Slow start costs Northwestern in loss...

Slow start costs Northwestern in loss to Michigan State

There are 8 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Oct 11, 2008, titled Slow start costs Northwestern in loss to Michigan State. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

It's not that Northwestern recoiled from its first true test of the season, against No.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Chicago Tribune.


Mishawaka, IN

#1 Oct 12, 2008
my weekly fav. college team won this weekend. but then my weekly fav. college team changes every week


United States

#2 Oct 12, 2008
Well said, Rick. The connection between Bacher's mistakes and NU success over the past two seasons is pretty glaring. When he plays error-free football, NU wins. Unfortunately, as you pointed out, he'll always be a mistake-prone QB.

Fraser, MI

#3 Oct 12, 2008
Excuses. Look, this is the fourth game in a row MSU has won where the other team has turned the ball over and the other side is saying "well we beat ourselves with stupid turnovers" and blah, blah, blah. They got beat by 17 at home. MSU forces mistakes and doesn't make them. Thats part of being a better football team. They got beat by a better team, accept it and move on.

Chicago, IL

#4 Oct 12, 2008
I was there, there were 11 guys in purple on the field during the whole first quarter. Quit whining, and realize that the better team won. MSU dominated the 1st quarter, and held that lead throughout the entire game. Forced turnovers were key, and Northwestern couldn't force a turnover. I am not saying MSU is going to win the big ten and they are the greatest ever, however, yesterday they showed that they are a better team than Northwestern. Don't discredit MSU by saying that Northwestern beat themselves, because the scorebord showed the truth, MSU - 37, NW - 20. Go Green, Go White!
Sparty Party

Naperville, IL

#5 Oct 12, 2008
MIchigan State won for 3 reasons:

1) NU had 3 turnovers; MSU had none.
2) NU special teams played poorly.
3) MSU won the battle of field postion.

Chicago, IL

#6 Oct 12, 2008
Sparty Party is absolutely right. I'd probably put field position as the #1 reason that MSU dominated the game (though turnovers and special teams play are certainly the reasons why MSU won field position). The yardage statistics all being in NU's favor is a bit deceiving in this game. With one exception, MSU's scoring drives were all less than 45 yards, whereas NU needed to go the length of the field each time. It isn't that NU had more yards because they "held" MSU. Both teams (especially in the second half) pretty much moved the ball at will. The only reason that MSU had fewer yards is that the Spartans were playing on a much shorter field than the Wildcats. And the reason for that is that the Spartans were the better team when it came to turnovers and special teams.

Are these teams in a completely different class from each other? No. Right now, Penn State is the only team in the Big Ten playing at a completely different level from the rest of the conference. But turnover margin and special teams also aren't just chance statistics. MSU's win was not a fluke. On Saturday, MSU was the better team.

And, BTW, I'm a Wildcat...same class as Fitzgerald. I bleed purple. But I'm also not going to make excuses. We were beaten by a better team. Hopefully we will learn from this game and become bowl eligible when we face Purdue next week.
Matthew Pung

Little Rock, AR

#7 Oct 12, 2008
At some point, Michigan State must be given credit for its wins.

It becomes tiring to hear week after week that the other team beat itself. Northwestern fell due to several key plays in which they were BEAT by the Spartans.

The fair catch on the onside kick was an incredibly heady play by the MSU player and a boneheaded one to catch the kick by NU. The Spartan red zone defense may be the best in the country. The tightening of coverage in the red zone has been incredible, Johnny Adams made a terrific play on a seemingly open receiver to intercept Bacher's pass in the end-zone.

Offensively, MSU ground out the game with smart, conservative play calling. Had MSU needed more yards, they may have opened up the playbook more. Don Treadwell called a great game and the Spartans were able to take advantage of field position. Yards per play were more similar between the two teams than the total yardage would indicate.

MSU played NU soft and allowed them to throw under. By keeping the game in front of them MSU allowed NU yards, but not points.

NU is a solid, big ten team. Are they as good as MSU? NO, not even close! They were beaten by a SMARTER, more athletic, and tougher team by 17 AT HOME!

Morrissey, quite your job and get a clue.

Chandler, AZ

#8 Oct 12, 2008
Does anybody EVER give Michigan State Credit, EVER?

Rediculous Homer article from this hack.

MSU Beat NW at HOME by 17 points!

17 points!!



What else do you need to see to call MSU Better, Homer?

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Javon Ringer Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
News Tennessee Titans' Darius Reynaud glad to have s... (Aug '12) Aug '12 ronald smith 1
News Titans place RB Johnson on did not report list (Aug '11) Sep '11 Devisivefarts 4
News NFL Rumors: Tennessee Titans Must Show Chris Jo... (Aug '11) Aug '11 CHRIS ODOM 1
News Johnson runs for 142; Titans rout Raiders 38-13 (Sep '10) Sep '10 Laughing 2
News Forecasting the Big Ten | BuckeyeXtra (Aug '10) Aug '10 OhioWolverine Marion 7
News Five Reasons Chris Johnson's Holdout Will Last ... (May '10) Jul '10 CC Twin Falls 3
News What The Offseason Did To The Running-Back-By-C... (Jun '10) Jun '10 Bullfarts 3
More from around the web