NFL may start suspending players for violent hits

Oct 18, 2010 Full story: SI.com 222

The NFL could soon start suspending players for dangerous helmet-to-helmet hits, vice president of football operations Ray Anderson told The Associated Press on Monday.

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Redmond, WA

#1 Oct 18, 2010
DON'T RUIN THE GAME!

"As a defensive player, you have to think about how you hit somebody now, which is totally ridiculous to me," Bell said. "You're trying to get a guy down. Sometimes you get caught leading with your helmet. When you're going to tackle a guy full speed, you can't really think,`Oh, I have to hit this guy a certain way.' You have to get him down as best you can. Sometimes it's helmet to helmet, which guys aren't trying to do, but that's just the way it is. It's part of the game."

Football is physical...live with it.
Stop the chickification of the NFL!

“Captain Yesterday's the Future”

Since: Oct 10

New New York

#2 Oct 18, 2010
About time. That creep Harrison for the Steelers should be suspended for the rest of the season for a) his dirty hits on Massaquoi and Cribbs, and b) his statement that he's "out to hurt" opposing players.

Even more disgusting - NEITHER of his dirty hits were flagged by the pro-Pittsburgh zebras! Unbelievable.

Something needs to be done. NOW.

Since: Dec 08

Latrobe, PA

#3 Oct 18, 2010
Captain Yesterday wrote:
About time. That creep Harrison for the Steelers should be suspended for the rest of the season for a) his dirty hits on Massaquoi and Cribbs, and b) his statement that he's "out to hurt" opposing players.
Even more disgusting - NEITHER of his dirty hits were flagged by the pro-Pittsburgh zebras! Unbelievable.
Something needs to be done. NOW.
Talk about yellow journalism...

He (James Harrison) didn't say he was out to hurt anyone. The tackle on Massauoi was legal and within all rules, the television crew, which included Solomon Wilcotts, were repeatedly stating that tackle should draw a fine. Why? Look at the replay and slow it down. Harrison's hands were first to hit the receiver, and then his left shoulder. Followed by his helmet hitting his back, and then both helmets hits as Massaquoi buckles down and Harrison goes upright.

It should be noted, Massaquoi was in the process of touching and attempting to possess the football.

The tackle made on Cribbs was also within the rules. Cribbs was the ball carier, where by definition, he is not a 'defenseless receiver.' His head was lowered and Harrison was coming at a downward angle towards his own defensive side of the field. Based on ones' anatomy, Harrison's head is attached to his neck, via the shoulders. His head will appear first. Their helmets clanked, which is a by product of being tackled in said situation. If Cribbs is running upright, Harrison's shoulder and helmet hit Cribbs in the hip.

Its unfortunate that Cribbs had to leave the game, but that is part of the game. Cribbs is a good player and he will be back. Sometimes injuries happen and their was nothing egregious about tackles from Harrison, these were form tackles exactly how one is taught from the pee-wee ranks on up.
viking woman

Richland Center, WI

#4 Oct 18, 2010
huh,,, they should have implemented this a year ago, and the Saints would have went down in history the only team with no defense players due to suspensions, they were dirty last year, and they were out to KILL! not hurt, they did not deserve the SB, and in my opinion they never will,, it was a tainted trophy earned by dirty deads, and topped off by dirty officials.
NW Hominid

Auburn, WA

#5 Oct 18, 2010
Cheap shots are pretty obvious, so is tripping...

“The Lee”

Since: Jan 08

Austin, MN

#6 Oct 18, 2010
viking woman wrote:
huh,,, they should have implemented this a year ago, and the Saints would have went down in history the only team with no defense players due to suspensions, they were dirty last year, and they were out to KILL! not hurt, they did not deserve the SB, and in my opinion they never will,, it was a tainted trophy earned by dirty deads, and topped off by dirty officials.
I completely agree! Look how the Saint's went after Brett Favre.

“The Lombardi Sixpack”

Since: Feb 08

Butler, PA

#8 Oct 19, 2010
maybe they should just start playing flag football. that would limit the injuries big time.

