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Ohio.com - Browns get picked, rolled over by Patriots

There are 36 comments on the Akron Beacon Journal story from Oct 8, 2007, titled Ohio.com - Browns get picked, rolled over by Patriots. In it, Akron Beacon Journal reports that:

FOXBOROUGH, MASS.: So much for shocking the world. A 161/2-point underdog, the Browns saw their hopes of stunning the undefeated New England Patriots practically dashed on their first possession when a drive to ...

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Pats Fan

Newton Upper Falls, MA

#21 Oct 8, 2007
Hey you guys out in Cleveland gave us a run for our money...certainly more so than any other team we have faced. I am %100 serious here.
You contained Moss, no one else has yet. You stopped the Pats in the Red Zone a few times (from touchdowns at least). You scored more points than any other team we have faced.
Where you went wrong was turnovers, 3 of which were tipped passes. Those are anyone's game. Take away those 14 points from those tipped passes and you have a 20-17 point game that would only have been won on the last fumble (which wouldn't have happened because you would be running the clock down). Essentialy we were outplayed.
Now take in mind I think the Pats played like crap but every team will have it's down day, we just got real real lucky. They are still my team win or lose.
All in all I was very impressed with your team. I understand how it feels to lose but you guys will be a force in a few years, maybe even the 2nd half of the season. Good Luck (at least until we meet again).
Old Man Grump

Canton, OH

#22 Oct 8, 2007
Browns Fan in DC wrote:
Grump..it really doesn't matter what the Steelers do..they can't beat Indy or New England. So, enjoy your one and out in the playoffs. I will. I'll also enjoy watching these Browns mature and thrash the Steelers annually over the next few years. Enjoy their resurgence, I assure you it will be brief.
Browns Fan in DC - Enjoy the Browns finishing last in your conference and giving the 1 overall draft pick to Dallas. Romeo isn't even smart enough tom play Brady Quinn, and you think they will get better over time? dream on sucker.
Patsfan1

Chesapeake, VA

#23 Oct 8, 2007
Congrats Browns Fans!!! Your team played with more heart than any other team the Pats have faced this year. It would not surprise me to see the Browns in the playoffs this year.
Ed E

AOL

#24 Oct 8, 2007
Ron Faieta wrote:
Old Man Grump, a supposed Steeler fan who not only reads about the Browns but each week is the 1st responder with something negative to say about the Browns...
A real Steeler fan would be wrapped up in his teams' victory, talking in a Steeler forum with other Steeler fans...
Old Man you're a phoney, an inbred and probably a miserable person with bad breath and a fat wife...
Damn, I'm glad I'm not you... What a pathetic person!!!!
Well said Ron. The Steelers are a great team with even greater owners. Pittsburgh, PA has every reason to be proud. Steelers fans in Ohio are a different matter. We (Browns fans) had our team ripped away from us in the mid 90's only to see them win a Superbowl thereafter. The Rooneys are the only owners who voted against Modell and as a Browns fan, I'll not forget it. I personally have about as much respect for fair weather Browns fans that have "rolled over" to the Steelers as PA based Steelers fans do. It's easier to cheer for "your" champs than stick it out with the rest of us who still are proud of our teams, no matter how bad they currently are.
Vintage74

Cleveland, OH

#25 Oct 8, 2007
Pats Fan wrote:
Hey you guys out in Cleveland gave us a run for our money...certainly more so than any other team we have faced. I am %100 serious here.
You contained Moss, no one else has yet. You stopped the Pats in the Red Zone a few times (from touchdowns at least). You scored more points than any other team we have faced.
Where you went wrong was turnovers, 3 of which were tipped passes. Those are anyone's game. Take away those 14 points from those tipped passes and you have a 20-17 point game that would only have been won on the last fumble (which wouldn't have happened because you would be running the clock down). Essentialy we were outplayed.
Now take in mind I think the Pats played like crap but every team will have it's down day, we just got real real lucky. They are still my team win or lose.
All in all I was very impressed with your team. I understand how it feels to lose but you guys will be a force in a few years, maybe even the 2nd half of the season. Good Luck (at least until we meet again).
STFU dude...we don't need your pitty. Go eat a bowl of clam chowder.
Vinman From Hawaii

United States

#26 Oct 8, 2007
Browns are a spotty team who will get better as the season continues. The people that come in here in their "hate-mode" are just sad lonely people.

We're improving...that is the bottom line.

The Steelers sucked for 30 years. But their fans stayed with them and their class owners. It wasn't until Knoll came along that they really turned thing around. And that didn't happen over night.

We'll be back in the hunt for the playoffs and to one day add a "SuperBowl" ring to our eight championships.

The BROWNS are a good team that WILL get better!
Browns Fan in DC

Arlington, VA

#27 Oct 8, 2007
Old Man Grump wrote:
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Browns Fan in DC - Enjoy the Browns finishing last in your conference and giving the 1 overall draft pick to Dallas. Romeo isn't even smart enough tom play Brady Quinn, and you think they will get better over time? dream on sucker.
Please..the Browns are not going to finish with the worst record in the NFL. Dallas will probably get a top 10 pick but so what...Quinn's probably worth that. And Romeo's smart NOT to force him in there right away. Anderson has been capable. As some Pats fans said, we gave them a tough game...who'd have thought that was possible? I can't wait to see what the Pats do to "your (as of 5 weeks ago)" Steelers on Dec. 9th. At least the Browns are building..the Steelers look like the same "not good enough" team they've been the last couple of years after their Superbowl. There is no dynasty there. The glory years died in the 70's with disco for "your" boys.
DrunkPunkRockerG rump

Anaheim, CA

#28 Oct 8, 2007
browns? who dat?
Pats Fan

Newton Upper Falls, MA

#29 Oct 8, 2007
Vintage74 wrote:
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STFU dude...we don't need your pitty. Go eat a bowl of clam chowder.
Clam chowda is great.
You might wanna work on ya vanacula.

