Bears quarterback Kyle Orton's eyes a...

Bears quarterback Kyle Orton's eyes at issue

There are 20 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Dec 26, 2008, titled Bears quarterback Kyle Orton's eyes at issue. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

Ron Turner respects opinions of ex- NFL quarterbacks. However, the Bears' offensive coordinator disputes ESPN analyst Ron Jaworski's assessment that Kyle Orton often stares down receivers.

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Josh

Des Moines, IA

#1 Dec 26, 2008
Orton's eyes aren't the problem. Its his arm and lack of talent of both himself and his supporting cast.
massbearsfan

Brighton, MA

#2 Dec 26, 2008
At what point does someone other than the quarterback stand up and take some responsibility as well. If Pep Hamilton is so great then why is it that the QB's aren't shaping up...every year its one thing or another, but never the emphasis on recruiting a quality player at that spot. I'm not going to keep blaming the QBs...they can do only as much as they are capable of...
Bob l

United States

#3 Dec 26, 2008
How can you evaluate a QB when he doesn't have any wide receivers. This applies to Grossman as well as Orton.

The bad guys found out about 4 games into the season you don't have to cover the wide outs you have to cover the tight ends. Since then Ortons numbers have gone down.
SoCal Bears Fan

El Centro, CA

#4 Dec 26, 2008
I think it is more to do with his arm than his eyes. He cant hit wide open recievers past 10 yards. He stinks!
Pete

Texarkana, AR

#5 Dec 26, 2008
8 straight days of football
Sunday the 28th it begins.
Four or five NFL games per city are nationally televised and at least half of them have incredible playoff implications.
Then, it's bowl mania...
Monday's most interesting game is the Alamo Bowl, which is a stretch. Mizzou has to redeem themselves against Northwestern, blah
But from there it gets better and better
Holiday, Chikfila, Gator and Rose, Cotton and Sugar through the new year.
Then next weekend you got the NFL playoffs, two games each day, followed by the Fiesta Bowl.

then wait three days and see the BCS game in 3D
BearsFan2

Bradenton, FL

#6 Dec 26, 2008
Gosh, whatever anybody does, don't criticize Kyle Orton.

He's really good right now, and doesn't need interfering analysts like Jaws showing actual replay of his faults and offering suggestions on how he could improve. After all, that just doesn't fit with Bears public relations as they prepare Bears fans for the long term contract they are soon going to be offering him. Of course, Orton will have to "think about it for a while" before signing the thing.

Kyle Orton....ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha, ha.

PS - Hey Kyle, do yourself a favor, don't sign the new contract and instead get another "great" year under your belt before heading into free agency. That way you'll get even bigger money in two years. After all Brady can't play forever!

Kyle Orton - ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha
jerseyboy

Bridgewater, NJ

#7 Dec 26, 2008
ron turner coming out and speaking up for kyle orton doesn't suprise me at all. sounds like the shh for brains behind the offense is starting to realize his time in chicago will be over in a day now. turner has failed at just about everything possible and as for pep hamilton i really think he has no clue on how to develop a qb. this entire coaching staff is a joke. kyle orton is probably the worst nfl starter i've seen with a really good rb and offensive line. when i want hope i just got back to rex's rookie year and 06 and watch some of his games. rex had some serious talent and the bears blow the gasket trying to get turner to teach him this shh of a offense. i've heard quite a few ex nfl qb talk about rex before and many of them think that if he has some talent around him could be very good. Terry Bradshaw, Jaws, Jimmy Jonhson(not a qb but hof coach). people with real talent knows rex can play it's just the stupid media like puppet boy haugh and espn that spread halas hall bs propaganda. resign rex and realize the guy can be better if you give him a real offensive coordinator. haugh get some balls and ejected the cd halas hall has stuck up your rear and condemn ron turner for a change.
kev

