It's likeable Giants vs. villainous Patriots

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They are Giants in name but certainly not the Goliath come Super Bowl Sunday. No, that distinction belongs exclusively to the mighty Patriots, who are unbeaten, unflinching and, in the minds of many in football ... Read more
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Dan K

Englewood, CO

#1 Jan 21, 2008
What a bunch of hooha. The Patriots, Red Sox, and Celtics all start playing like champions, and we become the yankees? No, we don't go out and spend every single cent of our extreme wealth on old beat up players. Boston looks for talent, finds it, and wins with it. Don't twist the david and goliath story to good and evil, you're just wrong.
Raid

Worcester, MA

#5 Jan 22, 2008
Mr Conspiracy wrote:
<quoted text>No there not America's team. I'm a GIANT fan and can tell you this was not the team the NFL wanted to play the "mighty" Pats. The Giants played well enough to beat the Pats in week 16. A penalty here, an offensive hold not called there, Brady gets the ball and throws to "push off" Moss and WA-LAH..... 16 and 0. We can beat these guys. Unfortunately with the way sports in general w/ Pac-man, The Rocket, the big "bad boys" of Hoop, we NEED a spectacular story. And now it's a win-win for the NFL. If the Pats win..... 19 and 0, If the Giants win it will be the greatest upset since 1969 (another fix). Remember kids it's entertainment.
Read this quote... Look back at the last 6 weeks in this forum... And you will find posts like this about every team we've played on Sunday. Just insert your team. The result? Patriots are 18-0.

Heres your *
Patriots: 19-0*
* Greatest team in NFL History.
Ian

Grand Junction, CO

#6 Jan 22, 2008
Tom Coughlin? Likeable!?! I've never heard that one before
MRF

Cambridge, MA

#7 Jan 22, 2008
Mr Conspiracy wrote:
<quoted text>No there not America's team. I'm a GIANT fan and can tell you this was not the team the NFL wanted to play the "mighty" Pats. The Giants played well enough to beat the Pats in week 16. A penalty here, an offensive hold not called there, Brady gets the ball and throws to "push off" Moss and WA-LAH..... 16 and 0. We can beat these guys. Unfortunately with the way sports in general w/ Pac-man, The Rocket, the big "bad boys" of Hoop, we NEED a spectacular story. And now it's a win-win for the NFL. If the Pats win..... 19 and 0, If the Giants win it will be the greatest upset since 1969 (another fix). Remember kids it's entertainment.
TYPICAL NEWYORKER!.CYNICAL,SELF CENTERED,SORRY CAPTAIN,THERE HAVE BEEN 0 CHAMPIONSHIPS FOR PRO NEWYORK TEAMS THIS DECADE,AND I WOULDN'T BET THE HOUSE ON ONE BEING WON AFTER THIS SUPERBOWL GAME IF I WAS YOU.
Mr Conspiracy

Ridge, NY

#8 Jan 22, 2008
Raid wrote:
<quoted text>
Read this quote... Look back at the last 6 weeks in this forum... And you will find posts like this about every team we've played on Sunday. Just insert your team. The result? Patriots are 18-0.
Heres your *
Patriots: 19-0*
* Greatest team in NFL History.
Your showing your Massachussett's pasion for two great organizations. Just not the greatest. I'm also a NY Met fan and I still don't understand everytime I go to Boston and pop in for a few "Sammy's" at the FOURS, it dosen't bother you guys that WE BEAT YOU IN THE WORLD SERIES. With that said, my football passion is w/the Giants. Giant fans are just like the Red Sox fan. Traditional, and die hard. We are the underdog, we scored the most point against the Pats than any other team this year and YES we should have beat you. I think we have a great shot (as long as Bellichec isn't taping the Giant coaches and reading lips). And the reffing is fair.....Good luck
choke

Montgomery, AL

#9 Jan 22, 2008
New York will always be the cess pool of pro sports. Don't even try and drag the Pats into your sewer of filth.

