Vikings know 0-2 start takes them dow...

Vikings know 0-2 start takes them down wrong path to playoffs

There are 72 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Sep 12, 2008, titled Vikings know 0-2 start takes them down wrong path to playoffs. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

The specter of an 0-2 start hovers over the Colts and Vikings entering Sunday's matchup, which has Minnesota players dialing up the urgency as they prepare for their home opener at the Metrodome.

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Archangel

Benson, MN

#1 Sep 12, 2008
Seems stupid to be talking "crucial game" on just the second game of the season. But this IS a crucial game. Winning this game, in a big way, would go a long piece down the road to restoring some confidence in the fan base. Maybe they just took GB with Rodgers too lightly. I hope that's all it was. In Jackson's case, it just seems to me that his problem isn't lack of the tools, it's the lack of brains. When a QB looks so lousy that part of you wants to see him go down with an injury, so his back-up comes in, you KNOW that your team's QB sucks.
OMG

Saint Paul, MN

#3 Sep 12, 2008
Vikings know 0-2 start takes them down wrong path to playoffs. What are they going to think when they're 1-6?

40for60

United States

#5 Sep 12, 2008
Archangel wrote:
Seems stupid to be talking "crucial game" on just the second game of the season. But this IS a crucial game. Winning this game, in a big way, would go a long piece down the road to restoring some confidence in the fan base. Maybe they just took GB with Rodgers too lightly. I hope that's all it was. In Jackson's case, it just seems to me that his problem isn't lack of the tools, it's the lack of brains. When a QB looks so lousy that part of you wants to see him go down with an injury, so his back-up comes in, you KNOW that your team's QB sucks.
Hi Arch, all the haters have been out in force, not to mention some of the slimiest packer backers. This game is big, no doubt. If we lose, Ziggy will be even more fidgety than he was last week. We know that 0-2 is the last thing we need, but NY was 0-2 last year, so there is still hope. Of the three big name players picked up this off-season, Allen is the only one to get any practice time in with the starters. Williams and Berrian have been nursing injuries, so they understandably aren't on the same page. It just might take a couple of games to get Berrian comfortable with TJ. Williams is still out for a couple of game I believe. Have a good day Arch
Mark

United States

#6 Sep 12, 2008
Agreed, the fans were shaken by the MNF loss, and we need to beat the Colts. The players know it. They need to bring their "A" game and then some to the home opener. Go Vikings!
Justice

Faribault, MN

#7 Sep 12, 2008
TJ will have to step it up big time for the Vikings to have a chance in this game! With Manning at Qb the Vikes will need to score early and often to win.
Fire Childress

Duluth, MN

#8 Sep 12, 2008
40for60 wrote:
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Hi Arch, all the haters have been out in force, not to mention some of the slimiest packer backers. This game is big, no doubt. If we lose, Ziggy will be even more fidgety than he was last week. We know that 0-2 is the last thing we need, but NY was 0-2 last year, so there is still hope. Of the three big name players picked up this off-season, Allen is the only one to get any practice time in with the starters. Williams and Berrian have been nursing injuries, so they understandably aren't on the same page. It just might take a couple of games to get Berrian comfortable with TJ. Williams is still out for a couple of game I believe. Have a good day Arch
Archangel's post wasn't that of a converted hater? He basically said T-Joke is stupid, sucks and he hopes he gets hurt... even I wouldn't wish that on the guy - a permanent spot on the bench would be fine.
onshore

Huntsville, AL

#9 Sep 12, 2008
Definitely," tight end Visanthe Shiancoe said Thursday. "I'm not too patient. I want to see wins now."

Well how 'bout that, huh! NOW I feel better!! Why in the h*** do they keep getting quotes from this guy -- one of our worst and overpaid starters on the team?

