Left tackle still a hole for Ravens

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Former Sun Sportswriter

Cockeysville, MD

#1 Apr 27, 2008
My God, after all these years, you finally got something right.
jeremiah

Baltimore, MD

#2 Apr 27, 2008
I am not convinced J.O. is done, but Terry and Gaither may not be Ogden, but they are not a hole.

Terry has looked decent most of the time he was playing LT. Most of his struggles came trying to switch to RT.

Gaither is only 22, but look at the guy. He is freaking huge and as agile as a young J.O.. The way the tackles came off the board in this draft, there is no doubt in my mind he would have been a first round pick.

Gaither will have the advantage of a full season of NFL conditioning and coaching over all the prospects, and is younger than most of them.

Yanda played pretty well for a rookie RT. He can only get better with some competion.

I was more suprised they did not adress TE depth than T.
charlie

Catonsville, MD

#3 Apr 27, 2008
i don't understand why we have given up on adam terry and jerrod gaither for the left tackle spot. there were no true john ogden type tackles in this draft, and reaching will just put a log jam at that position. we have a new coaching staff that may actually have a clue what to do to stop opposing defenses from tying their ears back and just rushing kyle boller. just the 2 starts with troy slowed that rush down as he has escapability. when we take some of the pressure off the o-line by staying with the running game when it is obviously working and putting the defenses we face on their heals with a real game plan, these guys just might turn out to be a very good offensive line. besides why reach for guys when there are none available-the dolphins took a right tackle with the 1st pick and the rest of the guys were also projects.
Ben

Philadelphia, PA

#4 Apr 27, 2008
No Billick = better line play
Ronnie

Glen Burnie, MD

#5 Apr 27, 2008
I agree Jeremiah, I'm not sold JO is done either. I originally thought he was but the last few times he has said anything in the press he has said if he is healthy he wants to play. I think he might have even said he could play two or three years. If he comes back I think we compete for a playoff spot. If he doesn't I still like our line even though they are young but I doubt we compete for the playoffs. We'll be competitve but probably around .500 is realistic. I think Flacco sits this year and Boller starts. One of the guys on ESPN said he has heard Boller is looking good in minicamp. I'm confident after seeing the new coaching staff and players that the Ravens have a bright future. The only bad thing is we have to wait 4 months til the first game. Go Ravens!
Kevin

Gwynn Oak, MD

#6 Apr 27, 2008
your comment about adam terry being here 3 years and not grabing the poistion does not mean he is not a good left tackle. No one would have grabbed the position with a future hall of fame player at that spot. Terry was a second round pick who has done well at left tackle when filling in for ogden. We have to come to realize we will not have a hall of fame left tackle around all the time. Terry is adequate and gaither has promise, and with a good all around team, that should be enough.
dyno don

Cypress, TX

#7 Apr 27, 2008
LT COULD be a problem, but C could be even worse. We have NO ONE with NFL experince at that position.

Chester has shown very little sign that he can play ANY OL position in the NFL, and moving Brown there leaves a hole at G.
eddie

Dundalk, MD

#8 Apr 27, 2008
You are correct but there is on thing that you forgot to mention, Flacco will play only sparingly for 1 year while he learns not only the NFL reads but how to take a ball from under the center and read defenses as well- something he did rarely in college-- therfore, next year in the draft we will be able to get his left OT he will need when he plays his first real year. This year is our transition year and again we will waste the remaining years of Lewis and the aging D- this is Billick's parting shot.
Logan

San Francisco, CA

#9 Apr 27, 2008
David, you wrote "If so, the candidates are: Adam Terry, who has yet to snatch the job in his three years here."

You're holding it against Adam that he couldn't steal the starting job from a HALL OF FAMER? Don't you think that's a little unfair?
Marcus

Henniker, NH

#12 Apr 27, 2008
LT is not a hole, we have Gaither and Terry could fill in at LT short term if Gaither is not ready. Physically, Gaither is a protypical LT we just have to see if he can do it on a consistent basis.
Marcus

Henniker, NH

#13 Apr 27, 2008
I agree that center could be an issue though, we picked up guys who could be RT's but no one who can play center.
Discodanford

Halethorpe, MD

#14 Apr 27, 2008
Ben wrote:
No Billick = better line play
What you could say is good OC (Cameron)= better OL play. It always seemed like the Ravens would try to run until it started to work and then pass or vice versa. The hope is that Cameron will bring a proven offensive mind to the offense and and everyone will know what the first, second and third options are. In the good old days it was option 1 and then ?? If nothing else Boller has always shown that he is one tough dude and I suspect that the pressure from Flacco will be good for him and Smith. Boller's "competitions" with Redman and McNair were rigged so this is his first chance to lose his livelihood. Smith may wind up going somewhere else, unfortunately.
Ed Lulie

