Chad Pennington glad Jets let him go

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The Jets released Chad Pennington the day they traded for Brett Favre , but Pennington felt the team had given up on him long before the Aug. Full Story
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Chad

Schenectady, NY

#1 Jan 8, 2009
And the funny thing about the end of that article is the fact that Chad ended up with a higher yards per completion rating than Favre did. Boy that Mangenius was a real great coach!
Im Still Glad

Radcliff, KY

#2 Jan 8, 2009
I'm still glad he's gone. Like I give a rats a_s_s what his completion rating was. The bottom line is, Chad is not a playoff caliber QB. Just like when he was with us, the defenses pressured him in the post season and he choked. He rushed his throws, and made bad decisions which led to turnovers. He isn't very mobile, or have alot of upper body strength to fight off a defender, so when he senses the pressure closing in, he either trys to get rid of it too early and throws a pick, or he gets sacked and fumbles because of his weak upper body strength.
I don't care what he does in the regular season. The playoffs are a whole different attitude. Defenses get more aggressive and faster, and he has yet to show that he can adapt. I said it before he was traded and I'll say it again. He is a mediocre QB. He may get you to the playoffs, but he just is not capable of carrying a team to the SB. That's why I agreed with letting him go. I'd rather search for another QB, even an unproven rookie, because I'm tired of the mediocrity at the position. There's no difference to me in a QB who is mediocre and can only take you so far, and a QB who out right su_c_ks and loses more games then he wins. I'd rather the team keep sucking, and pickup high draft picks because sooner or later you'll land a franchise QB. Rather then staying mediocre, and always on the line of not too bad but not too great.
FromMyPoint

Jersey City, NJ

#3 Jan 8, 2009
At the end of the day - I was also glad the Jets let him go - making the playoffs is not good enough if you're gonna be out in the first round - What Miama saw from Chad in the playoffs is all they will ever get - and next year with the 1st place schedule they will be back to 4-12 and in a couple of years Miami fans will be screaming for a QB that can take them somewhere. The disappointing thing about this season was not that Farve collapsed - but we still haven't done anything about developing a QB.
Konnecticut_Bett er_Yet

Norwich, CT

#4 Jan 8, 2009
I vaguely remember him playing for the Jets. I know he was on their DL for a few seasons though!

Yeah, thanks for the contribution Chad, especially in the clutch.
Frankie

Pleasanton, CA

#5 Jan 8, 2009
Chad wrote:
And the funny thing about the end of that article is the fact that Chad ended up with a higher yards per completion rating than Favre did. Boy that Mangenius was a real great coach!
The reason he ended up with more yards than Favre
is because of the yards after the catch. He throws
a 10 yard pass and the receiver gains another 20 or more yards and it helps Pennington's yards thrown go higher. Favre is old and washed up but Pennington and his water pistol arm are not the answer and it is good that the Jets got rid of
him. You fools who like Pennington must like all those 5 yard dink and dunk passes.
steger

Philadelphia, PA

#6 Jan 8, 2009
Frankie wrote:
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The reason he ended up with more yards than Favre
is because of the yards after the catch. He throws
a 10 yard pass and the receiver gains another 20 or more yards and it helps Pennington's yards thrown go higher. Favre is old and washed up but Pennington and his water pistol arm are not the answer and it is good that the Jets got rid of
him. You fools who like Pennington must like all those 5 yard dink and dunk passes.
Who cares if they're before or after the catch? I'd rather my quarterback throw it 10 yards backwards if they're gaining yards at the end.
Frankie

Pleasanton, CA

#7 Jan 8, 2009
steger wrote:
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Who cares if they're before or after the catch? I'd rather my quarterback throw it 10 yards backwards if they're gaining yards at the end.
It makes a big difference when you talk about yards after the catch.
He has nothing to do with yards after the catch you moron!
Pennington has never beaten a great defensive team. He might take your team to the playoffs but they will be one and done after that. Pennington is great at those stupid play action dink and dunk passes. I was sick of seeing his 5 and 10 yard passes on the Jets and was very glad when they got rid of him. You can still kiss your Pennington poster every night.
If your team is trailing by 2 touchdowns or more Pennington will never bring your team back so the game is really over as has been proven with him as the QB.
New Yorker in Florida