Brady and Co have shown they are the real deal. Get off your hatin'....but then again, that would be asking too much of a New Yorker.
patsfan111111

Lady Lake, FL

#10 Jan 22, 2008
Mr Conspiracy wrote:
<quoted text>No there not America's team. I'm a GIANT fan and can tell you this was not the team the NFL wanted to play the "mighty" Pats. The Giants played well enough to beat the Pats in week 16. A penalty here, an offensive hold not called there, Brady gets the ball and throws to "push off" Moss and WA-LAH..... 16 and 0. We can beat these guys. Unfortunately with the way sports in general w/ Pac-man, The Rocket, the big "bad boys" of Hoop, we NEED a spectacular story. And now it's a win-win for the NFL. If the Pats win..... 19 and 0, If the Giants win it will be the greatest upset since 1969 (another fix). Remember kids it's entertainment.
your name suits you well. leave the conspiracy theories alone because its just a waste of time.
patsfan111111

Lady Lake, FL

#11 Jan 22, 2008
Mr Conspiracy wrote:
<quoted text> Your showing your Massachussett's pasion for two great organizations. Just not the greatest. I'm also a NY Met fan and I still don't understand everytime I go to Boston and pop in for a few "Sammy's" at the FOURS, it dosen't bother you guys that WE BEAT YOU IN THE WORLD SERIES. With that said, my football passion is w/the Giants. Giant fans are just like the Red Sox fan. Traditional, and die hard. We are the underdog, we scored the most point against the Pats than any other team this year and YES we should have beat you. I think we have a great shot (as long as Bellichec isn't taping the Giant coaches and reading lips). And the reffing is fair.....Good luck
shoulda woulda coulda didnt. why do people insist on living in the past? should have won isnt winning is it? no so get over it just like we got over losing to the mets 20+ years ago. typical new yorker. everytime the boston area brings up being happy we are winning in all our sports, new york says "oh yea well in 1960..or in 1980..or we have more.." well thats the past and real people remember it, but dont live in it. the yankees have choked for 7 straight years because their steroid era is over. people want to talk about tainted rings. when that many people get caught using steroids those rings should be taken away. at least what the pats did can be argued that its not a guarantee you will win. even if the video was illegal it doesnt mean you are automatically going to block a certain guy or hit an open hole at the right time or the receiver is going to make a perfect catch. with steroids you know every play in a game you have a tremendous advantage because you have strength you arent supposed to have. get over it new york its bostons time. if you want to talk about the past lets talk about the biggest choke in playoff history in 2004 by the yankees blowing a three game lead to the RED SOX to allow them to go to win their first championship in 86 years. i will refer to that and in my book that trumps all the other rings new york will ever get.
LDK

Cape Elizabeth, ME

#12 Jan 22, 2008
Please. The only people who could think THIS group headed by a Manning (all very hateable), Tom Coughlin and Jeremy Shockey are likeable are Yankee fans.
skidrow wilson

United States

#13 Jan 22, 2008
Mr Conspiracy wrote:
<quoted text> Your showing your Massachussett's pasion for two great organizations. We are the underdog, we scored the most point against the Pats than any other team this year and YES we should have beat you. I think we have a great shot (as long as Bellichec isn't taping the Giant coaches and reading lips). And the reffing is fair.....Good luck
...just 5 little comments for this mental midget...

1. "Passion" needs to be spelled correctly to be "understood"

2. You are "the underdog"...yes you are...10 and 6 will get you that moniker every time...

3. "We should have beat you"...must suck living in a "should have" world...

4. "I think we have a shot"...must suck living in an "I think" world as a non-thinker...

5. Luck is something "losers" need so take that 10 and 6 record along with your prayer books and hymnals to the big game...oh and good luck.
Reg

Waltham, MA

#14 Jan 22, 2008
Giants have played the Pats and have a good coach who will make sure the team will learn from their mistakes against the Patriots and play better this time. The only problem is the Pats have an even better coach who will have his team even more prepared in their reviews of their mistakes against the Giants. The game is in the warm weather, which means we should see more passes to Moss. Moss has had trouble catching the ball in the colder weather games, which is why we have seen the Pats go more to the running game in the last few weeks. An Viniteri field goal has been the difference in every SuperBowl the Pats have won. This time there is no Viniteri, but there is Moss, who will not miss a key catch with the SuperBowl on the line. So, this time, a 4-7 win for the Pats over the Giants is what we should expect. Forget about the ridiculous spread in the Vegas line. Unless one of the Giants players does or says something stupid in the next two weeks, the spread should narrow before game time.
itty bitty

