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There are 86 comments on the Public Opinion story from Nov 24, 2008, titled COLLEGE FOOTBALL: Nittany Lions should be playing in the BCS ti.... In it, Public Opinion reports that:

We now know where Penn State is headed next month. So it's the perfect time to discuss where the Nittany Lions should be going, why they aren't there and who is responsible.

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Retired 1SG

United States

#1 Nov 24, 2008
C'mon and get serious.
You lost to Iowa!! Granted, a 1 point loss, but it was a loss. You kind of lucked out against Ohio State.
If Pryor had just run straight ahead instead of trying to go outside on his fumble Ohio State would have kept the ball and won the game.
Penn State is a great team no doubt, and I agree with you about USC, but all it takes these days is lose 1 and you're done.
The Bonz

Walnut Bottom, PA

#2 Nov 24, 2008
To all you football people out there how does USC ranked higher then PSU when PSU blows away OSU then OSU Beats USC you tell me that these so called football people know what they are yalking about BONZ
The Bonz

Walnut Bottom, PA

#3 Nov 24, 2008
IF Pryor this and if Pryor that
Dumb Article

Mansfield, OH

#4 Nov 24, 2008
Who let's this clown right articles...hey Frankie it's called sports. Who cares about your should of, would of, could of article. The fact is PSU did not come to play against Iowa. Your talking to a PSU die hard here...you know bleed blue & white & the whole 9 yards. Come on Frankie write an original article. Write something like how nice it was to see PSU back in the talk about the nations best. About how this senior class went to war with Joe & the coaches as freshman when some of them could have played anywhere in the country & PSU was in the midst of horrible seasons & bad recruiting classes. Write about that for once Frankie.
As far as why USC is ranked higher than PSU if you haven't learned by now the BCS is all about momentum. You can't lose late in the season it has to be early unless you lose to a high ranked team like Texas did. This isn't rocket science people...Joe said "it's the B.S.C."...bring on the playoffs Barack!!!
playoff

Needmore, PA

#5 Nov 24, 2008
A bunch of one loss teams equals a bunch of teams that all have legitimate arguments to be in the title game. Two weeks ago, the commentators were talking about how the BCS was "falling into place" as it always does. Just a week or two later, it is in chaos again. A national championship will never be legitimate until it is decided in a playoff. Then it doesn't matter if you are #1 or say #8. You still have a chance to prove it on the field.
speedychet

Elmer, NJ

#6 Nov 24, 2008
Dumb Article wrote:
Who let's this clown right articles...hey Frankie it's called sports. Who cares about your should of, would of, could of article. The fact is PSU did not come to play against Iowa. Your talking to a PSU die hard here...you know bleed blue & white & the whole 9 yards. Come on Frankie write an original article. Write something like how nice it was to see PSU back in the talk about the nations best. About how this senior class went to war with Joe & the coaches as freshman when some of them could have played anywhere in the country & PSU was in the midst of horrible seasons & bad recruiting classes. Write about that for once Frankie.
As far as why USC is ranked higher than PSU if you haven't learned by now the BCS is all about momentum. You can't lose late in the season it has to be early unless you lose to a high ranked team like Texas did. This isn't rocket science people...Joe said "it's the B.S.C."...bring on the playoffs Barack!!!
The writer writes a credible question, you reply with some incredible rantings. Oklahoma is not third in the BCS rating, yet has given up an average of more then 23 points/game and that is with a game with the Chattanooga Mocs, a 1-AA team thrown into the stats. The okies gave up 45 points in a losing effort to Texas and Kansas is not a powerhouse, but they allowed 31 points that week. They have not played a quality opponent outside of their conference. I would question how good the conference is when every team playing there has give up over 35 points in at least one game.
The BCS ranking of USC has nothing to do with momentum. PENN STATE has won the Big Ten conference, USC is in second and needs help to win the PAC 10, so your momentum theory is bunk.
Blake Fite

