Panther sues neighbor in cat spat

Panther sues neighbor in cat spat

There are 229 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Feb 19, 2007, titled Panther sues neighbor in cat spat. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

In a spat over a cat and her kittens, Carolina Panthers punter Jason Baker, Carmel, is slated for court Wednesday.

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NRA Supporter

Indianapolis, IN

#26 Feb 19, 2007
Agree. She fed and cared for them, they are her responsibility. If he had trapped or killed them, you can sure bet she'd have raised hell.

People, don't feed stray cats. All that does it make them strong enough to have dozens of kitties. If you stop feeding them, they die off and go away. End of problem.

As someone who has had considerable damage from feral cats fed by a neighbor, I hope he wins.
Johnny Cochran

United States

#27 Feb 19, 2007
Gosh, I'm going to sue the paper for wasting my time while I read the article.
JEAN DUFFEY

Alexandria, VA

#28 Feb 19, 2007
This is silly the next thing you know they will sue either animal control or the park service
because a raccon walked into the guys yard.
or a squirrel tore up plants in his yard
or a bat nested in a tree.
or bees made a nest in his yard or
neighbor talked unkindly to him.
this is just a guy looking for money.
Julie

United States

#29 Feb 19, 2007
NRA Supporter "People, don't feed stray cats. All that does it make them strong enough to have dozens of kitties. If you stop feeding them, they die off and go away. End of problem."

Apparently you are very uneducated. Helen had the cats altered so that they would not reproduce (which is something you should look in to). This process is called Trap, Neuter, Return or TNR for short which helps to reduce the overpopulation of feral and stray cats. By spay/neutering, vaccinating, and feeding these cats a stable healthy colony can exist with no further growth. Simply not feeding the cats or altering them contributes to the overpopulation of unhealthy cats and promotes disease. Really, you should look into supporting something other than the right to make yourself feel manly.
Julie

United States

#30 Feb 19, 2007
NRA Supporter "People, don't feed stray cats. All that does it make them strong enough to have dozens of kitties. If you stop feeding them, they die off and go away. End of problem."

Apparently you are very uneducated. Helen had the cats altered so that they would not reproduce (which is something you should look in to). This process is called Trap, Neuter, Return or TNR for short which helps to reduce the overpopulation of feral and stray cats. By spay/neutering, vaccinating, and feeding these cats a stable healthy colony can exist with no further growth. Simply not feeding the cats or altering them contributes to the overpopulation of unhealthy cats and promotes disease. Really, you should look into supporting something other than the right to make yourself feel manly.
Alex

Columbus, IN

#31 Feb 19, 2007
What's wrong with you people? These are living creatures. Also, how does he know it wasn't racoons or opossums that are doing the damage. They are far more destructive than feral cats. If irresponsible pet owners didn't let their unspayed/neutered animals roam, there wouldn't be a feral cat problem. That football player has enough money to put some latticework around his crawlspace to keep cats out. Take care of the issue before it becomes a huge problem.
Kelly Strange

Manchester, OH

#32 Feb 19, 2007
The Feral Cats were there, and would have been there regardless of them being given food and water. She was doing the right thing by participating in the TNR program, it only helps the problem get better. I also know first hand that it helps curb the smell once these animals are Trapped Neutered and Returned, as I have also participated in the TNR program.
coach

Chula Vista, CA

#33 Feb 19, 2007
Get over it Baker....
hot air

Skokie, IL

#34 Feb 19, 2007
Indy Mike wrote:
Once again, here is another case of a stupid law suit. American's are becoming sue crazy! Here is how you should handle it Jason, why don't you get a gun and shoot the cats, or even set up a trap. If you would have dealt with it when it was happening instead of being a panzy this wouldn't be an issue. Take matters in your own hands instead of crying to authorities.
Mike, you have a good point that people are lawsuit crazy. After that, you just come off like a typical Indiana hilljack.

