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Ohio.com - Contrite and humble, Quinn looks ahead

There are 33 comments on the Akron Beacon Journal story from Aug 8, 2007, titled Ohio.com - Contrite and humble, Quinn looks ahead. In it, Akron Beacon Journal reports that:

BEREA: His swagger was gone, or, at least, set aside. After an 11-day holdout that cost him 16 training camp practices and, perhaps, the Browns' starting quarterback job, Brady Quinn sounded humble and contrite ...

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Mike

San Diego, CA

#21 Aug 9, 2007
a voice wrote:
As for the foolish and irrational Marty lovers!!!!
He can get you to the dance but never win the prize. What a eloquent orator he is.
IF the Browns fire Crennel.....
DO NOT:
1) Hire Cowher
2) Hire Schottenheimer
3) Hire Parcells
4) Hire Saban
5) Hire a washout coordinator (Norv Turner, Cam Cameron, Wade Phillips)

DO:
1) Target Pete Carroll (though Pete would have to be NUTS to leave USC)
2) Consider NCAA coaches
a) Jim Tressel
b) Urban Meyer
3) Look for an NFL coordinator who is:
a) young
b) DRIVEN
4) Consider people like
a) Rex Ryan
b) Ron Rivera
c) Todd Grantham (easy to find!)

Gary

AOL

#24 Aug 9, 2007
I'm getting a little tired of Romeo "playing hardball" with rookies who hold out. As I see it, it's Crennel's responsibility to coach up the players regardless of when they come into camp. What kind of message is he sending by referring to Quinn as "the quarterback" or telling the national media that he looked "lost" during mini-camps? It seems as if he allocates more time belittling holdouts then he does disciplining the current players on his team involved in incidents detrimental to the team,(ie: Braylon Edwards late for a game and dissing players on his own team who are just playing the game the way it's supposed to be played and dismissing Ryan Tucker's steroid incident as if it was just a fly on his shoulder.) As another golden domer and pretty decent quarterback said, "Confidence is a fragile thing" Joe Montana. Build up and coach the young talent he has and he might just save his job!
Tim in Plantation FL

Minneapolis, MN

#25 Aug 9, 2007
I look at our personnel on offense, and I don't see why most experts and fans think we're going to be so bad- like at the bottom of the league again. We have upgraded the OL to at least average with the addition of Thomas and Steinbeck. We have the most talented tight end in the league (at least receiving-wise) who caught 89 balls with a bad knee last year who should only get better if he's healthy. Braylon Edwards is young, fast and talented and should be at least a little better than last year. Jurevicious is a solid #2 receiver. From what I hear, Jamal Lewis looks good in camp and is exploding through holes. Heck, he ran for 1200 years last year when hurt. He's healthy and very motivated with a one-year contract to have a big year so he can get a bigger contract after this year. I would think he could get in the 1200-1500 yard range this year. Our biggest question, of course, is quarterback, but I think even the ones we have will be at least average with the improved OL. Sounds like the potential for at least a middle-of-the-pack offense to me(or maybe even better). What am I missing?
Mike

San Diego, CA

#26 Aug 9, 2007
Kent Dawg wrote:
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You are a perfect example of what is wrong with the Brown's. No where did you mention the OL sucked. No QB is going to be successful with that line. Let me guess you are a season ticket holder.
Hi Kent Dawg.
No. I am not fortunate enough to be a season ticket holder.... though that would do me little good in San Diego (see my location?!)

The offensive line was bad.... but honestly.... it was comparable to Detroit's, Green Bay's, Tampa Bay's, Oakland's, etc....

You.... I might suspect.... have a leaning towards Charlie Frye (small guess since you are "Kent Dawg").

Let me ask you this.....
How many 3rd Rd QB's get as many chances to take over as the starter in the NFL as Frye has had? How many 3rd Rd QB's get ANY chance to be a starter in the NFL at all? How many times does one resort to that reasoning before it becomes nothing more than an excuse for failure?

I don't hate Frye. Give him a shot at being the starter. But, at some point.... you have to stop making excuses and cut your losses. This is the NFL... not junior league flag football.

You're letting your feelings get in the way. Hey... I liked Troy Smith. He didn't end up here. Charlie could just have easily ended up somewhere else. Frye needs to step it up if he wants to be the starter.
Mike

San Diego, CA

#27 Aug 9, 2007
Gary wrote:
I'm getting a little tired of Romeo "playing hardball" with rookies who hold out. As I see it, it's Crennel's responsibility to coach up the players regardless of when they come into camp. What kind of message is he sending by referring to Quinn as "the quarterback" or telling the national media that he looked "lost" during mini-camps? It seems as if he allocates more time belittling holdouts then he does disciplining the current players on his team involved in incidents detrimental to the team,(ie: Braylon Edwards late for a game and dissing players on his own team who are just playing the game the way it's supposed to be played and dismissing Ryan Tucker's steroid incident as if it was just a fly on his shoulder.) As another golden domer and pretty decent quarterback said, "Confidence is a fragile thing" Joe Montana. Build up and coach the young talent he has and he might just save his job!
Romeo is a little bit too much of a "player's coach". He favors the veterans a little bit too much at times I think. He'll cut them slack when he really shouldn't.
rrhc