“Captain Yesterday's the Future”

Since: Oct 10

New New York

#9 Oct 19, 2010
Biff 33 wrote:
<quoted text>Talk about yellow journalism...
He (James Harrison) didn't say he was out to hurt anyone. The tackle on Massauoi was legal and within all rules, the television crew, which included Solomon Wilcotts, were repeatedly stating that tackle should draw a fine. Why? Look at the replay and slow it down. Harrison's hands were first to hit the receiver, and then his left shoulder. Followed by his helmet hitting his back, and then both helmets hits as Massaquoi buckles down and Harrison goes upright.
It should be noted, Massaquoi was in the process of touching and attempting to possess the football.
The tackle made on Cribbs was also within the rules. Cribbs was the ball carier, where by definition, he is not a 'defenseless receiver.' His head was lowered and Harrison was coming at a downward angle towards his own defensive side of the field. Based on ones' anatomy, Harrison's head is attached to his neck, via the shoulders. His head will appear first. Their helmets clanked, which is a by product of being tackled in said situation. If Cribbs is running upright, Harrison's shoulder and helmet hit Cribbs in the hip.
Its unfortunate that Cribbs had to leave the game, but that is part of the game. Cribbs is a good player and he will be back. Sometimes injuries happen and their was nothing egregious about tackles from Harrison, these were form tackles exactly how one is taught from the pee-wee ranks on up.
I'm not a journalist, but you're full of crap. "Not out to hurt anyone?"

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/footbal...

Try again. Even if the Cribbs tackle was borderline, the Massaquoi hit was dirty. Harrison is dirty. Harrison should be fined and suspended.

Head-hunting needs to END, and it needs to end NOW. Otherwise you're going to see more long-term damage and probably someone getting paralyzed...again (remember Darryl Stingley?). Happened in the Rutgers-Army game last weekend, incidentally.

Wake up and stop enabling this behavior.

“Captain Yesterday's the Future”

Since: Oct 10

New New York

#10 Oct 19, 2010
Bob Roberts wrote:
maybe they should just start playing flag football. that would limit the injuries big time.
Or maybe you could discuss the issue intelligently and stop putting up ridiculous strawmen.
Glasnos

Fabens, TX

#11 Oct 19, 2010
Biff 33 wrote:
<quoted text>Talk about yellow journalism...
He (James Harrison) didn't say he was out to hurt anyone. The tackle on Massauoi was legal and within all rules, the television crew, which included Solomon Wilcotts, were repeatedly stating that tackle should draw a fine. Why? Look at the replay and slow it down. Harrison's hands were first to hit the receiver, and then his left shoulder. Followed by his helmet hitting his back, and then both helmets hits as Massaquoi buckles down and Harrison goes upright.
It should be noted, Massaquoi was in the process of touching and attempting to possess the football.
The tackle made on Cribbs was also within the rules. Cribbs was the ball carier, where by definition, he is not a 'defenseless receiver.' His head was lowered and Harrison was coming at a downward angle towards his own defensive side of the field. Based on ones' anatomy, Harrison's head is attached to his neck, via the shoulders. His head will appear first. Their helmets clanked, which is a by product of being tackled in said situation. If Cribbs is running upright, Harrison's shoulder and helmet hit Cribbs in the hip.
Its unfortunate that Cribbs had to leave the game, but that is part of the game. Cribbs is a good player and he will be back. Sometimes injuries happen and their was nothing egregious about tackles from Harrison, these were form tackles exactly how one is taught from the pee-wee ranks on up.
Letting your team loyalty overrule your judgement there aren't you goldie? Harrison hit both players in the head with the TOP of his helmet. No coach ever teaches anyone to hit like that. You are supposed to keep your head up. Harrison hit the receiver from the side, and the loud clack of helmet to helmet could be heard clearly all over the stadium. If that hit was legal, then there should be no penalty for any helmet to helmet hit. How that was not called by the officials is a mystery. Rooney must be a big contributor to the refs retirement fund.
you must be joking

Peoria, IL

#12 Oct 19, 2010
Without checking with Messrs.Funk & Wagnall,Noah and Merriam Webster or Thorndike and Barnhart, I believe the definition of the verbs 'Hit' and 'Tackle' are different. The primary personal tools the Good Lord gave us for for tackling are arms and hands.