Merrillville, IN

#8 Dec 26, 2008
I agree with you jersey Rex has talent but the media and fans have demoralized him to a point where he has no confidence. meanwhile Orton is getting a pass . People dont know orton has started more games than grossman. He started this year like grossman started 06 but he quickly faded soon as defenses figured him out. where are the boos and cat calls for him to be benched To me orton is a backup at best Do I feel that grossman is a star no but he is better than orton when he leaves after this year I hope he goes to the vikings so he could beat the bears every year . It is not the players its bad management and coaching
jeff

Chicago, IL

#9 Dec 26, 2008
I agree Jersey boy and Kev I know Rex has had his problems but hey he lead us to the superbowl because it takes two offense and defense to win games and hey he can throw more than 30 yards and Rex has had alot of chances but two he had a broken leg then torn ACL and last year a sprain now tell me since the last superbowl the Bears won what quarterback lead the bears to the Superbowl but I'm happy for Rex if he goes to another team next year
du valle

AOL

#10 Dec 26, 2008
Bearfan2, Jerseyboy, Jeff, Kev...
Repeat after me

Football is a team sport.
There's no "I" in team.
Rex will be holding a clipboard for another team next year...

What will you guys b-itch and moan about in "09"?
You guys man-crush on Rex is disturbing, and un-natural.
mark

Chicago, IL

#11 Dec 26, 2008
and du valle your man crush on orton is also disturbing jeff said there was no I in team and he wasn't referring to just rex he was just giving him credit for what he done so get over yourself I wish rex the best of luck next year
duvean

AOL

#12 Dec 26, 2008
mark wrote:
and du valle your man crush on orton is also disturbing jeff said there was no I in team and he wasn't referring to just rex he was just giving him credit for what he done so get over yourself I wish rex the best of luck next year
L-O-L
I think Mark can "type" for himself...
Nowhere did I express ANY preference for Kyle Orton.
Let me repeat, I'm a Bear Fan!
If Rex get's in the game Sunday, I'll be hoping he does well. I just find guys like yourself, Mark, Jerseyboy incessant "pining" and "whining" about/for Rex, not only disturbing but selfish and un-becoming of a REAL Bear fan.
That is why I'll be soooooooo glad when he's carrying a clipboard for some team as a 3rd string(inactive) player next year.
Quite frankly, if he went to another team and throws for 30 Td's next year, I'LL(tip my cap, AND STILL be glad he's gone.
The TEAM is about to play the most important game in a few years, and you knuckleheads in here invoking Rex's name. Almost as if the game and the TEAM'S welfare means nothing to you.

So, get over yourself and your "pining" for Rex. it's un-natural for a dude to have such feelings for another dude...
fedup

Redmond, WA

#13 Dec 27, 2008
You Grossman lovers disgust me. The guy can throw the ball a mile - but so could Jeff George - "BFD." The Bears have no one capable of getting open deep on a regular basis, so what's the point?

There is a reason that Orton wears the "C" on his jersey and Grossman never did -- Grossman never took any blame for any of his own deficiencies - nothing was ever his fault.

Orton isn't either of the Mannings, or Brady, or Brees, or Matt Ryan, or Joe Flacco, or even Jeff Garcia - but he DOES have the support and respect of his teammates. He is far more consistent than Grossman is capable of being - niether as specatularly good nor as spectacularly abysmal. And Orton takes the blame, even when it is a teammate's failure.

Let's face facts, the O-Line isn't capable of opening holes for Forte, so the running game is hampered which limites the effectiveness of the passing game. Compounding that, the O-Line are are terrible pass-blockers. Now couple that with the fact that the wide-outs are lousy route-runners and can't get free of even modestly skilled defenders, and you are forced to ask: So who is the QB supposed to throw to? tight ends and the RB out of the backfield are about the extent of it.

The O-Line needs to be replaced, the wide-outs need to be replaced, and most of the D needs to be replaced. Hester has turned into a liability on returns, and certainly hasn't morphed ito a premier wide receiver. With the "talent" on this team, Johnny Unitas wouldn't look very good.

