Beyond the blame game

Beyond the blame game

There are 68 comments on the Baltimore Sun story from Nov 13, 2007, titled Beyond the blame game. In it, Baltimore Sun reports that:

At the Ravens' headquarters, the fashionable colors this fall are black and blue.

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Sparky

Gwynn Oak, MD

#1 Nov 13, 2007
We have seven games left and it is possible, although not probable, to win six of them. I think we match up better against the Patirots than the Colts. That said, Boller. if he is inserted into the starting job, must change his attitude. He approaches games, appearing scared and defensive, rather than offensive and focused on what his is going to do. He seems to look reactive, waiting for something to open up, rather than creating something. It seems to be a fundamental flaw in him as a person. Right now, I do not think it can change. However, I could be wrong. I'd like to see a game, even if they lose, with more discipline, no penalties, more runs of McGahee, 25 to 30 carries. He may not break off for long gains all of the time but it can wear out the defensive line of opposing teams and open up the passing game. However, it has to be a good mix. I think Billick is experiencing a brain freeze, and it filters down to the players.
mdlrvrmuncher

Baltimore, MD

#2 Nov 13, 2007
At this point I hope the Ravens are making plans for Ogden to retire and bringing Rolle back as the nickel back. I think in the case of JO he has had a year off and is not getting healthier, but older. In Rolle's case there were questions about his effectiveness after a stellar career in Tennessee and this extend time off may be beneficial to his health, but not to the future of the team.
Rob

Bethpage, NY

#3 Nov 13, 2007
How about if Billick never won that Super Bowl he would have been fired years ago.
Joe

Erie, PA

#4 Nov 13, 2007
DOES PETER ANGELOS HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THIS?
RavenKen

United States

#5 Nov 13, 2007
Pathetic.
People keeping looking at last years 13-3 record like it was indicative of the caliber of team Bmore has. I'm like a parrot when I say that we have the talent - just not the coaching. Last year's 13-3 was talent overcame coaching. Our talent is less this year (i.e. injuries) but we still don't have coaching. BB has really never done it. These players deserve a good coach.
Josh

Woodbridge, VA

#6 Nov 13, 2007
A much classier organization, the Ravens actually feel remorse for their performance. Do you think the Orioles would ever apologize to fans for their losing?

Since: Sep 07

United States

#7 Nov 13, 2007
Sparky wrote:
We have seven games left and it is possible, although not probable, to win six of them. I think we match up better against the Patirots than the Colts. That said, Boller. if he is inserted into the starting job, must change his attitude. He approaches games, appearing scared and defensive, rather than offensive and focused on what his is going to do. He seems to look reactive, waiting for something to open up, rather than creating something. It seems to be a fundamental flaw in him as a person. Right now, I do not think it can change. However, I could be wrong. I'd like to see a game, even if they lose, with more discipline, no penalties, more runs of McGahee, 25 to 30 carries. He may not break off for long gains all of the time but it can wear out the defensive line of opposing teams and open up the passing game. However, it has to be a good mix. I think Billick is experiencing a brain freeze, and it filters down to the players.
Ah, what the hell. For the umpteenth time I will reiterate that it does NOT matter who our QB is while BB is coach. BB has proven year after year that no matter the caliber of QB he gets, he will make them look avg to below average. Boller had the bad luck to having played under BB. Who knows if he could have been a good QB. I don't know if the damage done by BB can be undone so we may never know. If I was a top college QB in the draft and a BB coached-team drafted me I'd Elway their a$$ and play in a different country. BB can't coach so stop picking on Boller and don't expect the Ravens to get any better until they fire BB.
Rikki

AOL

#8 Nov 13, 2007
Canny, well written article about the fiasco(s). Thanks to Rick Maese.
Waterboy

Bethesda, MD

#9 Nov 13, 2007
Win SIX of the next seven...SPARKY, what have you been smokin????????

