Packers top Bears for fifth straight win

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Ryan Grant ran for 137 yards and a pair of touchdowns, leading the Green Bay Packers to their fifth straight win and a season sweep of the Chicago Bears with a 21-14 victory at Soldier Field. Read more
Reality

Kansas City, MO

#1 Dec 13, 2009
I think the bad call on Jennings TD catch kind of set the tone. I wonder if Mike Pereira will admit the refs got it wrong, even after the flag was thrown. The Packers have a tendency to play down to the level of their competition. Hope we play for 4 quarters against the Steelers. 10-4 would be nice.
Jeremy

Barney, ND

#3 Dec 13, 2009
Reality wrote:
I think the bad call on Jennings TD catch kind of set the tone. I wonder if Mike Pereira will admit the refs got it wrong, even after the flag was thrown. The Packers have a tendency to play down to the level of their competition. Hope we play for 4 quarters against the Steelers. 10-4 would be nice.
Most divisional rivalry games are tight, you can throw the records out when these two play. Good win, even though the Pack played not so well, that is a sign of a good team to come back from adversity. Ryan Grant and the O-line looked good again today, and nice play calling by MM.
wal0645

Yorktown, VA

#4 Dec 13, 2009
Gave up two sacks today, so that is a good trend for the offensive line. When you add the yardage Grant got and the solid defense it explains how good this team is playing right now. Rodgers didn't throw a TD and we still won....I guess all that talk about replacing TT/MM has been all but eliminated. Oh well!!!!
GBPfan

Fountain, CO

#5 Dec 14, 2009
wal0645 wrote:
Gave up two sacks today, so that is a good trend for the offensive line. When you add the yardage Grant got and the solid defense it explains how good this team is playing right now. Rodgers didn't throw a TD and we still won....I guess all that talk about replacing TT/MM has been all but eliminated. Oh well!!!!
Thanks wal, I always look forward to your comments about TT where they don't belong. I don't like to raise the issue unless someone else brings it up, but since you did:

When will people simply see Ted Thompson for what he really is -- a mediocre GM at best. Every Packer fan is excited about the Packers recent win streak and playoff hopes, but don't get carried away. Five years ago the Packers fired a GM for ONLY getting the Packers to the playoffs 4 straight years (winning the division the last 3) and most were okay with that, at least in part, because we had high expectations for our team. TT has lowered expectations to the point that some people act like earning a wildcard spot (as 5th or 6th seed on the NFC side of the playoffs) is a great accomplishment. It is less than true fans should expect. There is nothing wrong with wanting the Packers to win the Division. TT is 40-37 with 1 division title in 5 years. Any Packer fan that doesn't want the Packers to hire someone that can do better, is not really a Packer fan. I'm sure the Vikings (and their fans) will be very happy if the Packers fail to look for a better GM.
wal0645

Yorktown, VA

#6 Dec 14, 2009
We may see the Vikings again this year; who knows. There are two things that stand out now which makes that an interesting match up should it happen; our offensive line is doing a better job in their pass protection and our defense has gotten better with both Brad Jones and Tramon Williams making it a stronger, faster unit. As for TT, most fans measure him during the MM tenure and really forget about TT/lame duck Sherman. What is the TT/MM record...8-8,13-3-6-10, and 9-4 right now. Most fans feel we've crossed over the Favre bridge now, and the future looks very bright on the other side.
Brooks

Waukegan, IL

#7 Dec 14, 2009
GBPfan wrote:
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Thanks wal, I always look forward to your comments about TT where they don't belong. I don't like to raise the issue unless someone else brings it up, but since you did:
When will people simply see Ted Thompson for what he really is -- a mediocre GM at best. Every Packer fan is excited about the Packers recent win streak and playoff hopes, but don't get carried away. Five years ago the Packers fired a GM for ONLY getting the Packers to the playoffs 4 straight years (winning the division the last 3) and most were okay with that, at least in part, because we had high expectations for our team. TT has lowered expectations to the point that some people act like earning a wildcard spot (as 5th or 6th seed on the NFC side of the playoffs) is a great accomplishment. It is less than true fans should expect. There is nothing wrong with wanting the Packers to win the Division. TT is 40-37 with 1 division title in 5 years. Any Packer fan that doesn't want the Packers to hire someone that can do better, is not really a Packer fan. I'm sure the Vikings (and their fans) will be very happy if the Packers fail to look for a better GM.
That is avery good point but I see TT as a good GM. MM has been the problem; if he can't learn from his mistakes he will have to go.
GBPfan