But more importantly, the entire coaching staff and the GM need to be replaced.
BearsFan2

Bradenton, FL

#14 Dec 27, 2008
du valle wrote:
Bearfan2, Jerseyboy, Jeff, Kev...
Repeat after me
Football is a team sport.
There's no "I" in team.
Rex will be holding a clipboard for another team next year...
What will you guys b-itch and moan about in "09"?
You guys man-crush on Rex is disturbing, and un-natural.
1. Yes, football is a team sport. Unfortunately for our team, we are the only one with not a single pass connected over 30 yards.

2. There is no "I" in team, but as we are that only team without a single completion of 30 yards or more, what single player is most responsible....a tackle, a guard, the center, perhaps a receiver? Or, does common sense say that responsibility falls to the QB?

3. Are you saying that while Rex is on our roster that we can not criticize Orton's obvious poor play? That didn't seem to be a problem for anybody when Rex stunk in up!

4.I don't control the tv camera's, but I did notice after the announcers criticized Orton they did flash to Rex on the side lines. Why would that be?
And why is it that you feel we can't comment on it when they do?

Kyle Orton....ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha
Sexy_Rexy

Bresso, Italy

#15 Dec 27, 2008
Bearfan2, Jerseyboy, Jeff, Kev... you guys are right, those Orton lovers don't know shiat about what they are saying. All they know is to suck on Neckbeards long John. I say bring Rex back before its too late, and watch our season go down the drain come this Sunday if Orton starts stinking it up as usual. Its become a habitual habit for him to start trouble up Interceptions in every game so far...
God Bless!.
P.S. Jerseyboy people at yourboyroys.com blog miss you. Please come back!
Done

Chicago, IL

#16 Dec 28, 2008
Let's all just forget the fact that Orton played better this year than Grossman did in 06.

“Let's rock!!”

Since: Oct 07

Aurora, IL

#17 Dec 28, 2008
Done wrote:
Let's all just forget the fact that Orton played better this year than Grossman did in 06.
You bet! Here's the numbers: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players...

This damn season's over for now, Done, you take care & we'll see you by camp next year...hopefully Grossman will be traded to make room for some more talent! I'd be open to see if Hanie is any good, but Orton with a few WR hands out there would be interesting!

Bears did a lot better than I originally predicted, so fuggit, GO BEARS!! I hope they clean out the coaches' locker room by next year!!

Later, man!!
Pete

Texarkana, AR

#18 Dec 29, 2008
i wouldn't say that I am a Texans fan just yet, but I have enjoyed the Bears' games.

I think you would be great with a good pick in the draft. and i am sorry but first and foremost i believe you need a QB

try Graham Harrell at Texas Tech. I think he is a sleeper pick. underestimated.
He is strong, good size, great arm, poised.
he should be a great pick. even better for the BEARS of the windy city.

“Let's rock!!”

Since: Oct 07

Aurora, IL

#19 Dec 29, 2008
Pete wrote:
i wouldn't say that I am a Texans fan just yet, but I have enjoyed the Bears' games.
I think you would be great with a good pick in the draft. and i am sorry but first and foremost i believe you need a QB
try Graham Harrell at Texas Tech. I think he is a sleeper pick. underestimated.
He is strong, good size, great arm, poised.
he should be a great pick. even better for the BEARS of the windy city.
Thanks, Pete! We'll watch out for Harrell! Rock on!
Bill

United States

#20 Dec 29, 2008
jeff wrote:
I agree Jersey boy and Kev I know Rex has had his problems but hey he lead us to the superbowl because it takes two offense and defense to win games and hey he can throw more than 30 yards and Rex has had alot of chances but two he had a broken leg then torn ACL and last year a sprain now tell me since the last superbowl the Bears won what quarterback lead the bears to the Superbowl but I'm happy for Rex if he goes to another team next year
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Do you even READ the crap that you type before hitting the "send" button ???

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