“The Lombardi Sixpack”

Since: Feb 08

Butler, PA

#13 Oct 19, 2010
Captain Yesterday wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not a journalist, but you're full of crap. "Not out to hurt anyone?"
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/footbal...
Try again. Even if the Cribbs tackle was borderline, the Massaquoi hit was dirty. Harrison is dirty. Harrison should be fined and suspended.
Head-hunting needs to END, and it needs to end NOW. Otherwise you're going to see more long-term damage and probably someone getting paralyzed...again (remember Darryl Stingley?). Happened in the Rutgers-Army game last weekend, incidentally.
Wake up and stop enabling this behavior.
you sound like some kind of cream puff buddy. if you don't like football don't watch it. lol. you go over the middle against the steelers and you are going to get thumped. that's how the game is played. people get hurt but they know the risks going in. people get hurt in baseball too. so what. Harrison is a mean sob but he is not a dirty player, he's just stronger than most other players. both hits were legal how can it be dirty? maybe you should tune in to golf or tennis. lmao! wimp.

“The Lombardi Sixpack”

Since: Feb 08

Butler, PA

#14 Oct 19, 2010
Captain Yesterday wrote:
<quoted text>
Or maybe you could discuss the issue intelligently and stop putting up ridiculous strawmen.
what's to discuss? you run the ball and you will get hit. all ball carriers know that. you go over the middle and you will get hit, all receivers know that. i've never seen two KOs in one game by a linebacker but man was that fun to watch! loved seeing those guys limping off the field. Drop the hammer on those cleveland clowns! took the fight right out them.

LET'S GO BLACK AND GOLD!!!

“The Lombardi Sixpack”

Since: Feb 08

Butler, PA

#15 Oct 19, 2010
Glasnos wrote:
<quoted text>
Letting your team loyalty overrule your judgement there aren't you goldie? Harrison hit both players in the head with the TOP of his helmet. No coach ever teaches anyone to hit like that. You are supposed to keep your head up. Harrison hit the receiver from the side, and the loud clack of helmet to helmet could be heard clearly all over the stadium. If that hit was legal, then there should be no penalty for any helmet to helmet hit. How that was not called by the officials is a mystery. Rooney must be a big contributor to the refs retirement fund.
you're a dipsh!t dude. the first hit cribbs cut back into the middle and harrison nailed him coming across and hustling to the ball. it's legal to hit a ball carrier with your helmet. if cribbs had stayed upright he would have been hit in his torso. toughshit for him. the second hit wasn't helmet to helmet. harrison took him out with his shoulder and forearm and it was a glorious hit. the crack you heard were pads dufus. have you ever played the game? didn't think so.

“The Lombardi Sixpack”

Since: Feb 08

Butler, PA

#16 Oct 19, 2010
you must be joking wrote:
Without checking with Messrs.Funk & Wagnall,Noah and Merriam Webster or Thorndike and Barnhart, I believe the definition of the verbs 'Hit' and 'Tackle' are different. The primary personal tools the Good Lord gave us for for tackling are arms and hands.
clearly you never played the game right? you hit with your shoulder pads and wrap them up. arm tackles are run through all the time. nobody teaches arm tackles. did you ever see anyone try to "arm tackle" jerome bettis? it was called a "bus ride" LMAO!!

