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With mini-camp completed, Chicago Bears switching emphasis to N...

There are 55 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Mar 19, 2009, titled With mini-camp completed, Chicago Bears switching emphasis to N.... In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

The end of an uneventful three-day Bears' mini-camp saw a newcomer finish strong, a veteran revert to his old self and a head coach brace himself for the next phase of the process.

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USMC Bears Fan

United States

#44 Mar 20, 2009
Creighton wrote:
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I thought a Marine would be smarter than this. Why don't you go hump it up Mount M##### F##### and clear your head. The Bears have been in the bottom 25 in terms of spending. That 9th ranked payrole only counts if all options in those contracts are met. They were not. Like saying the Bears spent the a lot of money in the off season last year. They didn't, divide the money over 4 years which is how the money is spent and then count only guaranteed money and there spending is in the bottom of the league.
As for Harris and his knee, he was supposed to be getting in shape this off season, you can't get in shape if you can only do a light workout 2 days in a row. This was half speed, no pads, no contact and he his knee didn't hold up. That is not an observation by the writer, it is statment by him. Oh and the coach did comment on it. Most NFL athletes stay in shape year round, Harris needed to get in shape, last year he sucked and his knee was a problem, the knee was suppose to be fine, it's not. The only guys that did not participate in this camp were guys with injuries or recovering from injuries. The Bears have stated there is nothing wrong with his knee but sit a 25 year old twice a week during the season, which is more than anyone else, and now sit him during mini camp cause his knee is botherng him still. But there is nothing wrong with it? Sure there isn't.
I stand corrected.

I wasn't arguing so don't question my intelligence. If you want to make it personal, fine. I was going by the info I get out here which is limited. I also was deployed twice in the last three years so excuse me if I had better things to do than examine guranteed contract numbers.

United States

#45 Mar 20, 2009
Mgray wrote:
If anyone is paying attenion, T Harris is done.
He has been done, 2 seasons ago

Santa Paula, CA

#46 Mar 20, 2009
Are you serious? You mean to tell me that after whining about being paid like one of the best D linemen in the league, then getting your payday, then having a lousy season on the field, and having PLENTY of time to get in shape, we still need to coddle Tommie Harris. Is his knee still in bad shape? Did he not due his due diligence in rehab? If he did not and is still not working out the way one of the top 5 linemen in the league are being paid, then why the hell did Angelo fork out the cash? Did the Bears screw up and give damaged goods a huge contract? This needs to be resolved.

United States

#47 Mar 20, 2009
since they put a ton of money in players and coaches on defense I hope they only draft offense this year. they need to take o-linemen and recievers only the first 4 rounds.
sean c

Bethlehem, PA

#48 Mar 20, 2009
is anyone else getting tired of hearing about tommie harris' knee, i mean come on already doesnt his knee ever heal!!what next chris williams gonna be held out because of back problems!

San Mateo, CA

#49 Mar 20, 2009
The Bears coach soft
The Bears play soft
The Bears are soft
Nobody is afraid of playing the Chicago Bears under this regime. Can you imagine how the Bears would get eaten up playing the Steelers or Ravens on a regular basis? Dear lord. They're not even close to having the talent OR mentality to be a Super Bowl Champion.
When will Tommy become Tom?

Solana Beach, CA

#50 Mar 20, 2009
Hey Bear Fans, thought I’d take a look at Angelo’s DRAFT performance, so I looked at rounds 1-3 every year since he’s been here.
Just as a reminder, in the 4 years from ’80-’84 pre-Angelo, in rounds 1-3 the Bears took:
Wilbur Marshall, Rivera, Covert, Gault, Richardson, Duerson, McMahon, Van Horne, Singletary, Otis Wilson and Suhey.

The analysis left me wondering how this guy Angelo still has a job.
I’d have to implicate Lovie too, since I’m sure he has a voice in who is drafted.

Summary – 26 guys taken, rounds 1-3

Only 7 could be considered stars, better than average, or looks promising.

19 of the 26 “top 3 round” draft choices have either been total busts, injured, early cuts, slightly above average, but left in free agency, or average or below.

Star – 2 (Hester, Briggs)
Note: I think Briggs is borderline in this category

Looks promising – 3 (Forte, Harrison, Olsen)

Better than Average, still with us – 2 (T. Harris, Tillman)
Note: to me, Harris has missed or played subpar in too many games to be considered a star.

(some players fit in more than 1 category)
Injured off the bat, shortly thereafter, or frequently in their career – 7 (C. Williams, Olsen, Dvorcek, Bradley, Harris, Grossman, Colombo)

Cut within a year or two or on the bubble – 4 (Bazuin, Wolfe, Okwo, R. Williams)

Total Busts, non-injury related- 3 (Benson, Tank, Terrell)

Better than Average (barely), left via free agency – 2 (Berrian, Thomas)

Average or Below – 6 (Bennett, D. Manning, Haynes, Grossman, Metcalf, Gandy)
Note: Funny, we’ve kept 4 of the 6 average or below guys.

Chicago, IL

#51 Mar 20, 2009
bhawks61 wrote:
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This is why the Bears refuse to put a good product on the field. McCaskey shouldn't change a thing when he has fans stuffing his pockets.
Guarantee me season tickets only when they are good, and I will stop paying for mine when they are bad. I guess that's considered a true fan in your world.
Tyrone Washington III

New York, NY

#52 Mar 20, 2009
They must think Tommie Harris is the second coming of Joe Greene/Merlin Olsen/Fred Dean.


Since: Sep 08

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#53 Mar 20, 2009
Ricardo wrote:
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Guarantee me season tickets only when they are good, and I will stop paying for mine when they are bad. I guess that's considered a true fan in your world.
The game has changed. The owners, gms,coaches, and players treat this like a business. So should the fans. This is not your daddy's football league anymore. If you and others want to keep your tickets. Fine by me do what you want. You worked for it you earned it. But when the Bears stink it up on the field no boos or cursing the players/coaches because with that money spent you have accepted the product long before they stepped on the field. You bought the lemon now tow it home.

Since: Sep 08

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#54 Mar 20, 2009
Tommie Harris can't stuff the run or occupy 2 blockers and with the knee problems. He can sack the QB. I'm not a doctor but maybe he ought to just slim down and have him play DE. He might be putting on too much weight on that knee.

Me personally I would cut him. He is damaged goods.

Wayne, IL

#55 Mar 20, 2009
philherb wrote:
Am I mistaken it is March? Tip top shape? Until you have regular practices with regular hitting nobody is in what you so often hear "game shape". He was hurt last year, which probably explains why he has taken "offseason" off, to rest, get healthy, again tip top shape in March who cares......

No one expected him to be in "game shape".

This was a 3-day, non-contact, trot around !!

If he can't handle THAT .......... he's TOAST !


Casa Grande, AZ

#57 Mar 21, 2009
Ricardo wrote:
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I've been wondering the same thing. The worse part is I actually paid for my season tickets last night. Luckily according to Lovie the Bears are close so it should be a good season.
And that explains why the bears don't need to improve. Sales are good.

United States

#58 Mar 21, 2009
Bears fan in NY wrote:
Not in tip top shape? Tommie's paid how many zillions of dollars and he can't stay in tip top shape? What a joke.
It doesn't mean physically. He had an injury. You can't just heal an injury. You have to work hard to get it back to strength and full form.
USMC Bears Fan

United States

#59 Mar 24, 2009
Jeff wrote:
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And that explains why the bears don't need to improve. Sales are good.
Well yeah, it's either pay for the season tickets or give them up and go to the end of the waiting list, which at one point was 12 years.

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