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Ravens Pro Bowl left offensive tackle Jonathan Ogden should retire. It's not that Ogden can't play at a high level anymore. Full Story
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Chi Chi

Towson, MD

#1 Jan 30, 2008
Can you honestly describe "the best ever" at his craft like this:
"Ogden has never liked to work out in the offseason. He is one of those freaks of nature who was just bigger, stronger and faster than anyone else on a football field."
Tiger Woods, Michael Jordan, Ray Lewis...they're also physically gifted, but work their butts off and have an incredible passion for winning. Ogden lived solely off his size. He never made anyone around him better and never did 1% more than he had to. Did you ever see him blocking 10 yards downfield? Could we run at will behind him in goal-line/short-yardage situations?
The injuries he suffered in later tears (especially the hamstring) are related to his lack of a work ethic -- if you don't work out and try to play a sport, you're going to get hurt. You'd think "the best ever" would know that.
Bob O

Ellicott City, MD

#2 Jan 30, 2008
Best lineman ever? You've got to be kidding!
dburns

Washington, DC

#3 Jan 30, 2008
All of the chatter about how hard the man works is silly. The NFL will eat alive ANYONE who "just shows up." So the guess here is that J.O. worked hard without making a big deal of it. The real question is whether he'll read this thinly veiled challenge to his manhood and decide to come out next year just to shut you up. If so, then this column might have been worth reading.
Chris

Bel Air, MD

#4 Jan 30, 2008
Chi Chi wrote:
Can you honestly describe "the best ever" at his craft like this:
"Ogden has never liked to work out in the offseason. He is one of those freaks of nature who was just bigger, stronger and faster than anyone else on a football field."
Tiger Woods, Michael Jordan, Ray Lewis...they're also physically gifted, but work their butts off and have an incredible passion for winning. Ogden lived solely off his size. He never made anyone around him better and never did 1% more than he had to. Did you ever see him blocking 10 yards downfield? Could we run at will behind him in goal-line/short-yardage situations?
The injuries he suffered in later tears (especially the hamstring) are related to his lack of a work ethic -- if you don't work out and try to play a sport, you're going to get hurt. You'd think "the best ever" would know that.
i have seen him block 10, 15, 20 yards down field, after blocking, one or two other people. ask jamal lewis if he felt comfortable running behind him when he was here. Ogden has achieved a level of greatness at his craft that will not soon be surpassed. anyone that believes that was accomplished by just "walking onto the field" is as much a fool as the one who criticizes a person who made something that none of us reading this could ever dream of doing look easy. jealousy comes in all forms.
as for mr. preston, maybe it would be best if YOU retired. let the people who have paid their dues with blood, sweat, and pain make there own decisions. he has more than earned that right.
Tone

Arlington, VA

#5 Jan 30, 2008
chi chi STFU! you make no sense
Dixiechick

United States

#6 Jan 30, 2008
Yawn...
SellPete

Malvern, PA

#7 Jan 30, 2008
Mike, if I didn't know better, I'd think you were applying a little taunting and reverse psychology on JO?
RavenKen

Fallston, MD

#8 Jan 30, 2008
I don't know Mike. I think JO is smart enough to know that Billick ball was no where ball. I would still like him back but only if he is well enough to play. There are way to many upsides to have him back on the team.

“Displaced Raven Fan”

Since: Sep 07

Silver Spring,Md

#9 Jan 30, 2008
He should return only if HE wants to return.
Ben

Baltimore, MD

#10 Jan 30, 2008
Chi Chi,
Yes the best player ever might not have to work on his game very much because he is a natural. Just look at the film - he was awesome!!!