Fountain, CO

#8 Dec 14, 2009
wal0645 wrote:
We may see the Vikings again this year; who knows. There are two things that stand out now which makes that an interesting match up should it happen; our offensive line is doing a better job in their pass protection and our defense has gotten better with both Brad Jones and Tramon Williams making it a stronger, faster unit. As for TT, most fans measure him during the MM tenure and really forget about TT/lame duck Sherman. What is the TT/MM record...8-8,13-3-6-10, and 9-4 right now. Most fans feel we've crossed over the Favre bridge now, and the future looks very bright on the other side.
Until the Packers got Clifton and Tauscher (the 10 year vets) back, TT and his crap line were taking the Packers down like a rock. Favre has nothing to do with Ted Thompson being a failure. TT was a poor GM while Favre played for the Packers and now he is keeping Rodgers from any real success. Tauscher, Clifton, Woodson, Harris, Kampman and Driver won't play forever. We know TT can't fill in talent more quickly than it ages or leaves. 40-37 and only one division title prove that.

BTW stop being such a geek about being a wildcard playoff team. You remind me of a Viking fan. As a Packer fan you should act like your team has been to the top before. Only nerds and Viking fans get excited about merely making the playoffs. Correction, only nerds, Viking fans and TT lovers get excited about merely making the playoffs.
eric

Monroe, WI

#9 Dec 14, 2009
One point it was Ted who brought Woodson in to Greenbay GBPfan.
Cant replace Driver,well Ted signed Jennings,although you are right the oline got real solid after Clifton and Tauscher showed up from injuries ect and those 2 will be hard to replace and as far as keeping Rodgers from real success,well hes done a heck of a job so far and because the packers going 11-5 12-4 and getting a WC because Minn went 13-3 or 14-2 ect doesn't make a GM bad or isn't a shame Packer fans are excited about being in the Playoffs,it matters what you do when you get there and that remains to be seen.
Brooks

Bloomington, IN

#10 Dec 14, 2009
GBPfan wrote:
<quoted text>
Until the Packers got Clifton and Tauscher (the 10 year vets) back, TT and his crap line were taking the Packers down like a rock. Favre has nothing to do with Ted Thompson being a failure. TT was a poor GM while Favre played for the Packers and now he is keeping Rodgers from any real success. Tauscher, Clifton, Woodson, Harris, Kampman and Driver won't play forever. We know TT can't fill in talent more quickly than it ages or leaves. 40-37 and only one division title prove that.
BTW stop being such a geek about being a wildcard playoff team. You remind me of a Viking fan. As a Packer fan you should act like your team has been to the top before. Only nerds and Viking fans get excited about merely making the playoffs. Correction, only nerds, Viking fans and TT lovers get excited about merely making the playoffs.
I just wnat to know why we got rid of Moll; he seemed to do well after Tausch went down. We need to draft O-line, D-line, safty and corner in that order.
wal0645

Yorktown, VA

#11 Dec 14, 2009
I see TT's record in terms of 36-27 excluding the playoff games in 2007, but really does it matter right now. The teams is playing well and appears to be heading toward another playoff run which is the 2nd time in MM's four years on the job. More importantly is the team has turned the corner I feel after #4 and should remain in contention most years upcoming. So exactly how does this happen after many years of success under Favre's leadership? You basically rebuild the team which for many organizations takes years to happen. For us; we were fortunate and made the transition a lot sooner. You have to have a plan, a strategic plan to accomplish those objectives. You also need a little luck.....like having a Rodgers fall in the draft until you pick late middle. Sure TT/MM don't have all the pieces yet and the tackles are a mess, but we are getting very close to having a complete team.
GBPfan

Fountain, CO

#12 Dec 14, 2009
Rebuild? What are you saying? That the Packers sucked after TT became GM? They didn't before, so why the need to rebuild starting three years before Favre left? And since then the Packers haven't missed a beat at the QB position. Only a crap GM would be rebuilding. So apparently you agree with me wal.
normallylikeyell ow

United States

#13 Dec 15, 2009
Who rebuilds after going 13-3? We do. But that argument aside, I think Reality makes a great point, which is that putting together 4 solid quarters would be the next step for the current Pack. We seem to play a bad quarter every game and let the other team back in--or in the Vikings case--get us down. The Steelers MUST win. We are going to have to grind this out.

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