Why the Green Bay Packers Must Trade ...

Why the Green Bay Packers Must Trade their First Round Pick

There are 17 comments on the LombardiAve story from Mar 26, 2013, titled Why the Green Bay Packers Must Trade their First Round Pick. In it, LombardiAve reports that:

If it wasn't obvious before Green Bay Packers tight end Jermichael Finley was awarded his $3 million roster bonus that the Packers should trade out of the first round, it should be completely obvious now.

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normallylikeyell ow

Altoona, PA

#1 Mar 26, 2013
Who is this idiot? If "D.J Fluker and Lane Johnson are gone, why waste the pick?" Because there are a lot of quality players available, that's why. If Sylvester Williams is available, I'd take him in a heartbeat. If you really think Eifert's the best player available, I'd still pick him! If the Packers had drafted this guy's way, we wouldn't have Aaron Rodgers. We weren't planning on taking a QB, but he fell in our lap. NOW, if someone wants to move up to grab a QB, like Barclay or Manuel and your guy is likely to be around at their spot, then of course you trade back. But I don't see anything "obvious" about it. We could draft a very good safety or WR at that pick too. Or if Monti Te'o's TT's flavor, he might be there, as well. There's no reason to assume this is a bad draft because there aren't a lot of sure-thing playmakers. There's great depth at other positions.
eric

Marshfield, WI

#2 Mar 26, 2013
Eifert or Ertz ( Stamford TE) id take either one of them,YES, Finley got his bonus but if he has a good season,hes going to want a ton of cash,so either one is cool!I wonder if Margus Hunt ( LSU) will be there? IF SO,,It would take me a mere second or 2 to start writing his name on the draft paper!
Would TT take Te'o if he were there? Didnt he just run a 4.7?
either way trading the 1st round pick would suck,UNLESS Ted fell back a few spots,can grab the same guy at 28 he could have at 24 and p/u a pick! OR TT has a handful of guys that would work and can fall back a few spots,grab 1 of the 4 or 5 and p.u. a pick
Ross

Onalaska, WI

#3 Mar 26, 2013
eric wrote:
Eifert or Ertz ( Stamford TE) id take either one of them,YES, Finley got his bonus but if he has a good season,hes going to want a ton of cash,so either one is cool!I wonder if Margus Hunt ( LSU) will be there? IF SO,,It would take me a mere second or 2 to start writing his name on the draft paper!
Would TT take Te'o if he were there? Didnt he just run a 4.7?
either way trading the 1st round pick would suck,UNLESS Ted fell back a few spots,can grab the same guy at 28 he could have at 24 and p/u a pick! OR TT has a handful of guys that would work and can fall back a few spots,grab 1 of the 4 or 5 and p.u. a pick
TT would definitely take Te'o if he could. Birds of a feather flock together if you get my drift! But I doubt you will.
This is a down year in the draft. This is a year free agency could have helped us. It could have helped us out in other years that we got man-handled by the Giants at home. There are years when you get close to having a SB Team, that you need to pull the trigger on a great free agent or two in order to get you to the top. Ron Wolf knew that and was willing to pull the strings and get us some good free agents when the time was right. It sickens me and makes me want to throw up putting Ted Thompson and Ron Wolf in the same sentence. There is no comparison between the two and never will be.
Jeremy

Mooreton, ND

#4 Mar 26, 2013
Ross wrote:
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TT would definitely take Te'o if he could. Birds of a feather flock together if you get my drift! But I doubt you will.
This is a down year in the draft. This is a year free agency could have helped us. It could have helped us out in other years that we got man-handled by the Giants at home. There are years when you get close to having a SB Team, that you need to pull the trigger on a great free agent or two in order to get you to the top. Ron Wolf knew that and was willing to pull the strings and get us some good free agents when the time was right. It sickens me and makes me want to throw up putting Ted Thompson and Ron Wolf in the same sentence. There is no comparison between the two and never will be.
I think once Matthews and Rodgers are secure in Green Bay for the next 6-10 years, then Green Bay can look at the market. I dont see any free agents worth the money who would take the Pack over the top like a Reggie White type signing. Teams who have won the Superbowl the past years ALL have built through the draft. Its the proven method to sustain a winning ball club for a long period of time. Within the 10 years or so, the only superbowl winners I can think that was helped in free agency was Baltimore and Anquan Boldin, New England and Wes Welker. But did those players take them over the top? Maybe the only two that did the past ten years.
jeg

Tomah, WI

#5 Mar 27, 2013
Lord I hope (and unlike the naysayers believe) TT is too smart to take Te'o. He will be the biggest bust of the draft. As has been the case with ND and it's players for the last 15 years, overrated is an understatement. 4.7 is not the blazing speed that an undersized LB needs in the NFL. HIs inability to get off of blocks by big linemen will only show up more often in the pro ranks.
eric