Hephzibah, GA

#15 Jan 22, 2008
think I'll bet on the pats.....

even if tom teriffic is wearing a cast on his right foot.

he's always listed as probable anyway.
Mr Conspiracy

Ridge, NY

#16 Jan 22, 2008
skidrow wilson wrote:
<quoted text>
...just 5 little comments for this mental midget...
1. "Passion" needs to be spelled correctly to be "understood"
2. You are "the underdog"...yes you are...10 and 6 will get you that moniker every time...
3. "We should have beat you"...must suck living in a "should have" world...
4. "I think we have a shot"...must suck living in an "I think" world as a non-thinker...
5. Luck is something "losers" need so take that 10 and 6 record along with your prayer books and hymnals to the big game...oh and good luck.
Unfortunately i cut spelling class the day "passion" was the word of the day. Yes I think we have a shot. Do I think the Pats are a better team... yes I do. But based on the way the Giants played them last,and the way they're playing lately....I THINK THEY HAVE A SHOT. I'm sure you've never said such a silly sentence in your life.
Adam

Santa Clara, CA

#17 Jan 22, 2008
I'd rather watch my team go 0-16 with dignity than to see Randy Moss in their uniform. I think NE is finally reaping the rewards - I actually heard a commentator during the AFC championship game suggest that Moss's behavior is less distracting to the club than Tony Romo's. Football has sunk to an unbeleivable low when that type of logic can even be suggested. I've seen the Patriot's play several times this season and I think the suggestion that they are the best NFL team of all time is laughable, even if they were it's a shame for pro football that they can't do it with any dignity.
patsfan111111

Lady Lake, FL

#18 Jan 22, 2008
Adam wrote:
I'd rather watch my team go 0-16 with dignity than to see Randy Moss in their uniform. I think NE is finally reaping the rewards - I actually heard a commentator during the AFC championship game suggest that Moss's behavior is less distracting to the club than Tony Romo's. Football has sunk to an unbeleivable low when that type of logic can even be suggested. I've seen the Patriot's play several times this season and I think the suggestion that they are the best NFL team of all time is laughable, even if they were it's a shame for pro football that they can't do it with any dignity.
maybe you should put the paoti down. its sad that the country cares more about tony romo and his banging jessica simpson in mexico than the moss thing. first of all the tony romo thing IS true and the moss thing is an accusation by a girl who has ran out of golddigger money. if she was really beaten by moss she would want him in jail, not skipping the whole criminal court side and going straight to lawsuit. her timing is suspiciously off and for the record, guys dont just start beating women half way through their life. she also has admitted it is only a finger injury and ive never heard a woman claim to be beaten when thats the only injury. what you are doing is hearing what you want to hear so it sounds bad. what they are saying is the pats are the best at not letting off the field situations affect their play. its no different than if you were going through the same thing as moss but while you were at work it didnt affect you where you put your job in jeopardy. noone is saying its not a big deal, just that while moss is at work he is not being distracted and not allowing it to distract his team.
itty bitty

Hephzibah, GA

#19 Jan 22, 2008
Adam wrote:
I'd rather watch my team go 0-16 with dignity than to see Randy Moss in their uniform. I think NE is finally reaping the rewards - I actually heard a commentator during the AFC championship game suggest that Moss's behavior is less distracting to the club than Tony Romo's. Football has sunk to an unbeleivable low when that type of logic can even be suggested. I've seen the Patriot's play several times this season and I think the suggestion that they are the best NFL team of all time is laughable, even if they were it's a shame for pro football that they can't do it with any dignity.
If you was a dolphins fan
your wish almost came true.
Bill - Norfolk Mass

