possession. Anyone prescribed over 100 pills at one time are probably on a dosage of several pills every four hours and should not be driving in any situation including emergencies. 911 works great.
Stop criticizing those that enforce the law and take a second look at those "celebrities" that are potential heroes to your kids, or even you.
You must carry your prescription "Bottle" with you not doing so is illegal meaning if you have a 5 pill a day regiment you must carry some pills with unless your house bound doing so without the bottle is a felony in this state.
james

Hilo, HI

#41 May 25, 2010
"His obvious crime was a Driving While Black in Redondo"
The Shadow

Bellflower, CA

#42 May 25, 2010
Dear Rich and Greg wrote:
<quoted text>
You are both incredibly wrong. It is in fact a very good arrest, especially if he does NOT have a prescription for the medication. The law indicates that if you have been prescribed medication of this sort, you must have the prescription with you if you have the pills with you. Sorry, but it is an actual crime, and this type of pain medication is COMMONLY misused by many people, using more as a narcotic than a pain medication for an actual injury.
You both apparently have some bias or a giant chip on your shoulder judging from your comments. Rich, you have NO idea what prescriptions he has been given, you have no idea if he can legally possess these pills, yet you jump at the chance to say something negative about the officer. Interesting. I guess not being there and not being involved in the incident, you just don't care about little things called facts.....just make up what ever fits your agenda. The law is there in the Penal Code in black and white.....all you have to do is crack a book and actually read it.
The officer was dead wrong as first pointed out. Many people get 100-150 of these at a time for chronic pain. Please educate us and tell us which Penal Code was violated as you seem to know. Even if the law requires you to have your prescriptions with you, that is not always possible. I have a family member with a chronic disease who takes over 20 different meds a day including hydrocodene. Most refills are done through the pharmacy calling the doctor, in other words no prescription (a physical piece of paper) exists except for the original which the pharmacy has) So having to have them with you is just more BS. As pointed out a BS arrest that wastes everyone's time. Watch the guy probably has a prsecription on record. Anyway does anyone think that cops are the top echelon of thinkers. These are the dummies who can't get real jobs or don't want college. Only the officers ever go to night school to get their management degrees. Most cops = lower IQs.
tease

South Pasadena, CA

#43 May 25, 2010
I agree that this is bad reporting on the Dailybreeze part. Possibly this is the teaser article then later we get Kevin's comment on why he had so many pills. Is the Dailybreeze implying that Kevin was dealing in drugs? I didn't hear anything about wads of cash in his car. Get a comment from the detective, then run with the story? Come on!! I rather read about the fish sticks on the school lunch menu.
This

Vista, CA

#44 May 25, 2010
is a non-story as many of these posts point out a prescription of vicodin in the amounts claimed by the PD officer is not unusual, were the medications in a plastic baggie or a medicine conatiner with a prescirption label on it..?? That's the only thing that would raise red flags to me, and if there was a medication container, was there his name on it..?? Redondo PD officer was probably happy to pull him over because his son's team got run over by this guy during his HS years...

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