Vikings facing big holes on defensive...

Vikings facing big holes on defensive line next season

There are 95 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Feb 8, 2011, titled Vikings facing big holes on defensive line next season. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

The latest developments in the StarCaps case, coupled with free agency, could leave the Vikings' defensive line with one returning starter - end Jared Allen - in the lineup on opening day next season.

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charlie

Duluth, MN

#1 Feb 8, 2011
Well, isn't this article just a ray of friggin' sunshine! Let's build 'em a stadium!

Not.
KCVikingFan

United States

#3 Feb 8, 2011
And this is news why? How about a good article on why it would be a smart move to convince the Bengals to trade their QB for our number 12 overall pick? Carson Palmer and AP? Then draft a defensive line for a playoff run. This isn't rocket science folks.
Code3gt

Santa Rosa, CA

#4 Feb 8, 2011
Carson Palmer is washed up and couldn't produce with two outstanding WR's., how's he going to do any better with only 1? The Vikings need to draft O-Line heavy, Mike Pouncy (Center) would make an immediate impact if he is still avail at 12. Left Tackle and RT need to be addressed as well. McKinnie doesn't have the desire to be great otherwise he would hit the weight room instead of the strip clubs. Loadholt is young and needs to do the opposite of McKinnie and dedicate himself to his craft. There is no depth on the o-line and no matter who is behind center they will be running for their lives if nothing is done to improve. GB is a prime example of how they were able to improve a horrible weakness (O-line) and make it to the SB in one year. Arguably the best RB in the League should not be getting drilled in the backfield as soon as he gets the ball. Lastly, I guess Webb's play in Philly wasn't enough to let him compete for the starting role? Seeing how Viking road victories against teams with winning records are as scarce as a hot chick in a wisconsin mall, what more does the kid have to do to earn a chance to compete? Hmm give Tavaris 4 years to find out what everyone could see after one season but Webb wins his first start and he doesn't get any respect? Thats about right for this organization.
MVF

Maple Grove, MN

#5 Feb 8, 2011
The NFL is no place to teach a player how to be a QB. You win in this league with QB's who already have QB skills, can read a defense and have the ability to buy time in the pocket to extend plays.

The Vikings have way too many holes to realistically expect to fix in one season. On offense alone they need another starting caliber receiver to go along with Harvin and Rice (assuming they sign him). To have older guys like Camarillo, Baskett and Lewis all on our roster last year was ridiculous. You knew what they brought to the table and they had no upside. They needed some young legs to develop and they didn't do it.

They OL needs at least 2, if not 3 replacements. Bryant McKinnie always has been, and will continue to be a joke. This guy puts as little effort into his play as possible. Not ready to give up on Loadholt yet but he needs to get better. We definitely need better play at center.

Defensively, there are many holes also. We don't have a safety on our roster capable of being average. Williams was a poor FA signing and shouldn't be back. While Winfield has had a great career he might be better suited as a Strong Safety given his ability to play the run. It may prolong his career also. The defensive Backfield needs to find 2-3 new starters next year and hope Griffin comes back healthy. I think Cook has potential but he was completely derailed with injuries this past season

It would be nice to add some speed at LB. It's doubtful that Leber will be back. On the DL they will need to find 2 new starters and it won't help that Williams will probably miss the first 4 games.

While most people would laugh at this, I really think the quickest solution to righting this ship is to trade Adrian Peterson. In the NFL today you win with QB's, not great RB's (which Peterson is). It is a QB driven league. If you don't have a high caliber QB you probably aren't going anywhere.
Harry

Los Angeles, CA

#6 Feb 8, 2011
Wow! These reporters are so on top of things.

Next, they'll report that the O-line sucks and we need a starting QB.
goldy

Eden Prairie, MN

#7 Feb 8, 2011
Why bothe??r-just move to LA and rid the state of Minnesota of this pathetic franchise
J-Train

Apo, AE

#8 Feb 9, 2011
I would trade a 2nd round pick for Carson Palmer, and the Bengals 4th or 5th round pick. Otherwise it's a no-brainer to take either Newton or Gabbert if available. Would love if Patrick Peterson or Prince Akunamara would still be available. They all will be gone though. VBest bet is that they take Nate Solder, freakish OT, move Mckinnie's a$$ to guard or the bench.
DRAFTING

Worcester, MA

#9 Feb 9, 2011
drafting a quarterback should still come first overall no matter what!!!
JAY C

Lititz, PA

#10 Feb 9, 2011
I don't think it's as big of a deal as they are making it out to be. Guion,Kennedy and Evans are just as good 2s as most teams have 1s. At worst they have to pick up 1 more DT to cover injury but there's 3 pretty competant guys there than can rotate the 2 spots and add 1 more for temporary depth.