I truely believe AD will have a good day against the Colts, and the D-line will get better pressure against this team than GB. But what scares me the most is our pass D! No...it's T-jack! WAIT...OK, it's definitely Bevelle and Childress' play calling!! But I'm still the biggest fan in Florida!
Frosty

Longview, WA

#10 Sep 12, 2008
Actually, I don't think the loss to the Packers was that big of a deal. Injuries have just raped us, we lost a huge piece of our special teams, so it's going to take a while to get back on track. Childress called all of 7 passing plays in the first half. There was some pass interferrence that was never called, but whatever, you live with it, but too many drops and misses by the recievers.

Honestly, most of the time Jackson's pass was on the money, the intended reciever, or tight end or whatever, just didn't get ahold of it.

But yeah, the way Matt Forte ran against the Colts, Peterson is gonna have a hell of a day. Unless they all key in on him.
whitevikefan28

Faribault, MN

#12 Sep 12, 2008
Vikings better win this game because myself and I'm sure most of the Vikings fan base is growing tired of them losing under coarch Brad Childress. I can't stand watching them lose against the Packers. Childress needs to learn how to call more unpredictable plays on offense. I never see throws to running backs out of the backfield such as swing plays or screens. If we don't make playoffs I think Childress should lose his job and become a scout for us because the only thing he has proved to me is that he knows how to draft players with the exception of quarterbacks.
Dave

United States

#13 Sep 12, 2008
Archangel wrote:
Seems stupid to be talking "crucial game" on just the second game of the season. But this IS a crucial game. Winning this game, in a big way, would go a long piece down the road to restoring some confidence in the fan base. Maybe they just took GB with Rodgers too lightly. I hope that's all it was. In Jackson's case, it just seems to me that his problem isn't lack of the tools, it's the lack of brains. When a QB looks so lousy that part of you wants to see him go down with an injury, so his back-up comes in, you KNOW that your team's QB sucks.
I really think your right about the Vikes taking the Packers too lightly. However I think more blame has to go to the defense and special teams for the loss than to Jackson. If the defense comes together this week the Colts will be manhandled. Look what the Bears did to them. Sorry, but our defense is better and will be the elite of the league in the coming weeks. If Childress and Bevell would use a little imagination and open up the offense the Vikes would be unstopable. Yes even with Jackson at the helm. The lack of brains seems to come from our coaching staff. Maybe I'm crazy but I still believe this team can win with Jackson if the coaches would just let him play to his ability instead of holding him back. GO VIKES!
Thune is a Chump

Saint Paul, MN

#14 Sep 12, 2008
dan in PHoenix wrote:
ARCHIE you hit the nail on the head. T JACK has the tools to be a good QB.... the problem is his coach doesn't have the brains to put hinm in situations where he can win....maby someone can take out klinks knees so we can get rid of his worthless a s s ..GO QUEENS... FAVRE STILL SUCKS
You are a dum az! No game......
40for60

United States

#15 Sep 12, 2008
Fire Childress wrote:
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Archangel's post wasn't that of a converted hater? He basically said T-Joke is stupid, sucks and he hopes he gets hurt... even I wouldn't wish that on the guy - a permanent spot on the bench would be fine.
If Tarvaris keeps grasping defeat from the jaws of victory, you will have more company than you want. If Tarvaris does turn it around, then you will have to flame about something else, because that's just what you do, flame.
Thune is a Chump

Saint Paul, MN

#16 Sep 12, 2008
Dave wrote:
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I really think your right about the Vikes taking the Packers too lightly. However I think more blame has to go to the defense and special teams for the loss than to Jackson. If the defense comes together this week the Colts will be manhandled. Look what the Bears did to them. Sorry, but our defense is better and will be the elite of the league in the coming weeks. If Childress and Bevell would use a little imagination and open up the offense the Vikes would be unstopable. Yes even with Jackson at the helm. The lack of brains seems to come from our coaching staff. Maybe I'm crazy but I still believe this team can win with Jackson if the coaches would just let him play to his ability instead of holding him back. GO VIKES!
Take the Packers lightly? 34-0 last time they played, 13-3. Only a Vikes fan would make this comment, take your glasses off.
whitevikefan28