Frederick, MD

#15 Apr 27, 2008
I agree that the o-line has been a problem,. and Brian Billick didn't ever seem to notice his QBs took a huge beating every week.
What do you say we give Coach Harbaugh the benefit of the doubt; that he can actually see what us fans do, that the QB needs an O-line to survive....?
We got a promising QB, linemen, a CB (traded for him a first round 2005 draft pick) a safety, a wr,...
Who knows what else will appear in the next two months...
I do know this, we may stink, we may lose,,but it will probably be a heck of a lot more fun to watch than ever before.
And who knows..we just might win..
Brian

Baltimore, MD

#16 Apr 27, 2008
David Steele is a idiot . The Ravens offensive line is fine . You had both starting tackles go down last year ( Ogden and Terry ) and two rookies - Yanda and Gaither stepped in and did a good job . Also Ben Grubbs started . Three rookies started for the Ravens last year on the offensive line . Now they have a year of conditioning under their belt . I would think Ozzie knows more about what is going on than Steele . Steele is so negative , I wish he would go back to where he came from . Baltimore reporters are not like the old days , when they supported the home teams . Radio and papers are so negative towards the Orioles and the Ravens now .
ed from park heights

Frederick, MD

#17 Apr 27, 2008
leave it to the Steele deal to bitch about the draft. When the majority of left tackles came off the board before 20 how did you suppose we were going to find another. your comment about adam terry is plain stupid. did you expect him to grab the job from JO. btw - when terry has played the left side he has done a good job. right side is not his deal. and for potential, jared gaither is better than anything we could have gotten in the second round or later. this is essentially his rookie year since it was a this year 5th round pick that we gave up. think about what you write before you put it down. you come off sounding petulant and unknowledgeable. Other than that the article was just great.
cesar

Upper Marlboro, MD

#18 Apr 27, 2008
I think they can move Brown to C, Grubbs to LG, Yanda to RG, Gaither as RT and Terry at LT.
dyno don wrote:
LT COULD be a problem, but C could be even worse. We have NO ONE with NFL experince at that position.
Chester has shown very little sign that he can play ANY OL position in the NFL, and moving Brown there leaves a hole at G.
Bdub

Jamaica, NY

#19 Apr 27, 2008
This is just bad information? Because in this years draft Jared Gaither was slated to be a potential top 10 pick and a higher rated player than Ryan Clady and Chris Williams. We HAVE our future LT in Gaither and you say well he's young and inexperienced but then what do you think we were going to get with a guy we draft in the second day or even with Clady or Williams. The run on tackles was already finished two rounds earlier and even still we didn't need those guys because we have a guy who was a better prospect then all of them outside of Jake Long. Its funny you mention the QBs blind side but if you were to look deeper you would realize that most good QBs also have good centers. We haven't a proven center and Chester has been a project so far and is maybe one bad year away from being a bust in my opinion. I think in this draft we should have addressed the center position and that is a way bigger need than left tackle. But you can continue to think like the other media sources and overhype a position that currently has two solid options, one of which that could develop into a John Ogden 2.0.
Offense

Alexandria, VA

#20 Apr 27, 2008
1) Our offense will be better simply because Billick is gone.

2) Smith/Boller behind the best pass protection would take us nowhere.

Since: Nov 07

Baltimore, MD

#22 Apr 28, 2008
dyno don wrote:
LT COULD be a problem, but C could be even worse. We have NO ONE with NFL experince at that position.
Chester has shown very little sign that he can play ANY OL position in the NFL, and moving Brown there leaves a hole at G.
Spot on, Double D. And there were centers in this draft to be had. But instead, we went for a slew of Special Teamers. One of the weak spots of this draft, IMO.

Since: Feb 08

United States

#23 Apr 28, 2008
2 Things:
Brian Billick coached the team for a number of years, and they won a Superbowl under him.
Brian Billick drafted Kyle Boller on measureables such as arm stength and size.

He was not a bad OVERALL coach, he just became to enamered with his #1 pick. The lesson to be learned is that for all the physical stuff, when it comes to QB, success is more predicated on things you can't measure with a yard stick.
It dosen't matter as much what you do when things are going well as much as when things are going bad. Everybody knows if you surround a QB with 10 all pros he can be successful. That is totally unrealistic, especially for more than one magical season. Teams that win and participate in the playoffs annually, have QB's who perform well when the chips are down as much as when there not. Being happy with Boller at QB is like being happy that you taped a leaky pipe with with electrical tape. It will slow the leak but it won't fix the leak. The pipes been leaking for 8 years- FIX THE DAMN LEAK!!!

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