Since: Sep 08

Farmington, MN

#11 Feb 9, 2011
KCVikingFan wrote:
And this is news why? How about a good article on why it would be a smart move to convince the Bengals to trade their QB for our number 12 overall pick? Carson Palmer and AP? Then draft a defensive line for a playoff run. This isn't rocket science folks.
its not mrocket science, you are right..it's plain stupidity
tom

Minneapolis, MN

#12 Feb 9, 2011
Holes on defence---as if they were good this year??? Look at how beat up Farve got because of the lack of performane from that defensive line. I would say they will be better next year no matter what.
yooperbill

AOL

#13 Feb 9, 2011
The Williams boys should really have taken their medicine this past season rather than prolong it until a new season starts again, with the Vikings record what would it have hurt,nothing at all and they could start fresh next season, its going to be painful once again for fans next season with all they are losing,but then again what did the old players really accomplish,nothing at all.good riddance.
Archangel

Duluth, MN

#14 Feb 9, 2011
Secure Greenway.$h!t-can McKinnie, & replace him. Find a decent & younger "disgruntled" veteran QB. Draft a young QB, & O liners. Trade for a few D liners. Buy or trade for a safety. Play Football.
linus

Evanston, IL

#15 Feb 9, 2011
Guion was probably going to start this year anyway, and there is good reason to expect Kevin Williams to be available from day 1. First, the decision will probably be appealed to the Minnesota Supreme Court, which would likely cause yet another delay. Second, and more importantly, the NFL's drug policy was part of the old CBA, which won't exist after March 4, so Williams' discipline (if any) will presumably be based on the new CBA. Plenty of players are angry about the league playing "gotcha," so I'm pretty sure the new agreement will require the league to notify the union if they discover that a banned substance hasn't been listed in the ingredients of a particular supplement.
Dee Nile

Saint Paul, MN

#16 Feb 9, 2011
It will not hurt the Vikings one bit to lose the Williams wall for the first four games....because Pat is done anyway...will they slip from 6-10 to 4-12? So what?This will be the first year of a rebuilding decade! Anybody looking for a quick turnaround and a SB run next year is just in great denial... In this era of free agency it is only possible to make a pieced together run about once a decade...In the 80's Darin Nelson dropped the ball....In the 90's Anderson sailed wide left....and in the 2k some idiot didn't keep the twelfth man off the field coming off a timeout! Also a game in which the biased refs/NFL needed to manufacture a feel-good story-book ending for the SB 44 Katrina bowl.... Its going to be a long haul....Welcome to Cleveland folks....

Since: Jan 11

Anoka, MN

#17 Feb 9, 2011
goldy wrote:
Why bothe??r-just move to LA and rid the state of Minnesota of this pathetic franchise
if you think this franchise is so pathetic go root for the lions

Since: Jan 11

Anoka, MN

#18 Feb 9, 2011
J-Train wrote:
I would trade a 2nd round pick for Carson Palmer, and the Bengals 4th or 5th round pick. Otherwise it's a no-brainer to take either Newton or Gabbert if available. Would love if Patrick Peterson or Prince Akunamara would still be available. They all will be gone though. VBest bet is that they take Nate Solder, freakish OT, move Mckinnie's a$$ to guard or the bench.
we dont need another head case in newton, we just got rid of favre and t-joke
NFL Champion

Saint Paul, MN

#19 Feb 9, 2011
Dan_20 wrote:
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if you think this franchise is so pathetic go root for the lions
1957 NFL Champion Detroit Lions! At least they have this....
Twinsfan

Belgrade, MN

#20 Feb 9, 2011
If they only lose Edwards and Big Pat retires, there's depth there w/Robison, Guion, etc., but what about quality? 12 seems to high for Clayborn. What about the Quinn kid from North Carolina and then a QB like Andy Dalton in the 2nd?
Twinsfan

Belgrade, MN

#21 Feb 9, 2011
Sheesh, let's see. Need a starting QB, O-line help, a DE, and a safety who can make plays...sounds like a piece of cake.....

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