Judge may decide cat case today

Full story: The Indianapolis Star

A judge today could decide a professional athlete's claim that he deserves to be compensated for the "forced entry" of a family of cats that caused $2,000 in damage to his Carmel home.
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Jack of Birmingham AL

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Feb 23, 2007
 
I cannot believe a person of his means (spoiled, NFL Football Player) would go after another who was working with the Indy Feral program to reduce the problem of feral cats.
This guy has lost sight of what it means to be a good neighbor and citizen.
Madalyn

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#3
Feb 23, 2007
 
That woman does not deserve to have to go through this stupid lawsuit. She obviously took action to get the cats spayed/neutered and relocated to an appropriate place. She didn't create the problem of them being there - but she solved it anyway.

Meanwhile some rich football player failed to maintain his own property (broken vent cover) and then wants to blame her because the cats found shelter there. What a creep! Sure wish the judge would order him to pay her legal fees.
CAA

Carmel, IN

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#4
Feb 23, 2007
 
I'm shocked, that guy even plays for the Panthers. You think he'd have some sort of loyalty or even own up to them (get it, felines..haha.
Bakers Pet

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#5
Feb 23, 2007
 
what a jerk, I've experienced a cat in my crawl space and smells. I never thought about suing the owners though. I just cleaned up the problem and blocked up the entrances it was using.
Jim Saul

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#6
Feb 23, 2007
 
Who is gay? The roommate or Jason Baker? This could affect the ruling.
Meow Mix

Carmel, IN

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#7
Feb 23, 2007
 
The case will hinge on this law:

"Every person responsible for any animal located within the City shall ensure that such animal:

"...(j) Is prevented from running at large on property other than private property owned or lawfully occupied by its Owner by means of a leash, chain or other appropriate physical restraint.

"...(m) Does not defecate on the property of another unless the person responsible for the animal immediately thereafter removes or has removed from such property as much of the feces as is reasonably possible."

The question is, is SHE responsible for the animal?

She was responsible enough to feed them.

She was responsible enough to give them water.

She was responsible enough to have them neutered.

She was responsible enough to have them vaccinated.

Yes, I believe she was responsible for those animals.
Jason Baker

West Lafayette, IN

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#8
Feb 23, 2007
 
My Mom is coming over, right now, to pattle my tight little bottom, for what I did to this pretty lady...I kinda hope my male roomate joins in too. Then, I will have to watch 8 hours of Mr. Rodgers. Finally, she will make me write, 100 times, on the blackboard...won't you be my neighbor. I can't wait, to see the look on her face, when I tell her she has got the wrong Jason Baker!!! P.S. Helen, I would love to be your neightbor...THANKS FOR WHAT YOU DID!
Elsa McAllister

Englewood, CO

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#9
Feb 23, 2007
 
She did the right thing. Rich-boy needs to get over it and fix it himself
donate to charity

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Feb 23, 2007
 
While the Indy Star conveniently added Mr. Baker's salary to the article, it conveniently omitted the fact that Mr. Baker is on record as saying he will donate his settlement dollars to charity if the judge rules in his favor.
Clearly, this has nothing to do with money and everything to do with principles, obeying laws and responsibility.
Jason Baker

West Lafayette, IN

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#11
Feb 23, 2007
 
donate to charity wrote:
While the Indy Star conveniently added Mr. Baker's salary to the article, it conveniently omitted the fact that Mr. Baker is on record as saying he will donate his settlement dollars to charity if the judge rules in his favor.
Clearly, this has nothing to do with money and everything to do with principles, obeying laws and responsibility.
Hopefully, the money will go to Indy-Feral. GO PANTHERS!
roscoe p coltrane

Saint Petersburg, FL

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#12
Feb 23, 2007
 
Listen here, them cats belong to the Duke Boys. I know it I know it. If you let your cats roam in my county, I'll write you a ticket GUK GUK GUK. I am sheriff here...Bart Hogg says so. And get out of my county Baker. You pansies scare me.
Meow

Indianapolis, IN

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#13
Feb 23, 2007
 
If his crawl space was left open, anything or anyone could have crawled under there and damanged the area. Why can't he just fix it and move on? Life is too short. I'm glad he doesn't play for the Colts right now. I would be embarrassed.
Joe

Rushville, IN

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#14
Feb 23, 2007
 
big boy wrote:
i think that lady should pay for the damages in his crawl space. she is responsible for damages to Bakers house. But what about his roommate? from what i have heard, HE IS GAY!
I agree with big boy. the roommate is gay. he lives with a man who constantly wears tight pants and apprears to hate the musical "cats".
I am Involved

