Jets deny Favre given 'months' to decide

Jets deny Favre given 'months' to decide

There are 39 comments on the South Florida Sun-Sentinel story from Feb 2, 2009, titled Jets deny Favre given 'months' to decide. In it, South Florida Sun-Sentinel reports that:

Even on Super Bowl Sunday, Brett Favre made news. Sports Illustrated's Peter King, speaking on NBC 's pregame show early yesterday afternoon, reported that Jets general manager Mike Tannenbaum had his first ...

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Bob Greasy

Manistee, MI

#22 Feb 4, 2009
Yawn, this is the most boring and repetitive story in sports.
Phineas

AOL

#23 Feb 4, 2009
HMMM wrote:
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All these facts and figures do not change the fact the Dolphins have not won a SB since 1973, the Bills never. But I know, typical Dolphin thinking...we haven't won it but we've been there. Lets shoot for 2nd best title.......
Here's a question: What does Dan Marino have in common with Jim Sorgi, Trent Dilfer and Charlie Batch? Not a thing...they all have Super Bowl rings.....
Your joking right? Please tell me your joking because I refuse to believe that anyone could possibly be this stupid.
HMMM

United States

#25 Feb 4, 2009
Kevin M wrote:
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Yes it does. I'm glad we can agree on your moronic example. They say recognizing your problem is half the battle.
Congratulations! You're half way there.
Actually, I was talking about you. I understand you're not smart enough to make the connection. That's OK. Keep comparing the stories of two rival franchises to mask the dissapointment that YOUR team, the one you actally care about, has not won a SB in 35 years compared to 40 years for the other team. Now go back to watching 'Dancing with the Stars' in your mother's basement....
Armchair Analyst

United States

#26 Feb 4, 2009
There are two aspects of this story that are deserving of comment:(1) the Farve issue and how it impacts the Jets' off-season personnel moves, and (2) how the story itself is written and reported.

Let's begin with the first. I sincerely hope old man Farve decides to return. It'll only ensure the organization is forced to delay a transition at the position, which will certainly help the Fins as well as everyone else in the division. Hopefully, Farve's incredible selfishness and desire to stay in the spotlight will help to bring down another organization. That would be sweet. And while he's at it, he'll be able to add to that tarnished image and his already record-setting INT numbers, joining a long line of once-great athletes in many sports who simply didn't know how to step away gracefully when it was time. Another benefit is it would continue to prove how gutless and biased the national media myth-makers at ESPN and the NFL Network are in their continual fawning over Farve.

Now, for the second issue. Obviously the story was written to create sensation and controversy (how shocking!). Peter King is first represented as reporting that the Jets have told Farve he can take 'months IF NECESSARY' to make his decision. Then Tannenbaum is represented as (in the words of the reporter)'refuting' King's report and saying he 'hopes to have an INTIAL INDICATION' of Farve's intentions by the Combine later this month. Now I ask the reader: What in the above quotes, especially noting the words in caps, is contradictory and shows a refutation? Absolutely NOTHING. Both King's report and Tannenbaum's statement are carefully nuanced. Neither contradicts the other, and both can be accepted at face value and fit together logically. All of which indicates one of two possibilities: Either the reporter needs to enhance his interpretive skills and grasp of elementary logic, or he was intentionally promoting a distortion in the interests of creating a story out of what would otherwise have been a non-story and not worth reporting. You decide. But let this example teach you a healthy skepticism about how things are reported in the media.
Armchair Analyst

United States

#27 Feb 4, 2009
HMMM wrote:
<quoted text>
D.i.c.k.breath.......Jim Sorgi, Trent Dilfer, and Charlie Batch all have Super Bowl Rings. Dan Marino does not. These are facts, I am not making this up. If you're argument is that they were primarily back-ups the I can say Joe Montana, John Elway and Brett Favre also have rings (Farve also broke all of Dan's records) Looks like you are the stupid one...the truth hurts.
I am perfectly willing to concede that Elway, Montana, and Farve were great QB's in their time, as was Marino. All three of them had better running games to complement the passing attack than Marino was ever blessed with. As for Storgi, Dilfer, and Batch, I hope you're not seriously implying that because they have SB rings and Marino doesn't they're on his level as players or even better than him. That's a tremendous leap in logic and a reductionist argument. Surely, the criteria of individual greatness cannot be funneled down to a single criteria??! What your first three examples really prove is just how much the game of football is NOT an individual sport, which is precisely the point of my response.

Since: Mar 08

O Fallon, IL

#28 Feb 4, 2009
HMMM wrote:
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And the last time the Dolphins won the SB was......????
The only 'joke' was the night your mother got pregnant....
The Dolphins have made 5 Super Bowls and won two of them since the last time the Jets went in 1970.