I hope Ogden comes back but only if he wants too, if his heart isn't in it anymore, he should retire.
BOB

Berlin, MD

#11 Jan 30, 2008
Every Dog has its day..........and JO's days are over. Bring in the new, young guys to work and "gel" together as an Offensive "UNIT".
larry g

Baltimore, MD

#12 Jan 30, 2008
he'll be back , he likes the attention
Utah Duane

Evanston, WY

#13 Jan 30, 2008
Mike why don't you see if the Sun will let you write about "Better Homes and Gardens" or something like that. Your articles just get worse everyday.
Greg

Charlottesville, VA

#14 Jan 30, 2008
I hope JO comes back! We need his leadership on the line. I'll take someone with solid character and being better than 90% of the other tackles in the league any day for the Ravens. You guys need to stop taking Mr. Preston so seriously. He is a reporter with a deadline to fill space in the sporting section of the newspaper. He has to write about something. His tone is more positive than Cowherd's tone was when he helped drive the Colts out of town.
Dave MacMickey

Providence, RI

#15 Jan 30, 2008
This article is contradictory, or at least Ogden is. He's a perfectionist but unwilling to train in the offseason?

Maybe it was just a bad word choice by you Mike. Or maybe its just another one of your "great" pieces of journalism

The reality is Ogden doesn't have "it" anymore. Last year he blew assignments, sometimes seemingly on purpose, was poorly conditioned, and really only played through injury when Billick mentioned they would consider IR'ing him.

Add that to the fact that my own "inside sources" tell me that he hate playing for white quarterbacks.

His heart isn't in it. Neither is his body. And I don't think any of it has to do with his being a perfectionist. Actually, I think its quite the opposite.
Bmore

Woodbridge, VA

#16 Jan 30, 2008
I agree, JO is the best limen of this era (the best I have ever seen play) and maybe the best of all time...and to think he didnt work hard is a joke, yes the man, has God given talents, but he busted his butt off for this team. His only weakness, was his horrible Gebco commercials....JO now is still better than 80% of the linemen today, i think his problem is he set the bar too high, and he cant live up to it anymore, bc of age only. So I say, thank you JO, for what you done for this team and city, and you should walk off while you still can.
Rich

United States

#17 Jan 30, 2008
What does he have to come back for? If he had anything inside of him he'd want to come back to help this team (who paid him multimilloins of dollars) develop an offense. Oh he might have to work a little harder. To friggin bad. He laid out most of last season. Not his first. Take your millions and hit the road. You were a drag the whole time you were here. You helped produce 0 offense. Either sign now or shut up.
Take the family and leave. We will be fine either with you or without you. We need positive football here in Baltimore. Are you up for good positive football or are you a QUITTER. Wake up we need the answer now!
Rich

United States

#18 Jan 30, 2008
Chi Chi wrote:
Can you honestly describe "the best ever" at his craft like this:
"Ogden has never liked to work out in the offseason. He is one of those freaks of nature who was just bigger, stronger and faster than anyone else on a football field."
Tiger Woods, Michael Jordan, Ray Lewis...they're also physically gifted, but work their butts off and have an incredible passion for winning. Ogden lived solely off his size. He never made anyone around him better and never did 1% more than he had to. Did you ever see him blocking 10 yards downfield? Could we run at will behind him in goal-line/short-yardage situations?
The injuries he suffered in later tears (especially the hamstring) are related to his lack of a work ethic -- if you don't work out and try to play a sport, you're going to get hurt. You'd think "the best ever" would know that.
Well said.
murph

Boca Raton, FL

#19 Jan 30, 2008
I agree with JO when he says it matters which offense he is playing . It is frustrating for the players to play that unproductive system that rule changes have made wide open offenses the way to the party. Recently, a miami paper compare the statistics of Wes Walker with the dolphins and now the patriot. You can't do this--I'm reminded what Marino said about the great jerry rice. There are a lot of good receivers in the league that are comparable to Rice- the difference is that he had Montana and Young throwing to him, just like Unitas made Berry all world. JO is all world but if he had a good offense with him he could have been even better So I can understand his frustration-- good luuck--JO
Prestonneeds2ret ire

Unionville, MD

#20 Jan 30, 2008
Ogden blocked 3 guys on Musa's long run vs the Steelers. Name 1 other lineman you ever saw do that. Moron. You need to work harder at watching film so you don't sound like an idiot when you evaluate football players.

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