Londonderry, NH

#20 Jan 22, 2008
choke wrote:
New York will always be the cess pool of pro sports. Don't even try and drag the Pats into your sewer of filth.
Brady and Co have shown they are the real deal. Get off your hatin'....but then again, that would be asking too much of a New Yorker.
As a guy who moved here 12 years ago from New Jersey, I have to strongly disagree. I feel exactly the opposite. New England's support of the Red Sox goes beyond normal fan support. It permeates peoples lives in a way you don't see in NY, or probably anywhere else for that matter. It makes me wonder what these people have in their lives besides that silly team. I guess people in NY have more going on in their lives. Look at what happens in Boston when championships are won - cars are overturned, and worse, people die. This doesn't and hasn't happened in NY. I'm sorry if you think I'm trashing Boston. As I said, I've lived here 12 years and I actually prefer everything about the place to NY, except the sport fan mentality. It's sick. Other than that I love it here.
As for the Pats fans, it's much more of a bandwagon. When I moved here and the Pats weren't a factor, you could buy game tickets. You have to inherit Giants tickets. That's loyalty. And the fans don't commit vanadlism when they win.
I've always been a Giants fan, and always will. The Pats are the obvious favorites, but I think the G-men have a chance. Either way, I'll go on with my life. I shudder to think what will happen in the streets of Boston if the Pats do it.
skidrow wilson

United States

#21 Jan 22, 2008
Adam wrote:
I've seen the Patriot's play several times this season and I think the suggestion that they are the best NFL team of all time is laughable, even if they were it's a shame for pro football that they can't do it with any dignity.
...it's a shame you don't see things they way "actual" football critics do...

Bill Cowher
"When they've won, they've done it with humility and they've done it with class."
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Mar. 2006
"The great thing Belichick does is he figures it out. Somehow, he figures it out."
SI.com , Jan. 2005
"I have great respect for…how Bill has approached the game, how their football players, and him particularly throughout their success, have stayed very grounded and very focused.… I know I've grown watching Bill handle the success he's handled. A lot of times you can measure people by how they handle adversity, but I think a lot of it can be said by how they handle success.… They have a great way of keeping things in perspective."
MRF

Cambridge, MA

#22 Jan 22, 2008
Adam wrote:
I'd rather watch my team go 0-16 with dignity than to see Randy Moss in their uniform. I think NE is finally reaping the rewards - I actually heard a commentator during the AFC championship game suggest that Moss's behavior is less distracting to the club than Tony Romo's. Football has sunk to an unbeleivable low when that type of logic can even be suggested. I've seen the Patriot's play several times this season and I think the suggestion that they are the best NFL team of all time is laughable, even if they were it's a shame for pro football that they can't do it with any dignity.
adam put the crack pipe away! if the patriots in your words are ''laughable'',and they have beaten every team in the nfl,then your saying the teams in the nfl suck.
Raid

Worcester, MA

#23 Jan 22, 2008
Bill - Norfolk Mass wrote:
<quoted text>
As a guy who moved here 12 years ago from New Jersey, I have to strongly disagree. I feel exactly the opposite. New England's support of the Red Sox goes beyond normal fan support. It permeates peoples lives in a way you don't see in NY, or probably anywhere else for that matter. It makes me wonder what these people have in their lives besides that silly team. I guess people in NY have more going on in their lives. Look at what happens in Boston when championships are won - cars are overturned, and worse, people die. This doesn't and hasn't happened in NY. I'm sorry if you think I'm trashing Boston. As I said, I've lived here 12 years and I actually prefer everything about the place to NY, except the sport fan mentality. It's sick. Other than that I love it here.
As for the Pats fans, it's much more of a bandwagon. When I moved here and the Pats weren't a factor, you could buy game tickets. You have to inherit Giants tickets. That's loyalty. And the fans don't commit vanadlism when they win.
I've always been a Giants fan, and always will. The Pats are the obvious favorites, but I think the G-men have a chance. Either way, I'll go on with my life. I shudder to think what will happen in the streets of Boston if the Pats do it.
Dude... Put the crack pipe down, we had a few incidents here like every other city.

Remember when the Rangers won the cup?
Remember when Colorado won the cup?
Remember when Pitt won the Super Bowl?
etc...

You can say this about any City. Saying a few morons represent a city is like saying an American taliban terrorist represents America... Idiot.

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