Marshfield, WI

#6 Mar 27, 2013
Ross wrote:
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TT would definitely take Te'o if he could. Birds of a feather flock together if you get my drift! But I doubt you will.
This is a down year in the draft. This is a year free agency could have helped us. It could have helped us out in other years that we got man-handled by the Giants at home. There are years when you get close to having a SB Team, that you need to pull the trigger on a great free agent or two in order to get you to the top. Ron Wolf knew that and was willing to pull the strings and get us some good free agents when the time was right. It sickens me and makes me want to throw up putting Ted Thompson and Ron Wolf in the same sentence. There is no comparison between the two and never will be.
Yea we get it.TT and RW have the same number of SB wins,the NFL draft is actually decently deep,I get your birds of a feather comment,TT Numbers backup and justify what Knowledable football fans and experts say and justifiably so,TT is amung the best GMs in the game.Every year,Folks like you who hate TT cry,bitch and complain about the same old stuff,YET GB is a playoff team,these teams that spend the cap on FA hardly ever live up to the expectations and miss the playoffs.Again,Ted Thompson and Ron Wolf have the same number of SB wins but TT sucks,yep we get it. Last 5 years, 3 Division titles,2 NFC championship games and a SB victory.Yep we get it,TT sucks as a GM

Since: Feb 13

Appleton, WI

#7 Mar 27, 2013
Won't know about trading till the draft actually gets to #26. Then listen to the offers, see if you like any of the available players, consider if they will be available in round 2, then make the decision. This isn't something that can be planned for.

I'm curious about Buffalo. They've made no secret about wanting a QB, and Geno Smith will likely be gone to either the Raiders, Eagles, or the Cardinals before they pick at #8. They may be willing to make a move up to #26 to get Barkley, and may be a good trade partner (Buffalo gets Packers' first rounder for Buffalo's second rounder plus a pick in probably round 3 or 4).

The draft is really flat this year, and honestly there isn't a whole lot of difference talentwise from about pick 12 in the first round all the way to the end of the second round.

Stay tuned for my sleeper pick... he's got a pretty good shot to be there at #26 and I think he would be perfect for the Packers, a good player at a position of need. Not one of the names mentioned here as far as I've seen...
GBPmies

Finland

#8 Mar 27, 2013
eric wrote:
Eifert or Ertz ( Stamford TE) id take either one of them,YES, Finley got his bonus but if he has a good season,hes going to want a ton of cash,so either one is cool!I wonder if Margus Hunt ( LSU) will be there? IF SO,,It would take me a mere second or 2 to start writing his name on the draft paper!
Would TT take Te'o if he were there? Didnt he just run a 4.7?
either way trading the 1st round pick would suck,UNLESS Ted fell back a few spots,can grab the same guy at 28 he could have at 24 and p/u a pick! OR TT has a handful of guys that would work and can fall back a few spots,grab 1 of the 4 or 5 and p.u. a pick
I like the idea of Eifert or Ertz and Hunt too. I think there will also be a lot DT/NT avalible so maybe Raji can play more at DE where he has been very effective (so I read). I just want some help on the Dline, they don't really have anyone other than Raji and even Pickett will be FA next year.
Laughing Bear Fan

Denver, CO

#10 Mar 27, 2013
jeg wrote:
Lord I hope (and unlike the naysayers believe) TT is too smart to take Te'o. He will be the biggest bust of the draft. As has been the case with ND and it's players for the last 15 years, overrated is an understatement. 4.7 is not the blazing speed that an undersized LB needs in the NFL. HIs inability to get off of blocks by big linemen will only show up more often in the pro ranks.
Actually whoever gets Monte Ball will be getting the biggest bust of the draft...along the likes of Ron Dayne and Gabe Creminin
normallylikeyell ow

Altoona, PA

#11 Mar 27, 2013
I disagree that this is a weak draft. It just depends on what you are looking for. It's not a big skill players draft, true. It's a very good big guys draft. And pretty deep in defensive backs. Trading out of 26 sounds great in terms of getting an extra pick and all that, but the Vikings have a pick at 23 and 25, so they are really in the driver's seat for the likely go-get-a-QB pick, because they can get two picks for one most likely. A lot has to do with what Arizona and Buffalo and Philly do in the first round.

Since: Feb 13

Appleton, WI

#12 Mar 28, 2013
normallylikeyellow wrote:
I disagree that this is a weak draft. It just depends on what you are looking for.
Oh heck no. I wouldn't call it a weak draft at all. Just the opposite, which was what my point was.

Once you get past the first few "can't miss" players at the top, you get to the next level, a level where there are probably 40-50 players who, while very good, are all pretty much equal talent wise. That's why you see the mocks all over the place with one mock putting a guy at #20 and another mock putting the same player at #40.

This is one of those drafts where the value is really from the second half of the first round to the end of the second round. I'd love to have multiple second round picks in this one. If someone wants to trade up, it's a great draft for the Packers to trade down in.