Faribault, MN

#18 Sep 12, 2008
About that Arch guy you obviously don't know who or what you are talking about. Williams and Berriam play on opposite sides of the field. Tyrell Johnson is ok for a rookie in Williams spot. It's the offensive line and the wide recievers need to get open more often then Vikes offense will be better. But on another note Childress should look at getting a big time corner to play opposite of Winfield. He had a chance to get Lito Sheppard I believe was on the trade market. I'm sure Childress and Reid old time pals could have worked out a good deal for the both of them.
Thune is a Chump

Saint Paul, MN

#19 Sep 12, 2008
Dave, you an idiot. Unstopable? Who? Vikes #1 reciever would be our #4, behind James Jones. How bout tight ends? How bout QB? Viking fans are unreal? I love it though.
32 ranked defense against the pass last year, and all of a sudden there an elite defense, pass the bong.
call for a do over

United States

#20 Sep 12, 2008
Tjak is only a good QB when he hands the ball off.

He looked frightened like a deer in the headlights on Monday night. He has no business in that position of starter. He needs to ride the bench a couple more years.

Bring back Culpepper maybe.

After waiting all of the off season, that game was a huge disappointment.
PurpleBlood0021

La Verne, CA

#21 Sep 12, 2008
Have you seen that Colts D-Line?!?! YIKES. Vikings should pound the ball All Day. I can see the same type of offensive game as the game against the Chargers last year. Once Castillo got hurt, the middle of that D-Line was swiss cheese. The Colts D-Line was pretty bad even before the Johnson guy got booted off the team.

The pieces are in place to win the Time of Posession by a huge margin, which obviously will give the Vikes the best chance to win.

I just hope Childress doesn't pick this as the game to come out guns blazin with an aerial assault. I hate to rag on the ol ball coach, but frustration is starting to set in with his playcalling.
Dave

United States

#22 Sep 12, 2008
Thune is a Chump wrote:
Dave, you an idiot. Unstopable? Who? Vikes #1 reciever would be our #4, behind James Jones. How bout tight ends? How bout QB? Viking fans are unreal? I love it though.
32 ranked defense against the pass last year, and all of a sudden there an elite defense, pass the bong.
Settle down now. Sounds like you have already had too muck of the "bong". GO VIKES!
anne

Washington, DC

#23 Sep 12, 2008
dan in PHoenix wrote:
PLAYOFFS?!!! give me a break. if this team couldn't beat the worthless packers team that wont win 5 more games all season how the hell do the think they can beat Payton Manning? Yes i was wrong again, and i always am when i predict the vikings season. 14-2? yea right...GO QUEENS...FAVRE STILL SUCKS
even if they dont beat payton manning they could still win the division ESPECIALLY if gb only wins 5 more ..goood logic!! lol
texas viking

Ecleto, TX

#24 Sep 12, 2008
Well, I'm trying to remain hopeful, but a stomping is a large possibility Sunday, and I don't mean in the direction we would like.

I want to see the Vikings that pummeled the Giants and Chargers, instead of the ones who tanked against the f-packers and foreskins.

Again, I'm hoping for 3-2 or better after game 5, but 0-5 is a genuine possibility. As much as I want to support everyone, when professional players look that bad, you have to take a hard look at the scheme and the coach. To me, both the offensive and defensive schemes are outdated, and the coaches are too timid and conservative for most of the game, then take crazy risks at all the wrong times (shotgun on 3rd and 1 in the red zone, long bomb two years ago on 4th and 5 or 6, when they had plenty of time to drive down to try and beat the bears, etc).

There is enough "paper talent" on this team to be very, very solid. But coaching???? The jury is still out, but they're only about two votes from a unanimous verdict to "hang" Chilli.

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