Tulsa, OK

#7 Nov 24, 2008
Mr Bodani,
I respectfully disagree with you regarding your assessment of the Big 12's non-conference schedule this year. OU, for example, has played 10-2 TCU and beat them and 10-2 Cincinnati and beat them. Right now there are 5 or 6 teams in the Big 12 that right now no athletic director will be jumping on the phone to schedule in the next few years. I also do not think PSU has played any better schedule than OU. Oregon St. is not any better than TCU and Cincinnati. In fact, I think a good matchup would be Cinncinatti/TCU vs. Oregon St. It is very easy to be myopic about your home town team. The perception nationally is not that the Big 10 is down. The reality is, across the Big 10, outside of PSU, MSU, and possibly OSU they are not very good. Of course the bowl season will help us see this more clearly.
Whocares

Newville, PA

#8 Nov 24, 2008
Penn State always has to suffer due to the likes of ESPN and ABC sports. They always say Penn State never plays anyone but when they do play someone in the bowls they won more than lost. Look at all the heizeman's trophy winners they shut down in bowl games, yet they don't get the respect. All sports are a joke controlled by the refs and Vegas.
call it as I see them

Elmer, NJ

#9 Nov 24, 2008
Blake Fite wrote:
Mr Bodani,
I respectfully disagree with you regarding your assessment of the Big 12's non-conference schedule this year. OU, for example, has played 10-2 TCU and beat them and 10-2 Cincinnati and beat them. Right now there are 5 or 6 teams in the Big 12 that right now no athletic director will be jumping on the phone to schedule in the next few years. I also do not think PSU has played any better schedule than OU. Oregon St. is not any better than TCU and Cincinnati. In fact, I think a good matchup would be Cinncinatti/TCU vs. Oregon St. It is very easy to be myopic about your home town team. The perception nationally is not that the Big 10 is down. The reality is, across the Big 10, outside of PSU, MSU, and possibly OSU they are not very good. Of course the bowl season will help us see this more clearly.
I can respect your disagreement, but Cincinnati nor TCU has beaten any team of the caliper of USC, but Oregon State has and Oregon State, not USC is in first place in the PAC 10, so the perception of those giving the perception that the Big 10 is down is quite in question, since they have OS ranked 16 and USC in the top 5. The reality is that Oklahoma, Texas Tech, Texas and Oklahoma State all have defenses that are like sieves and not one Big 12 school can match up against an upper tier team outside of their conference. They only look good because they play each other.
Penn State has the complete package, offense and defense.Only one other school has shown that they are in that class and that is Alabama. Florida has a coach that like to keep piling it on, but does not make his team great. They missed an extra point when the game was on the line. Not a long field goal or a short run by a goal line stand, but an extra point. Great teams do not do that.
Funk

Chambersburg, PA

#10 Nov 24, 2008
speedychet: it is about momentum - every year. you lose late, you're in trouble. PSU lost late. but, really, if you're not 1 or 2, who cares?
shotglass

Etters, PA

#11 Nov 24, 2008
Funk wrote:
speedychet: it is about momentum - every year. you lose late, you're in trouble. PSU lost late. but, really, if you're not 1 or 2, who cares?
See, you and others see this and just say, "That's the way it is; deal wtih it."

But that's not GOOD ENOUGH. It's wrong.

Anyway, the real problem is that PSU could have run the table, and some of these jokers would STILL be looking for a way to slip a one-loss team into the BCS final ahead of the Nittany Lions.

Because Penn State is not a "sexy" team. You listen to the media in other areas of the country, and all they can throw at you is Ohio State's tanking of the last two BCS finals. They use that to discredit Penn State. But they never deal with Penn State itself, the plusses and minuses of this particular team.