With regard to McNair, after last Wednesday's practice he stated "It's not time to panic. We have 8 games left, we're 4 and 4, we're .500, we could be worse than that. WELL, NOW YOU ARE and it is time to PANIC!!!
blitzburghfan

Woodbridge, VA

#10 Nov 13, 2007
OVER AND OUT OF THERE !!!!!
jeffro

Lillington, NC

#11 Nov 13, 2007
The Ravens are a talented football team. I always felt sorry for that offense. It has always been mis-coached. The system sets the players up for failure and then holds them accountable. It makes no use of the talent available. Willis McGehee, Todd Heap, Mark Clayton, Derrick Mason, would all be constant Pro Bowlers in any other system.
jimmy swift

United States

#12 Nov 13, 2007
Its time for a new chapter , lets turn the page and move on , the future is bright . The Team must clean house and start over . I vote for Marty Ball .
Fells Point Craig

Baltimore, MD

#13 Nov 13, 2007
Somebody stop this ride, I want to get off.
Sunshine

Phoenix, AZ

#14 Nov 13, 2007
Hang in their my Ravens, it ain't over until God says it's over.
frox

Lititz, PA

#15 Nov 13, 2007
Shocker that the Sun's columnists and editors don't know that the Dan Patrick Show was replaced with the Mike Tirico show about 6 months ago! Come on guys!!!
Dennis Green

Orlando, FL

#16 Nov 13, 2007
jimmy swift wrote:
Its time for a new chapter , lets turn the page and move on , the future is bright . The Team must clean house and start over . I vote for Marty Ball .
Unfortunately Marty Ball may be our only option.

1) Norville will get canned at the end of the season by SD. Charlie Weiss will leave ND to save his reputation. He'll take the SD job because it is the most talented team with a HC vacancy; plus, he gets to go head to head with Mangini, Crennel, and Belicheck.

2) Coughlin will get canned by the Giants at the end of the season. This is where Billick lands.

3) There are no big name college coaches looking at the NFL - and none will leave a good program to deal with the issues the Ravens have.

4) The next coach will come from the offensive side of the ball; that eliminates Rex Ryan and Mike Singletary.

5) If the team goes old and experienced, its Marty or Mike Martz.

6) If the team goes new, its Russ Grimm.
God

San Jose, CA

#17 Nov 13, 2007
Sunshine wrote:
Hang in their my Ravens, it ain't over until God says it's over.
It's over.
Bud

Smyrna, DE

#18 Nov 13, 2007
Actually I believe Marvin Lewis won tha Super Boul for Baltimore not BB. And to think that this team could even play on the same field as the Colts and NE means you should have a drug test! Sure we have lots of hurt playersa but this offense couldn't score against MAryland w/o a hard time. We will be lucky to win another game this year. Oh yes, we do play the Fins! The thing I fear more than anything is a lost to the fish in FLA!! Don't laugh it could happen and most likely will unless we get the air-mc nair out from under center and let Blller open up the passing plays. I have a lot of friends down there and they are all writing me and saying that's the game they are going to win!!! Sad sad sad day for the good and great players on this team. To bad we don't have a good or great head coach
dobby

Baltimore, MD

#19 Nov 13, 2007
The Cleveland Browns are 2.5 point favorites against the Ravens in Baltimore. It appears that Phil Savage was the brains for the Raven's organization when it comes to evaluating talent.

Ozzie Newsome has had over a decade to improve the Ravens offense. He's failed. The McNair debacle is just the icing on the cake. The owner should probably clean house after this season. Fire Newsome, Billick and cut McNair. When your offense is called unwatchable, when your offense is call an embarrassment to professional football, when your fans start leaving the stadium in droves at the end of the 3rd Qtr, it's time for major changes.
Ali Vali

Apex, NC

#20 Nov 13, 2007
Billick needs to stop calling plays and worry about his job!! Everyone has already seen the offense under Billick. Ranked 28th now and last week we were 25th. I'm thinking after the Browns game, we'll be dead last!! Sounds good, doesn't it?? This season could be well over and by looking at the remaining schedule, I just feel bad for our defense. They've done everything and I don't think we can ask them more. I'm sure we'll still do good against SD, IND and NE. As long as McNair sits, we have a chance. Hang them boots Steve. You ruined our season fella. Thanks a bunch.

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