Ever hear of a law that prohibits the discharging of firearms (assuming they are registered etc) in residential areas? How about the fact that he should just hire someone to fix his crappy house? Seems like he's getting paid enough money.

People think the answer to everything is to shoot something or bomb someone. No wonder this country is going to hell in a handbasket.
Animal lover

United States

#35 Feb 19, 2007
If the cats bother him so much why did he not just get a humane animal catcher and take them to the humane society. Or even better have someone go in his crawl space get rid of the cats then board it up. We have cats in our neighborhood and they do less damage than the rabbits that are wild. I think this person needs something else to do so he would not worry so much about the cats!
Paahhhhleeeze

United States

#36 Feb 19, 2007
OK, so there wouldn't be homelss cats in Carmel if people would SPAY and NEUTER their cats and realize that a cat is a LIFETIME committment. The only way to help this feral cat problem is to do exactly what was being done...spay/neuter the strays and feed them! Spaying and neutering costs less than having an agency pick them up and kill them.
Maybe if this guy's house was built better, the cats wouldn't be able to claw their way in for shelter too - how can the cats do that? Sounds like he actually has an issue with his builder.
Read about what Helen and thousands of other people are doing to help homeless, feral, stray and abandoned cats at ...
www.nuvo.net/articles/article_4764
AND
www.nuvo.net/articles/article_1589
los

Carmel, IN

#37 Feb 19, 2007
return them to the country.....I got the same problem with my neighbor..She feeds them they defecate in front of our porch.
gonzogirl

Skokie, IL

#38 Feb 19, 2007
65 cats to every 1 human being...

This is a good opportunity for everyone here to learn about the real problem here, and that is the fact that people are not responsible for their cats. These feral cats came from somewhere - someone abandoned some cats somewhere along the line, or just didn't bother to have their cats fixed and let them breed.

Here's a shocking fact - for every human baby born, there are SIXTY FIVE kittens born. There is absolutely NO defensible reason for anyone to have an unaltered cat. Period. Our city animal control and humane society have to put hundreds - probably thousands of cats down every year because irresponsible people let them breed like...well, like cats.

Here's the good news: Indianapolis has an excellent organization that helps to control the feral cat population. It's a newer group so their impact is just starting to show. Their stray/feral spay and neuter programs are starting to reduce the cat population, which, in turn, reduces the burden on animal care and control. I think that they saved the city something like $30,000 last year through the population reduction programs (they get no funding from the city or any govt).

Check them out at www.indyferal.org . Maybe even make a donation or get involved!
NRA Supporter

Indianapolis, IN

#39 Feb 19, 2007
Julie wrote:
NRA Supporter "People, don't feed stray cats. All that does it make them strong enough to have dozens of kitties. If you stop feeding them, they die off and go away. End of problem."
Apparently you are very uneducated. Helen had the cats altered so that they would not reproduce (which is something you should look in to). This process is called Trap, Neuter, Return or TNR for short which helps to reduce the overpopulation of feral and stray cats. By spay/neutering, vaccinating, and feeding these cats a stable healthy colony can exist with no further growth. Simply not feeding the cats or altering them contributes to the overpopulation of unhealthy cats and promotes disease. Really, you should look into supporting something other than the right to make yourself feel manly.
Apparently you can't read. The first sentence of the story is "In a spat over a cat and her kittens"..

Gee, how did the cat reproduce if it had been spayed or neutered as you suggest? Can we assume everything else you wrote is wrong as well, since you couldn't get this simple thing right?