Though I really doubt that my dark horse pick at #26 makes it that far into the second round, so if the Packers want him, they have to keep their pick.
normallylikeyell ow

Altoona, PA

#13 Mar 28, 2013
I get you A75. I was responding to Ross. And uh, when will this mysterious pick be revealed?

Since: Feb 13

Appleton, WI

#14 Mar 29, 2013
Heck, why not. I usually don't do projections because the draft is so unpredictable, but here's who I would like to see with the top 3 picks (and there's a pretty good chance each will be available at the Packers' slot). Each slot is a BPA/value pick for that slot who also fits a need.

Round 3: Barrett Jones, C/G, Alabama. I'm just going with most of the mocks that have him sliding well out of the 1st round. He is ready to play and can pretty much plug in anywhere on the line According to what I've read, he's likely to slip into round 3.

Round 2: Giovani Bernard, RB, North Carolina. I have a feeling he is going to be the breakout back of this draft, better than Eddie Lacy or Montee Ball. He can do everything a Packer RB needs to do... a true 3 down back.

Round 1: Arthur Brown, ILB, Kansas State. Yes, he's small, but he is an incredible athlete. Again, he can play pretty much any LB position in any defense. Great range, great speed, great tackler, and great instincts.

I know... flak for no DL help. I'm just going BPA that fits a need here, and I think Brown has the ability to have more of an impact on the Packers defense than any of the DL players available at pick 26. Let the bashing begin...
eric

Marshfield, WI

#15 Mar 29, 2013
NO bashing from me! I like Arthur Brown LB KS.. It is amazing how Barrett Jones not to long ago was a mid 1st rounder and now he can fall back that far! It wouldnt shock me if B.J. is considered a 3rd rounder but Ted took him in the Packers late 2nd round,( just in case he doesnt fall 26 spots into 3rd round)
normallylikeyell ow

Altoona, PA

#16 Mar 30, 2013
Those are solid choices. I respectfully (after all you went on record) disagree on Bernard. He lacks the speed, is small and already has had his share of injuries. I think people like that he's only a sophomore, so he's got upside. But he won't get any faster (didn't run at his pro day). Stepfan Taylor's probably the safe choice. I like Andre Ellington because he excels in all aspects of the pass game, but he is smaller. Truthfully, if you think Harris, Green and co. can hold it together, the best pick is probably to take a flyer on Marcus Lattimore. He's sensational if he can come back. Brown's good. I'm a fan of Zaviar Gooden (rd 3 grade) in that outside spot. Brown is probably less raw. Barrett Jones is good, but you're right, we need front 7 defenders.
eric

Marshfield, WI

#17 Mar 30, 2013
MY biggest question is Bulaga,coming back from a hip injury and moving to LT,IF he holds down LT solidly,that solves many problems up front.
As a much better pass defender and Barclay a much better Run defender ( or blocker in both cases) that protects AR ( BB) and improves the running game ( D.B.).ITs not coincidence after BB got injured and Barclay took over at RT,GB went from a 3.2 average to just under 4 per carry and Coach Mc called more screens and dumps. I honestly beleive Harris will contribute,,at 5 9 205 or so,a bit small but runs low,hard to put a solid hit on him and with games under his belt ( and bulking up a bit i hope) should do well.I personally hope they can land Cedric Benson as a 3rd stringer type,give him a few carries and let him bang.
Brandon Saine must still be considered..5 10 220 and AR has stated in the past,he may be our best Receiving back and the best hands of all the backs and he runs close to a 4 4 40.Point is, I think we need to solidify the middle of the line ( maybe vanRoten can pull it off at Center but id like to see a good size center/guard come in) and no real need to spend an upper pick at RB..RB can be found in the later rounds, but i do wish we can land that bigger FB.Kuhn just isnt that bashing type/blocking back type FB.theres a reason why GB had 18 3rd and 1 and only converted 11 of them,well below the NFL average.
I would love to see Reid ( Safety LSU) at Safety,Sean Richardson get his shot at SS ( compete with Burnett).if not Arthur Brown ( like A 75 said) would work real fine as well, I agree with both of you guys, we need front 7 defenders! IF we can find a NT id got there.rest Raji from time to time and lord knows how much he will want come FA time.
eric

Marshfield, WI

#18 Mar 30, 2013
Matt Flynn maybe traded from Seattle to Oakland,then Oakland trades Carson Palmer to Arizona,,that would work for both i would think.
Reggie McKenzie obviously knows Flynn from their days at GB.
Anyway,I wonder if TT will trade up like the few recent drafts OR does TT think we have enough holes OR there are enough players to improve spots that TT will trade down for extra picks! It seems to me its deep enough with players along the same talent level that Ted can trade down early ( trade 26th for the 33rd and an extra pick for example) or (trade our 2nd for an early 3rd and a 5th as another example)Not alot of cap space SO if Ted can find a few extra players that will fit the system,a few vets can be traded or released to free up cap space and GB wont take much of a hit in talent or maybe improve in some instances.

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