Since: Aug 07

Aiken, SC

#30 Oct 9, 2007
Vintage74 wrote:
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STFU dude...we don't need your pitty. Go eat a bowl of clam chowder.
You, sir, are an ass - as classless as Steinbach says Vrabel's hit was. I suspect the only vintage '74 you have going on is the underwear you haven't changed for 33 years.

That Pats fan pointed out that the Browns did just what I said they would - give the Pats their best competition so far this year.

Go eat some happy pills or something.
Vintage74

Cleveland, OH

#31 Oct 9, 2007
Ahhh Blow me Bob...is that your name or what you do?

First off I wasn't too disappointed with how the Browns played. I thought they sacked up pretty well against the Pats.

What I don't need is some bleeding heart Pats Fan on our forum telling me things that I already know. He can go spew his crap on a boston forum. The guy is probably from Cleveland, moved to Boston, and started rooting for the Pats when they started winning superbowls.

You know what. I am an ass and I really don't care.

PS. Pats Fan- THE PATS SUCK! THE CELTICS SUCK! THE RED SOX SUCK!

I don't care if they win 90% of the time. They still suck and I take pleasure when they lose! So you can go eat that chowda (after I drop a load of special sauce in it)!
The Nightfly

Columbus, OH

#32 Oct 9, 2007
mrreferee wrote:
Why in the world are we passing the ball on 2nd and goal from the 3 inch line? That is on the coaches for calling such a bad play. Anderson is good enough to tease us and then pull the rug away. We need to move to Quinn sooner than later.
Because it was 3rd down, not 2nd. 1st down was incomplete fade pass to Jurevicius (these never work), 2nd down was Metcalf...errr...Wright up the middle (same play that has failed in that situation a million times already), so 3rd down they had to pass. And instead of running something creative, they ran a straight drop-back pass play, Anderson was flushed, panicked and tried to force it in. Same old, same old from first and goal from the 1 or 2 yard line. Any bets as to whether Quinn might have got them in the end zone in that situation? Pitiful.
The Nightfly

Columbus, OH

#33 Oct 9, 2007
Haven't seen any mention of the 3rd down pass that Winslow should have caught (possibly for a touchdown) late in the 3rd quarter, but short-armed it and didn't even get a finger on the ball. At first glance, it looked like just another bad throw from D.A., but replays clearly showed that he led K2 perfectly - all he had to do was reach about another 8 inches for the catch and he may have taken it to the end zone. Looked like he just completely misjudged it. They had to settle for a FG to make it 20-3. In Winlow's defense, maybe he was anticipating the usual throw behind him and was shocked that a Browns QB actually led him with a pass. Anyway, I thought this was another big momentum killer, but saw no mention of it in the press.
Mike

San Diego, CA

#34 Oct 9, 2007
The Pats had the Browns outgunned. We all pretty much knew that. And yet, despite getting 3 snags off of our QB, all the pats could manage was a 17 point lead.

Peter King said it best.... the Browns aren't pushovers.

Yeah, the Browns were outmatched.... but man, they didn't do half-bad. Hell, they did better than any of the other teams the Pats have faced to date.

I get a feeling that, by the end of the season, a lot of people will be looking back at this past game and will all collectively be looking at this team with different eyes.

On a side note.... REALLY happy to see the O-Line gang up on Vrabel for his worthless cheap shot. To see the O-line take offense to the cheapshot on their teammate like that.... gives me some hope that this O-line really is starting to take a "WE" mentality.

This team has a way to go..... but it was nice seeing them not crumple like in game one. It's an improvement.
Vintage74

Cleveland, OH

#35 Oct 9, 2007
No kidding Mike. Can you believe we have an OL with some depth on it. And it's only going to get deeper. Not to mention all the Key players on the OL are Locked up for at least the next 3 years!

Can you say Michael Turner?(if JL doesn't work out for a couple more years, he just might)!
Mike

San Diego, CA

#36 Oct 9, 2007
Vintage74 wrote:
No kidding Mike. Can you believe we have an OL with some depth on it. And it's only going to get deeper. Not to mention all the Key players on the OL are Locked up for at least the next 3 years!
Can you say Michael Turner?(if JL doesn't work out for a couple more years, he just might)!
I live out here in San Diego and honestly, I wouldn't want Turner.... not without having Lewis available also. Turner is also going to cost BIG BUCKS..... they're already touting him at going for $7 mil a year.

Browns are best served looking to the draft. Plenty of young kids that should be available in the second round or so.

Some key kids that I think the Browns should keep a close eye on......

RB Stewart, Oregon ..... Kid benches 450 and has a great set of wheels.....

RB Slaton, West Virginia ..... He's not in ESPN's top 32 and with West Virginia's slide.... who knows!?

RB Jones, Arkansas ...... he's the other Arkansas RB and has performed almost as well as McFadden.

I honestly wouldn't bother with Turner though. I've seen enough of him out here in San Diego and I'm not buying into the hype. Give him 20 carries a game and he'll wear down quickly. He works for San Diego because of Tomlinson's presence. When LT leaves the game and they switch out, a lot of teams really don't seem to play to the run then. That and he has never carried for more than 13 attempts in a game.

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