Anyway, since the season starts again in just 7 months, isn't it a foregone conclusion that Favre only has "months" to decide whether he's retiring or not? It's reality, not the Jets levying that deadline on him to man up and make a decision.

“WHY NOT US!!!”

Since: Feb 08

north miami beach

#29 Feb 4, 2009
HMMM wrote:
<quoted text>
D.i.c.k.breath.......Jim Sorgi, Trent Dilfer, and Charlie Batch all have Super Bowl Rings. Dan Marino does not. These are facts, I am not making this up. If you're argument is that they were primarily back-ups the I can say Joe Montana, John Elway and Brett Favre also have rings (Farve also broke all of Dan's records) Looks like you are the stupid one...the truth hurts.
HMMMM is getting a little bent out of shape here... Whats your logic here, are you telling us that nobodies can win the super bowl as well as the superstars? I like that kind of thinking, cause thats what you will see from the Dolphins in the very near future...GO PHINS!!!
kelley

AOL

#30 Feb 4, 2009
Armchair Analyst wrote:
There are two aspects of this story that are deserving of comment:(1) the Farve issue and how it impacts the Jets' off-season personnel moves, and (2) how the story itself is written and reported.
Let's begin with the first. I sincerely hope old man Farve decides to return. It'll only ensure the organization is forced to delay a transition at the position, which will certainly help the Fins as well as everyone else in the division. Hopefully, Farve's incredible selfishness and desire to stay in the spotlight will help to bring down another organization. That would be sweet. And while he's at it, he'll be able to add to that tarnished image and his already record-setting INT numbers, joining a long line of once-great athletes in many sports who simply didn't know how to step away gracefully when it was time. Another benefit is it would continue to prove how gutless and biased the national media myth-makers at ESPN and the NFL Network are in their continual fawning over Farve.
Now, for the second issue. Obviously the story was written to create sensation and controversy (how shocking!). Peter King is first represented as reporting that the Jets have told Farve he can take 'months IF NECESSARY' to make his decision. Then Tannenbaum is represented as (in the words of the reporter)'refuting' King's report and saying he 'hopes to have an INTIAL INDICATION' of Farve's intentions by the Combine later this month. Now I ask the reader: What in the above quotes, especially noting the words in caps, is contradictory and shows a refutation? Absolutely NOTHING. Both King's report and Tannenbaum's statement are carefully nuanced. Neither contradicts the other, and both can be accepted at face value and fit together logically. All of which indicates one of two possibilities: Either the reporter needs to enhance his interpretive skills and grasp of elementary logic, or he was intentionally promoting a distortion in the interests of creating a story out of what would otherwise have been a non-story and not worth reporting. You decide. But let this example teach you a healthy skepticism about how things are reported in the media.
how do you know this? by what you read on the
internet? you have way too much time on your
hands, maybe you should be a buffalo bills fan.
Bet on it

Mandaluyong City, Philippines

#31 Feb 5, 2009
dolphin donnie of na wrote:
<quoted text>wow kid thats awsum,what in gods name are you doing in the p.i.?you military?
Haircuts 1.00dollar.Ciggs,25cents a pack,GAS 90cents a gallon, Money is 50 to one American,Massage is 6.00 dollars---10.00 dollars with a Happy Ending,Women are 2to1 with tits and teeth,4to1 without.Life is ok over here.
Kevin M

Mount Laurel, NJ

#32 Feb 5, 2009
HMMM wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, I was talking about you. I understand you're not smart enough to make the connection. That's OK. Keep comparing the stories of two rival franchises to mask the dissapointment that YOUR team, the one you actally care about, has not won a SB in 35 years compared to 40 years for the other team. Now go back to watching 'Dancing with the Stars' in your mother's basement....
Actually I knew exactly what you were saying and just turned it around on you. Look you'er the tool coming onto another teams website to spout off. You deserve all of the contempt hurled your way.

Go away Hmmm you bother me and your obviously low on intelligence.
Kevin M

Mount Laurel, NJ

#33 Feb 5, 2009
HMMM wrote:
<quoted text>
D.i.c.k.breath.......Jim Sorgi, Trent Dilfer, and Charlie Batch all have Super Bowl Rings. Dan Marino does not. These are facts, I am not making this up. If you're argument is that they were primarily back-ups the I can say Joe Montana, John Elway and Brett Favre also have rings (Farve also broke all of Dan's records) Looks like you are the stupid one...the truth hurts.
Of course your facts are correct except Farve hasn't broken all of Marino's records.