Cherry Hill, NJ

#28 Aug 9, 2007
Two problems:
For fans-esp. Ohio State fans, it's real hard to like someone from Notre Dame, no matter what...We all need to work on that.
For Brady-can he take a pounding? His MO is to stop focusing on making plays and to adjust his game to take the pounding and bounce back up. That won't do. Brown's quarterbacks get ponded;always. You still have to make plays.
Good luck Brady, and God speed! I'm afraid you're going to need it.
travestystrikesa gain

Nashville, TN

#29 Aug 9, 2007
The Browns are trash and the fans that have them deserve ever bit of them because they are just as arrogant and everything else as Brady Quinn. Poor team/ Poor fan attitudes deserve each other. Way to go mistake on the lake!
Mike H

United States

#30 Aug 9, 2007
Have any of you ever talked to Brady Quinn? The answer is probably no for 99% of you at least, so why are you calling him arrogant? Maybe because he has a better education than just about all of us, I don't know. I'm amazed at how many people have called him arrogant, cocky, stuck on himself, etc., just because he was a holdout. The majority of people feel it was more the fault of the team. The funny thing is, the players don't give a crap if a guy holds out. They all know this is a business, and they've all been in contract talks at one time or another. I just don't understand the hatred for Quinn, if you want to call yourself the best fans in the NFL you should act like it.
OldManGrump

Canton, OH

#31 Aug 9, 2007
Quinn got his 5 year $30 million with $7.75 million guaranteed. Yes, he's worth every penny he got.

When the Browns are 0-8, he'll move in to start at QB and finish out the season like he should.
Better times are coming in 2009 and 2010.

Crennel is as good as gone by mid-season. Browns will suck again this season.
OldManGrump

Canton, OH

#32 Aug 9, 2007
Kent Dawg wrote:
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You are a perfect example of what is wrong with the Brown's. No where did you mention the OL sucked. No QB is going to be successful with that line. Let me guess you are a season ticket holder.
Frye is a failure. Anderson is a failure. Quinn has yet to be tested. Let's hope he's not the next coming of Couch.

Better Quinn play and start in this losing season so he can be ready for 2009.

Crennel sucks and should have been fired along with the rest of his staff. No hope in 2008.

LOok to the future with Brady Quinn in 2009 and beyond.
Mike

San Diego, CA

#33 Aug 9, 2007
OldManGrump wrote:
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Frye is a failure. Anderson is a failure. Quinn has yet to be tested. Let's hope he's not the next coming of Couch.
Better Quinn play and start in this losing season so he can be ready for 2009.
Crennel sucks and should have been fired along with the rest of his staff. No hope in 2008.
LOok to the future with Brady Quinn in 2009 and beyond.
A rather harsh assessment.

As for Tim.... HE didn't have a line to play behind if anyone didn't! If there were a Browns QB since 99 who really didn't get a fair shake.... it's him.

If you wanna read a really good book OldManGrump.... check out "False Start" by Terry Pluto.
Excellent read.
Mike

San Diego, CA

#34 Aug 9, 2007
Mike H wrote:
Have any of you ever talked to Brady Quinn? The answer is probably no for 99% of you at least, so why are you calling him arrogant? Maybe because he has a better education than just about all of us, I don't know. I'm amazed at how many people have called him arrogant, cocky, stuck on himself, etc., just because he was a holdout. The majority of people feel it was more the fault of the team. The funny thing is, the players don't give a crap if a guy holds out. They all know this is a business, and they've all been in contract talks at one time or another. I just don't understand the hatred for Quinn, if you want to call yourself the best fans in the NFL you should act like it.
You wanna know what I really love?.....

It's how some of these non-Browns fans from other places drop in and leave their two cents as to how bad of fans we are.

Look. MAYBE if they had a team and city that had been through as much adversity as ours, they might understand and would likely feel the same way. We've had our team basically robbed out of 2 Superbowl appearances.... STOLEN from us.... WE FOUGHT THE NFL AND WON, getting back our team..... and are now dealing with a team that has YET to even visit the Superbowl.

Browns fans are intense... for better or worse.
Tony C

United States

#35 Aug 10, 2007
I think the Browns' brass, the Cleveland media and Browns fans would have to be insane to want Brady to start any of the first four games of the season this year. Let's see what Frye or Anderson does with a revamped and upgraded line in front of them and then, if the line holds up and neither of those two are "cutting the mustard" by game 5, THEN put Brady in there to see what he can do (provided he's looking better than the other two in practice before week 5). To throw Brady out there before that is tantamount to "Couching" him. Let's have some PATIENCE here, people!!

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