LET'S GO BLACK AND GOLD!!!!
Glasnos

Fabens, TX

#17 Oct 19, 2010
Bob Roberts wrote:
<quoted text>
you're a dipsh!t dude. the first hit cribbs cut back into the middle and harrison nailed him coming across and hustling to the ball. it's legal to hit a ball carrier with your helmet. if cribbs had stayed upright he would have been hit in his torso. toughshit for him. the second hit wasn't helmet to helmet. harrison took him out with his shoulder and forearm and it was a glorious hit. the crack you heard were pads dufus. have you ever played the game? didn't think so.
Another Pittsburg dufus. Pads do not clack when you hit someone from the side ... and read the accounts ... only you deny it was a helmet to helmet hit on the receiver ... You live in your own little tiny world. Even now, the NFL is reviewing the Harrison hits to determine any punitive action. The helmet to helmet rule was specifically made to protect receivers when their attention is solely on catching the ball. If they allow the Harrison hit ... then just throw the helmet to helmet rule out. The officials completely blew the call.

“The Lombardi Sixpack”

Since: Feb 08

Butler, PA

#18 Oct 19, 2010
Glasnos wrote:
<quoted text>
Another Pittsburg dufus. Pads do not clack when you hit someone from the side ... and read the accounts ... only you deny it was a helmet to helmet hit on the receiver ... You live in your own little tiny world. Even now, the NFL is reviewing the Harrison hits to determine any punitive action. The helmet to helmet rule was specifically made to protect receivers when their attention is solely on catching the ball. If they allow the Harrison hit ... then just throw the helmet to helmet rule out. The officials completely blew the call.
again, you either didn't play the game of football or you're dainbramaged. lol! i watched the hit about 15 times and it is beautiful. harrison jacked him up. the clack are the pads popping. harrison lowered the whammy and hit him with his forearm and shoulder pads.... something you clearly have never experienced. have you even watched the hit before you spewed you nonsense? he hit the receiver almost dead on. the cribbs hit was from the side, helmet to helmet and perfectly legal. got brains? didn't think so.

“Ave Satanas”

Since: Dec 06

Bratislava, Slovakia

#19 Oct 19, 2010
This game is getting more sissified every year!

Since: Dec 08

Latrobe, PA

#20 Oct 19, 2010
Captain Yesterday wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not a journalist, but you're full of crap. "Not out to hurt anyone?"
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/footbal...
Try again. Even if the Cribbs tackle was borderline, the Massaquoi hit was dirty. Harrison is dirty. Harrison should be fined and suspended.
Head-hunting needs to END, and it needs to end NOW. Otherwise you're going to see more long-term damage and probably someone getting paralyzed...again (remember Darryl Stingley?). Happened in the Rutgers-Army game last weekend, incidentally.
Wake up and stop enabling this behavior.
Your taking the word 'hurt' way out of context compared what Harrison said in the post game presser Sunday, late afternoon.

Massaquoi was in the process of catching the ball, is Harrison suppossed to give him a butt slap? No, you need to make the play as a defender...as I said, what the replay -- his hands hit first, then his arm & shoulder, then helmets. When shoulder pads hit something, they also make a sound.

Yes, I remember Darryl Stingley...why is he the one we bring up when a cycle of big hits occur? Comparing Harrison's tackle to Tatum's tackle are quite different and too completely different situations.

Injuries, serious or not, can happen at any point during a game, you just gave the latest example with Army-Rutgers.

“Captain Yesterday's the Future”

Since: Oct 10

New New York

#21 Oct 19, 2010
Bob Roberts wrote:
<quoted text>
you sound like some kind of cream puff buddy. if you don't like football don't watch it. lol. you go over the middle against the steelers and you are going to get thumped. that's how the game is played. people get hurt but they know the risks going in. people get hurt in baseball too. so what. Harrison is a mean sob but he is not a dirty player, he's just stronger than most other players. both hits were legal how can it be dirty? maybe you should tune in to golf or tennis. lmao! wimp.
You clearly know nothing about the sport, jerkoff, if you think slamming heads and causing concussions or paralysis are "how the game is played." That kind of headhunting's only become common in recent years as players have gotten away from tackling and into "hitting." Of course, if they miss or the guy doesn't fall down, he goes for a TD and you look like an idiot, but then most of these overpaid geniuses don't care about that.

Neither hit by harrison was clean, but I'd expect that from a "fan" like you, a loudmouth internet tough-guy. Pretty obvious you've never "hit" anything harder than your wife, and then only when she tells you to once a month....LOL

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