It's your juvinile logic re second rate qb's like Batch and Sorgi that make you look positively stupid unless of course you aren't trying to say that Dilfer, Sorgi and Batch couldn't come close to Marino's ability.
HMMM

United States

#34 Feb 5, 2009
Kevin M wrote:
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Of course your facts are correct except Farve hasn't broken all of Marino's records.
It's your juvinile logic re second rate qb's like Batch and Sorgi that make you look positively stupid unless of course you aren't trying to say that Dilfer, Sorgi and Batch couldn't come close to Marino's ability.
I see you've ventured into your mom's basement again. You still haven't figured out that my remark about those back up QBs in comparison to Marino was sarcastic in response to your references to Miami 'being in the SB 5 times' but only winning it all twice. It doesn't matter. The Dolphins have won 2 SBs, the last in 1973 four years after the Jets won their SB. Your Dolphins are NOT one of the NFLs elite as you seem to suggest.....numnuts
HMMM

United States

#36 Feb 5, 2009
Armchair Analyst wrote:
<quoted text>
I am perfectly willing to concede that Elway, Montana, and Farve were great QB's in their time, as was Marino. All three of them had better running games to complement the passing attack than Marino was ever blessed with. As for Storgi, Dilfer, and Batch, I hope you're not seriously implying that because they have SB rings and Marino doesn't they're on his level as players or even better than him. That's a tremendous leap in logic and a reductionist argument. Surely, the criteria of individual greatness cannot be funneled down to a single criteria??! What your first three examples really prove is just how much the game of football is NOT an individual sport, which is precisely the point of my response.
It was a sarcastic response to that idiot from Illinois

Since: Mar 08

O Fallon, IL

#38 Feb 5, 2009
HMMM wrote:
<quoted text>
All these facts and figures do not change the fact the Dolphins have not won a SB since 1973, the Bills never. But I know, typical Dolphin thinking...we haven't won it but we've been there. Lets shoot for 2nd best title.......
Here's a question: What does Dan Marino have in common with Jim Sorgi, Trent Dilfer and Charlie Batch? Not a thing...they all have Super Bowl rings.....
Luc Longley has 3 NBA championship rings, so I guess that makes him one of the 5 best centers in NBA history. Since Robert Horry has 6-7 championship rings, he's obviously the best NBA forward to ever play. Since Terry Bradshaw earned 4, and did it all in only a 6-year span, I guess that makes him the Greatest QB to ever play the game.
Erik

Moncton, Canada

#39 Feb 5, 2009
Delphinus 13 wrote:
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Luc Longley has 3 NBA championship rings, so I guess that makes him one of the 5 best centers in NBA history. Since Robert Horry has 6-7 championship rings, he's obviously the best NBA forward to ever play. Since Terry Bradshaw earned 4, and did it all in only a 6-year span, I guess that makes him the Greatest QB to ever play the game.
HMMM has already explained he referred to those back-ups having rings as a sarcastic comparison to some other poster's logic on this board. I don't think any sane person thinks Jim Sorgi is better then Dan Marino....
dolphin donnie of na

AOL

#40 Feb 6, 2009
Bet on it wrote:
<quoted text>Haircuts 1.00dollar.Ciggs,25cents a pack,GAS 90cents a gallon, Money is 50 to one American,Massage is 6.00 dollars---10.00 dollars with a Happy Ending,Women are 2to1 with **** and teeth,4to1 without.Life is ok over here.
thats it im on my way!:)
Lifetime Fin Fan

Deltona, FL

#41 Feb 6, 2009
HMMM wrote:
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And the last time the Dolphins won the SB was......????
The only 'joke' was the night your mother got pregnant....
Ahhhhh, yes. You can tell the approach of a new football season by two things:

1. The Brett Farve watch has begun. When will it end? Not soon enough.

2. Asssholes like HMMM go on threads for other teams and post idiotic, semi-retarded nonsense that shows a complete lack of knowledge about everything. Hey HMMM, is a "Your Mother" comment the best you can do? Yeah, it probably is. You seem like a loser even for a troll.

BTW: Anybody seen zombie on this thread yet? Him and HMMM have lots in common.
jets suck

Miami, FL

#42 Feb 8, 2009
what a joke of a franchise!! Lifelong Losers! Bring Brett back so he can go for 40 picks this time!!

LMAO!
Bob Greasy

Manistee, MI

#43 Feb 9, 2009
Erik wrote:
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HMMM has already explained he referred to those back-ups having rings as a sarcastic comparison to some other poster's logic on this board. I don't think any sane person thinks Jim Sorgi is better then Dan Marino....
Mrs. Sorgi does.

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