Despite what places like Indy Feral will tell you, there is no such thing as a "stable healthy colony" of feral cats. Stray cats are highly destructive, carry disease, and should be removed. Kudos to groups who try and save them with TNR, but they CANNOT and DO NOT keep up with the problem.
Alex

Columbus, IN

#40 Feb 19, 2007
I agree that "Mike" has a weird way of solving problems. Shooting the cats is NOT the answer. Ever hear of the vacuum effect? TNR is the answer people, wake up! Why can't we ever solve problems with clear thought and common sense? Why is it always to kill or maim? It makes me sick!
Val

Redwood City, CA

#41 Feb 19, 2007
The Truth hurts wrote:
...by feeding a wild/feral cat or cats, this attracted them to return over and over, in effect making them "hers"...she was caring for them...providing food, water and shelter.
Therefore, they are her property and her property damaged the house.
She pays. Clear cut.
She, as well as many of you, have let the fact the guy is a "big, rough and tough football player" cloud your judgement. You chose to make your comments here, while she chose to ignore him and the property damage he pets causedd to the house.
It sucks, as I'm sure she was simply trying to be kind-hearted and provide sustenance to God's creatures. However, she is liable for the damage due to her taking ownership by providing food, water and shelter to them.
Sweetie--YOU ARE SO WRONG!

I feed the birds and the squirrels in my back yard. Does that make them my property? Does that make me responsible when one of the birdies poop on your car? NO! Wild animals are wild animals. Just because people have domesticated some cats, not all are friendly and sociable. These cats are NOT pets. Give someone some credit for being compassionate!

I suggest that you go to Alley Cat Allies' website to learm more about feral cats. Or the Indianapolis organization which tends to the city's feral cats--www.indyferal.org . There is a compassionate alternative to controlling feral cat populations. Check it out.
Maureen Owen

Newport, KY

#42 Feb 19, 2007
Oh my gosh, the cat used the tree as a scratching post? Now this is ridiculous. Cats can't do any real damage to a crawlspace for one thing, but to complain an animal, a cat of all things, scratching on a tree?? This punter must have some other personal agenda with this person and being vindictive by using the cats?
Or he is just broke and needs some cash? I don't get it.
F Lee Bailey

Lexington, KY

#43 Feb 19, 2007
The Truth hurts wrote:
...by feeding a wild/feral cat or cats, this attracted them to return over and over, in effect making them "hers"...she was caring for them...providing food, water and shelter.
Therefore, they are her property and her property damaged the house.
She pays. Clear cut.
She, as well as many of you, have let the fact the guy is a "big, rough and tough football player" cloud your judgement. You chose to make your comments here, while she chose to ignore him and the property damage he pets causedd to the house.
It sucks, as I'm sure she was simply trying to be kind-hearted and provide sustenance to God's creatures. However, she is liable for the damage due to her taking ownership by providing food, water and shelter to them.
I'm sure you have it all wrong. As my lady client will surely testify in court that she was the victim of the theft of several bowls of milk she innocently left on her porch.
Indy Feral Lies

Indianapolis, IN

#44 Feb 19, 2007
Val wrote:
<quoted text>
Sweetie--YOU ARE SO WRONG!
I feed the birds and the squirrels in my back yard. Does that make them my property? Does that make me responsible when one of the birdies poop on your car? NO! Wild animals are wild animals. Just because people have domesticated some cats, not all are friendly and sociable. These cats are NOT pets. Give someone some credit for being compassionate!
I suggest that you go to Alley Cat Allies' website to learm more about feral cats. Or the Indianapolis organization which tends to the city's feral cats--www.indyferal.org . There is a compassionate alternative to controlling feral cat populations. Check it out.
Indy Feral is a biased source. They are cat lovers, so they will tell you what you want to hear. We had a serious problem with strays in our area about 6 years ago. We contacted Indy Feral and they told us all cats could be trapped, spayed/neutered and returned. If that was done, the population would stabilize and no new cats would move in. They said if the cats were removed, then more strays would move in and the problem would continue.

My neighbor trapped and removed 3 cats and several kittens to the shelter where all were adopted out. We all agreed to stop putting food out and to tighly close garbage cans. Six years later and we are still cat free. No strays. None. Indy feral told us we'd have more strays moving in. They lied. They are biased and do not know what they are talking about.
ogre

Indianapolis, IN

#45 Feb 19, 2007
put out a big dish of antifreeze. problem solved.

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