Try to name best players on Browns

Try to name best players on Browns

There are 59 comments on the Akron Beacon Journal story from Apr 12, 2007, titled Try to name best players on Browns. In it, Akron Beacon Journal reports that:

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Dayton, OH

#1 Apr 12, 2007
Braylon and Charlie are the top five, am I right or wrong...

The others mentioned are pros, and that means they know the game and have tallent, but lets see a winning season first before we put anybody else in that top five... me.....
Agree to Disagree

Independence, OH

#2 Apr 12, 2007
Frye and Edwards do not deserve to be on that list.

Do we really need to discuss Edwards and his lacking of... catching the ball and making plays?

He needs to do some major soul searching, if he intends on being a break-out #1 option for somebody. He is not that now.

I'm not going to dwell on who's going to 'fall from the sky' to take a stab behind the center of this pathetic line. I personally like the idea of Frye being Cleveland's Rocky, but I don't forsee his career as a starter lasting much longer.

Again, personally I just don't see a positive change in his game - improvement of pass protection or not.

This year should be as good a test to that as any. Now, we have a 'respectable' back that can actually stand as a threat in a PA. We've got small improvements to the line. But then again, when have 5 guys had the opportunity to work together a whole season.

Which brings us to the real question? What is the major malfunction with this training staff?
Football guru

Cleveland, OH

#3 Apr 12, 2007
Andra Davis should be happy Jamal Lewis is now a Brown.

Davis has consistently been non-existant against the run because he lacks quickness. He also was the middle backer when Jamal Lewis blew up the Browns 2 years ago for 500 yards.
Can't play off blocks and can't plug holes.

In order for the Browns to improve Davis should be replaced by Leon Williams.


Canton, OH

#4 Apr 12, 2007
Wouldn't it have made more since to name the bottom 5 players? There is a lot more competition.
browns fan

Colorado Springs, CO

#5 Apr 12, 2007
I want Asante Samuel in a Browns uniform. He wants out of New England and threatened to sit out the year, so we might not have to give up alot in return. And we can afford the money he may ask with that salary cap increase(if he doesn't ask for Nate Clemments money).It would immediatly turn a weakness into a serious strength to put him on the other side of Bodden..

On draft day i want either Calvin Johnson or Joe Thomas or trade down.

My question to you:
With all the talk last year about always taking the best available player in the draft regardless of position, do you think we would, or even should, draft Calvin Johnson if he's there??
David Doepker

Rochester, MI

#6 Apr 12, 2007
We certainly don't have a lot of top-notch talent. But we're improving. A couple more names I'd add to the "honorable mention" list: Steve Heiden and Leon Williams.

Heiden isn't flashy, but right now he's one of our most reliable pass-catchers. A lot of teams would love to have him on their team.

Williams showed promise as a rookie and I think he'll be a contributer for years. I wouldn't be surprised to see him as a starter in the future. You can't teach his size and speed.

Boca Raton, FL

#7 Apr 12, 2007
So if we can't close holes when we pass, and we can't open them when we run, why don't we just pull a Costanza and do the opposite? Tell the O-line it's a pass, then run it and vice-verse?
barry bonds

Brook Park, OH

#8 Apr 12, 2007
laughing my ass off. Charlie frye on that list? Maybe the "top five taxi squad players" list. Do us all a favor and cut the weak armed willard hick early in training camp. Draft a stud. Enough about joe thomas. Drafting him leads to a 60 million dollar contract which means 100 million bucks invested in the line. And still no playmakers. No QB. No stud RB. Nothing. So draft wisely. Calvin Johnson, Russel, Petersen, or even Quinn.
Greg Baggott

Mentor, OH

#9 Apr 12, 2007
I think Terry hit the nail on the head at the end of this article. Drafting Quinn or a QB does us no good at this point.

To be a successful NFL team you need to dominate in at least 1 facet of the game. Given the Browns play 8 games a year in windy and sometimes cold Cleveland Browns Stadium, it's hard to throw the ball so you must A. be able to run the ball and B. be able to stop the run.

We can address running the ball with Joe Thomas in Rd 1 and Michael Bush in Rd 3. Next off season it's time for a hard push for the defensive line.

If we can be top half to top 10 in the league at both of those areas we'd be a top 10 team in this league. Still we are far from that.