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#15
Feb 23, 2007
 
Hey donate to charity, he only mentioned he'd donate it to charity after it caught a little media attention. He was going after the owner's of the house - my 86-yr old grandmother and 93-yr old grandfather who was in the last stages of alzheimer's disease and has since passed on. Jason was fully aware of all of this and when he realized his case against them wasn't a case at all he went after my aunt. Helen is a single mother who lived there to take care of her father. She paid to have the reproduction of the cats stopped, she paid to have them removed twice even though none of this was occurring on her parents property. She did it to prevent further problems and because she has a kind heart towards animals.
You want to talk charity? My grandmother is charity and Helen's actions were charitable.
I am Involved

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Feb 23, 2007
 
Meow Mix wrote:
The case will hinge on this law:
"Every person responsible for any animal located within the City shall ensure that such animal:
"...(j) Is prevented from running at large on property other than private property owned or lawfully occupied by its Owner by means of a leash, chain or other appropriate physical restraint.
"...(m) Does not defecate on the property of another unless the person responsible for the animal immediately thereafter removes or has removed from such property as much of the feces as is reasonably possible."
The question is, is SHE responsible for the animal?
She was responsible enough to feed them.
She was responsible enough to give them water.
She was responsible enough to have them neutered.
She was responsible enough to have them vaccinated.
Yes, I believe she was responsible for those animals.
She is responsible for preventing a massive colony of cats by having them spay/neutered, she had them vaccinated to reduce the possibility of infestation to people and everything else, and she gave them food and water because she's kind-hearted. You want to know what else she's responsible for? She had them removed, TWICE.

What is Jason responsible for? He knowingly provided shelter for them for over a year, while my aunt was trying to contain this problem. He is responsible for the damages because he chose to do nothing for an entire year. He is responsible for the upkeep of his own home. He is responsible for his own negligence and ignorance. Jason, grow up and take responsibility.
Sandpiper Splits

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#17
Feb 23, 2007
 
I often see Jason and 'the roommate' out in Noblesville together. They always went home together after last call and I never thought anything of it. Now it seems that there is more to the story. Unfortunately this is not a popular lifestyle in this type of profession; it's just unfortunate that the angst and frustration is being taken out on the neighbor and her poor kitty cats.
I can appreciate that 'the roommates' identity is being protected through all of the proceedings, but I think itís only fair that he finally comes out of the closet, reveals his identity and shares his own perspective on the story. Who IS this mystery man?
4U4REAL

Rushville, IN

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#18
Feb 23, 2007
 
My neighbor Jason has a squirel feader in his yard. The squirels came into my open crawl space and left feces and damaged the area. Is he responsible for my damages too. My other neighbor Baker has bird feeders and the birds poop everywhere it's a gross mess. Maybe that neighbor is responsible for that. I'm not responsible for anything, you should be happy I live here next to you:)
Honey Love

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Feb 23, 2007
 
Jason, you're a real class act!
A few points

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Feb 23, 2007
 
There doesn't seem to be any facts offered to clearly show that the urine/feces/damage was caused by these specific cats. It could have been other cats, squirrels, racoons.
Having been notified of the presence of the cats, Mr. Baker had a duty to "mitigate the damages." For example, if a water pipe breaks in your bathroom while you are standing there, you have to shut off the water. You can't just let it run until it ruins your house and then ask the insurance company to reimburse you for an entire new house.
Also, the statement "The cat spat developed after Baker's roommate complained in February 2006 about a high heating bill." makes little sense. How large a vent hole does he have in his crawl space, and how much heat could possibly be lost assuming that the thermostat was not in the basement? I'd like to see the bills for several months.
Justice

Noblesville, IN

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Feb 24, 2007
 
A few points wrote:
There doesn't seem to be any facts offered to clearly show that the urine/feces/damage was caused by these specific cats. It could have been other cats, squirrels, racoons.
Having been notified of the presence of the cats, Mr. Baker had a duty to "mitigate the damages." For example, if a water pipe breaks in your bathroom while you are standing there, you have to shut off the water. You can't just let it run until it ruins your house and then ask the insurance company to reimburse you for an entire new house.
Also, the statement "The cat spat developed after Baker's roommate complained in February 2006 about a high heating bill." makes little sense. How large a vent hole does he have in his crawl space, and how much heat could possibly be lost assuming that the thermostat was not in the basement? I'd like to see the bills for several months.
Exactly!!! The neighbor informed him about it, but he did nothing. She acted more responsibly than he did. It's not as if he couldn't afford to fix the damage once he was aware of it, but because he didn't, it obviously became worse. She should not be held accountable for that.

Also agree with the squirrel and bird analogy. Just because people feed them doesn't mean they're responsible for damage they do -- and squirrels can do a lot of damage to attics and roofs!

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