Tampa, FL

#8 Jan 8, 2009
steger wrote:
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Who cares if they're before or after the catch? I'd rather my quarterback throw it 10 yards backwards if they're gaining yards at the end.
You make a valid point.
But there is a better one to be made.
Yards after catch stats:
Favre = 1779
Pennington = 1546
so Favre benefitted more from yards after the catch while also having a significantly lower....
Yards per pass attempt:
Favre = 6.65
Pennington = 7.67
QB rating: 4th quarter
Favre = 81.0 Favre = 75.0
Pennington = 97.4 Pennington = 84.2

Now while it is accepted (and I agree) that Pennington is not a great QB and he did fall flat in the playoffs. We can not compare how Favre would have done.
Simply because HE DID NOT GET INTO THE PLAYOFFS
steger

Philadelphia, PA

#9 Jan 8, 2009
Frankie wrote:
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It makes a big difference when you talk about yards after the catch.
He has nothing to do with yards after the catch you moron!
Pennington has never beaten a great defensive team. He might take your team to the playoffs but they will be one and done after that. Pennington is great at those stupid play action dink and dunk passes. I was sick of seeing his 5 and 10 yard passes on the Jets and was very glad when they got rid of him. You can still kiss your Pennington poster every night.
If your team is trailing by 2 touchdowns or more Pennington will never bring your team back so the game is really over as has been proven with him as the QB.
A QB definitely has something to do with yards after catch. We're not talking about yards after contact, MORON!

You'd think Favre could have done a little bit more with Coles and Cotchery too.
Dave

Denville, NJ

#10 Jan 8, 2009
Glad he is gone. Miami will never win a playoff game with him.

He was such a bum in New York that he was benched for mediocre talent Clemens. How lame is that.

And we all know he will be hurt next year.

Bye Chad.
Frankie

Pleasanton, CA

#11 Jan 8, 2009
steger wrote:
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A QB definitely has something to do with yards after catch. We're not talking about yards after contact, MORON!
You'd think Favre could have done a little bit more with Coles and Cotchery too.
Yeah, Pennington is great. This year the Jets would have won about 3 or 4 games with Pennington as QB. Every team would have stacked 8 or 9 guys on the line and the running game would be stalled and Pennington would have done nothing. I guess you forgot what he did with the Jets in his final year. Favre was old and washed up and had trouble adjusting to a new team but that does not mean Pennington would have done any
better in fact he would have done a lot worse. I can just see it now 3rd down and 9 and Pennington throws a 4 yard pass like he always used to do on the Jets.
Dave

Denville, NJ

#12 Jan 8, 2009
Frankie wrote:
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Yeah, Pennington is great. This year the Jets would have won about 3 or 4 games with Pennington as QB. Every team would have stacked 8 or 9 guys on the line and the running game would be stalled and Pennington would have done nothing. I guess you forgot what he did with the Jets in his final year. Favre was old and washed up and had trouble adjusting to a new team but that does not mean Pennington would have done any
better in fact he would have done a lot worse. I can just see it now 3rd down and 9 and Pennington throws a 4 yard pass like he always used to do on the Jets.
agree. And don't forget the beating Favre took this year, right down to the second to last play. Chad would have been on the DL by week 3.
Third Watch

Torrington, CT

#13 Jan 8, 2009
Whatever you say Chad.
New Yorker in Florida

Tampa, FL

#14 Jan 8, 2009
Frankie wrote:
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It makes a big difference when you talk about yards after the catch.
He has nothing to do with yards after the catch you moron!
Pennington has never beaten a great defensive team. He might take your team to the playoffs but they will be one and done after that. Pennington is great at those stupid play action dink and dunk passes. I was sick of seeing his 5 and 10 yard passes on the Jets and was very glad when they got rid of him. You can still kiss your Pennington poster every night.
If your team is trailing by 2 touchdowns or more Pennington will never bring your team back so the game is really over as has been proven with him as the QB.
Quick to call people moron.
You bring little else but your opinion to the table.
Even your valid points are suspect due to your overall negative vibe.