Win the battles in the trenches and win a majority of your games. Simple as that.
Michael Lewandowski

San Diego, CA

#10 Apr 12, 2007
Draft Quinn in the first round.... and draft defensive line and offensive line with 2-5. Players I would look at include Doug Free, Andy Alleman, Brandon Frye (no relation to Charlie), Victor Abiamiri, Josh Beekman, James Marten.... just naming a few. Seriously though, I'd try to get Quinn.... you can always try to manuever to get Darren McFadden next year (does no one think of next year?). If not Quinn... take Peterson, and then aim for a kid like Colt Brennan (Hawaii) next season if Frye/Anderson can't step up this year. If you approach things season to season.... you'll always be playing catch up.
Da Truth

Redwood City, CA

#11 Apr 12, 2007
Most of these top 5 will be out for the 2007 season, due to injuries. This is Cleveland and we know that Steinbach and most likely Jones will go down. Winslow is already injured, even if he plays it will not be at a high level. I believe the punter, punter return combo might be the top elements of the Browns. Cribbs will probably not get enough opportunities to return punts due to the weak defense, but he could set a record for number of KO returns. I agree with you...a quarterback does not make a difference with a team without an O line...or a D line for that matter.
Michael Lewandowski

San Diego, CA

#12 Apr 12, 2007
As for our top 5..... easy.

Yes.... Steve Heiden.... go back and watch the game tapes. He's been a great player for the team. His numbers may not look great, but he's been reliable in the clutch... is almost never hurt.... and is tough to take down.


#13 Apr 12, 2007
This is the problem with the Browns. Individual "best players" or prima donas is not the question or the answer. The Browns need to srart playing as the "Best Team". One player on his own will not win championships. Start acting and playing as a TEAM!
A different Tony Z

Akron, OH

#14 Apr 12, 2007
On draft day....
Trade our 4th rounder for Trent Green. Draft Johnson in the 1st, a CB in the 2nd, and Micheal Bush in the 3rd. Use all the 2nd day picks on DL, OL and best availables.
A sleeper pick for the Browns might just be Drew Stanton if he's there on day 2.
Quinn is not worth the 3rd pick in the draft, Wiess is talking him up so he can increase his recruiting numbers for the Golden Domers. Quinn is completely overrated and reminds me of Akili Smith.
Scott S

United States

#15 Apr 12, 2007
This should lead the Browns to drafting Adrian Peterson. He is going to be the next great stud running back and will help the Browns control the clock and keep their tired defense off the field. A great running back will help this line to over-achieve, which will also help the passing game and reduce the pressure off of our Quarterback!!!!
Buck Stops

Tulsa, OK

#16 Apr 12, 2007
Jerry Sherk
Michael Lewandowski

San Diego, CA

#17 Apr 12, 2007
There is a huge difference between Akili Smith and Brady Quinn, A different TonyZ.... one was a 4 year starter. Guess which one....(hint: His name last name isn't Smith). A couple of sports publications looked at the history of QB's and found across the board, there was a pattern in that multiple year starters performed significantly better in the NFL than "one hit wonders" like Akili Smith, Tim Couch, Ryan Leaf....
Michael Lewandowski

San Diego, CA

#18 Apr 12, 2007
Ron wrote:
This is the problem with the Browns. Individual "best players" or prima donas is not the question or the answer. The Browns need to srart playing as the "Best Team". One player on his own will not win championships. Start acting and playing as a TEAM!
This is the real truth of the matter.
Think of the winning teams of late.... New England, San Diego (minus the Schottenheimer Effect), Chicago, Seattle....

You have to build a strong core of players. We have some great pieces... K. Wimbley, D. Jackson, L. Williams, B. Pool, S. Jones for Defense... all could start for any team. Problem is... on offense... my list is short.... Winslow. Edwards has not lived up to his status and could become our "T.O.". The offense needs a serious infusion of fresh blood. Peterson, Quinn, or Thomas would be a nice start... but we need at least 2 more OL starters.... a QB, RB, and a third WR. reasonably... Quinn or Peterson in the first round, Alleman or Grubbs in second, another O-Lineman in 3rd (maybe D-line), and a third O-Lineman or developmental "skill position" player in 4th.

Akron, OH

#19 Apr 12, 2007
Dirt Biker

Alexandria, VA

#20 Apr 12, 2007
I agree with Terry.

Draft Joe Thomas. The Browns never draft offensive lineman in the early rounds. Consequently, they make patchwork moves in free agency...usually for players coming off of injury or way beyond their prime.

I hear what some are saying about skill positions, which is why I wouldn't be upset about drafting C. Johnson.

I'm tired of hearing QB talk. Anyone who judges Charlie Frye at this point isn't being reasonable. Our line has stunk it up for years, and we can't run the ball. It's difficult to complete a pass when you're constantly running for your life. Just ask Tim Couch. Ask Kelly Holcomb. Ask Trent Dilfer. Brady Quinn won't be any different. It would be a waste of a pick.

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