Because frankly, there aren't a whole lot of minuses with this Penn State team. And if you look at them like that, they have as good a resume as any other one-loss team out there.
Dumb Article

Mansfield, OH

#12 Nov 24, 2008
Rantings hmmm...hwo about this...the moral of the story is it's the BSC not the BCS. PSU lost to an unranked. The players choked, the coaches, choked, everyone did. Don't make excuses just deal with it! PSU wasn't going to play for the title anyway that is the reality of it boyz. Please help me figure out who Penn State's quality opponent was out of conference that they played...Coastal Carolina??? For that matter help me figure out who Penn State's quality opponent was in the conference. Like i said in my previous statement i'm as big of PSU fan as anyone but i'm just being a realist not a PSU homer.
Think about this...I agree the PAC-10 is over rated (have been for years) if momentum has nothing to do with it then how is USC ranked ahead of PSU after losing to a team PSU slaughtered. Obviously the score doesn't mean much. nor strength of schedule. No the fact is USC lost early in the season & noone cares. they are killing teams & taking care of business. they have the momentum of the voters. as does florida i might add...ponder that one homers!
speedychet wrote:
<quoted text>
The writer writes a credible question, you reply with some incredible rantings. Oklahoma is not third in the BCS rating, yet has given up an average of more then 23 points/game and that is with a game with the Chattanooga Mocs, a 1-AA team thrown into the stats. The okies gave up 45 points in a losing effort to Texas and Kansas is not a powerhouse, but they allowed 31 points that week. They have not played a quality opponent outside of their conference. I would question how good the conference is when every team playing there has give up over 35 points in at least one game.
The BCS ranking of USC has nothing to do with momentum. PENN STATE has won the Big Ten conference, USC is in second and needs help to win the PAC 10, so your momentum theory is bunk.
Dumb Article

Mansfield, OH

#13 Nov 24, 2008
AMEN BROTHER!!!!!!
playoff wrote:
A bunch of one loss teams equals a bunch of teams that all have legitimate arguments to be in the title game. Two weeks ago, the commentators were talking about how the BCS was "falling into place" as it always does. Just a week or two later, it is in chaos again. A national championship will never be legitimate until it is decided in a playoff. Then it doesn't matter if you are #1 or say #8. You still have a chance to prove it on the field.

“DEC 7 1941”

Since: Dec 06

AWAYS A BUCKEYE!!!

#14 Nov 24, 2008
The Bonz wrote:
IF Pryor this and if Pryor that
Jealous?
shotglass

Etters, PA

#15 Nov 24, 2008
Dumb Article wrote:
Rantings hmmm...hwo about this...the moral of the story is it's the BSC not the BCS. PSU lost to an unranked. The players choked, the coaches, choked, everyone did. Don't make excuses just deal with it! PSU wasn't going to play for the title anyway that is the reality of it boyz. Please help me figure out who Penn State's quality opponent was out of conference that they played...Coastal Carolina??? For that matter help me figure out who Penn State's quality opponent was in the conference. Like i said in my previous statement i'm as big of PSU fan as anyone but i'm just being a realist not a PSU homer.
Think about this...I agree the PAC-10 is over rated (have been for years) if momentum has nothing to do with it then how is USC ranked ahead of PSU after losing to a team PSU slaughtered. Obviously the score doesn't mean much. nor strength of schedule. No the fact is USC lost early in the season & noone cares. they are killing teams & taking care of business. they have the momentum of the voters. as does florida i might add...ponder that one homers!
<quoted text>
It's hilarious that you could even write that without using the words "Oregon State."

You have failed. Leave your playbook with your assistant coach as you exit.
shotglass

Etters, PA

#16 Nov 24, 2008
Truebuckeyefan wrote:
<quoted text>Jealous?
You're right.

PSU didn't fumble. Terrelle did.

“ Seal Of Democrat Party”

Since: Aug 07

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#17 Nov 24, 2008
Lets rejoin this converstion after the Rose Bowl and see if Penn State wins there!
yougottabekiddin g

Englewood, CO

#18 Nov 24, 2008
No team that lost to a middle of the pack school (Iowa) in a mediocre conference (Big 10) should get a sniff at the BCS championship game. The writer sounds almost as bad as a Notre Dame or Duke fan!

“Miss December”

Since: Oct 08

Fat City

#19 Nov 24, 2008
Stop yer cryin'. In every state that has a one-loss team, another two bit reporter is trying to make the same case.

Since: Feb 08

Glenmoore, PA

#20 Nov 24, 2008
Truebuckeyefan wrote:
<quoted text>Jealous?
The WINNER can NEVER be jealous of the LOSER. That questioned can only be asked by the WINNER to the LOSER. By the way, are you?

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