Regarding your last point:
It is true that Pennington was no smash success at bringing his team back from 2 TDs. You would be surprised at what Favre's record is for these situations. While many of us will post that bringing in Favre was no better than having Pennington and much less better than actually developing or acquiring a younger top QB - there is little to be gained from bashing Favre. Some will bash either QB at will without bringing any facts to support their opinion.
Busey

Melville, NY

#15 Jan 8, 2009
Frankie wrote:
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It makes a big difference when you talk about yards after the catch.
He has nothing to do with yards after the catch you moron!
Pennington has never beaten a great defensive team. He might take your team to the playoffs but they will be one and done after that. Pennington is great at those stupid play action dink and dunk passes. I was sick of seeing his 5 and 10 yard passes on the Jets and was very glad when they got rid of him. You can still kiss your Pennington poster every night.
If your team is trailing by 2 touchdowns or more Pennington will never bring your team back so the game is really over as has been proven with him as the QB.
So you would rather have Favre throw it down the field for a pick....

But hey, at least he has a strong arm....
Frankie

Pleasanton, CA

#16 Jan 8, 2009
New Yorker in Florida wrote:
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Quick to call people moron.
You bring little else but your opinion to the table.
Even your valid points are suspect due to your overall negative vibe.
Regarding your last point:
It is true that Pennington was no smash success at bringing his team back from 2 TDs. You would be surprised at what Favre's record is for these situations. While many of us will post that bringing in Favre was no better than having Pennington and much less better than actually developing or acquiring a younger top QB - there is little to be gained from bashing Favre. Some will bash either QB at will without bringing any facts to support their opinion.
Pnnington is very fragile and would have been lucky to last the entire season with the Jets without getting injured. His water pistol arm
was too frustrating to watch. At least with Favre
he could throw 60 yards in the air and teams were aware that he could unlike Pennington.
Of course the things I say are just my opinion so I don't get your point. I bash both QB's, Favre and Pennington for good reasons which I have stated in the past. So if that is being negative then too dam.n bad.
Frankie

Pleasanton, CA

#17 Jan 8, 2009
Busey wrote:
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So you would rather have Favre throw it down the field for a pick....
But hey, at least he has a strong arm....
No I just want to see a guy on the Jets who has a stronger arm than a guy in high school. How did you like watching Pennington in the last 2 minutes of a game that the Jets were trailing by
a touchdown and he is dinking and dunking eating up the clock when it would take him 5 minutes to get down the field doing that. Or how about the out pass that he floats up toward the sidelines that gets picked off for a touchdown. I guess you liked that.
Teresa

New York, NY

#18 Jan 8, 2009
I thought the Jets should have cut him after 2005 when he had the SECOND rotator cuff surgery and went after Drew Brees. If they had done that we still wouldn't be in this QB black hole.

Let us see what happens next year when the Dolphins pull the harder schedule. He looked like the same Old Chad during the playoffs so I still say the Jets made the right call
Mike

Québec, Canada

#19 Jan 8, 2009
I liked Chad as a character guy and good teammate but Miami got exactly what the Jets had,a guy that will get you to the playoffs,but not deep into the playoffs...i still think Favre is better than Chad.Mangini and Shottenheimer were the reason the Jets blew it!
New Yorker in Florida

Tampa, FL

#20 Jan 8, 2009
Frankie wrote:
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Pnnington is very fragile and would have been lucky to last the entire season with the Jets without getting injured. His water pistol arm
was too frustrating to watch. At least with Favre
he could throw 60 yards in the air and teams were aware that he could unlike Pennington.
Of course the things I say are just my opinion so I don't get your point. I bash both QB's, Favre and Pennington for good reasons which I have stated in the past. So if that is being negative then too dam.n bad.
Pennington has had injury problems but he played all 16 games this year. The Jets offensive line was revamped (plenty of money spent) and nobody can prove that he would have played less than what he managed on the Dolphins. Your point about Favre having a stronger arm seem to be relevant only in the past tense. He accomplished NOTHING that Pennington didn't do with the Jets every other year (when healthy). The most accurate thing you have posted is that you are willing to bash both QBs.
While I have steadfastly agreed that Chad was not a BIG winner, I can see little sense in claiming the Jets were better off with Favre. I am saying that Pennington was a bit better than some may be willing to concede.
The coach (like you) seemed to think very little of Pennington. The coach may have lost his job based on his assumptions. You are free to continue posting rants about "water pistol arms" while completely ignoring that he won and Favre LOST. If you come back with something about it being a team game (a fair observation) then I may have to assume that you believe that Favre outplayed Pennington and if not for the inferior Jet team he would have won. Good luck selling that one.

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