Is It Time for Green Bay Packers' GM ...

Is It Time for Green Bay Packers' GM Ted Thompson to Go?

There are 465 comments on the BleacherReport story from Jan 22, 2010, titled Is It Time for Green Bay Packers' GM Ted Thompson to Go?. In it, BleacherReport reports that:

Ted Thompson has a difficult job amidst much controversy and fan scrutiny. I know, because I am one of his greatest skeptics.

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GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#1 Jan 22, 2010
It is not time for Ted Thompson to go. The end of the 2008 season was the time for Ted Thompson to go. Of course, with 20/20 hindsight the best decision would have been to hire someone better 5 years ago. However, that didn't happen and TT deserved a reasonable chance.

The error of not replacing TT a year ago will be compounded now every year he remains.
Goopher

Chandler, AZ

#2 Jan 22, 2010
You are ridiculous. If you had any clue how much crap TT and everyone else had to put up with concerning the "legend" not wanting to attend anything (TOAs, mini-camps, or help ARod out) you would be advocating a medal for TT and the enire Packer organization. How about how close to the draft he would "honor" the Packer fans and organization by letting them know he was coming back for the last four/five years. "Golly gosh, I may retire, I may not... I'll let you know by April 20th." Fathead must have gotten its name listening to him. Get some facts! "It's not my job to get Aaron Rodger ready to play, it's his job." Funny how much I see Favre on the sidelines teaching TJoke what's going on. Oh, how he has changed... can't wait to see him skip out on the Vikings this spring! Good luck with that... oh, I'm sure Childress has already told him he can take the enire off-season off, so don't worry your dunce caps Viking fans.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#3 Jan 22, 2010
Great, give Ted Thompson a medal. Then replace him with a GM that can surpass the Vikes and regularly win the division again. Perhaps even better things will happen in the process.
packerbacker

Hudson, WI

#4 Jan 23, 2010
this is deffinatly a touchy topic tt is in my opinion the main cause of the packers decline after the departure of ron wolf and mike holmgren, the trouble with brett started after they left and suddenly the was no effort to bring in fresh talent we seen guys like d sharp ryan longwell mark tauscher etc, etc, get shipped out. and how about a rb to help the iron man out? after the down fall of ahman there was no effort to tie down a big name back, dumb luck landed us ryan grant and bam 13-3 one win from the show. i love a rod he's a stud dont get me wrong but this b.s. everyone talks about favre is down right pathetic and shamefull he led us [real fans] back to a place we never knew if we'd see again, and the way it all fell down was truely a sad seen. i'll always be a packer fan but i'll always be a brett favre fan too the guts the glory the true love of the greatest game in sports was uplifting and inspireing and ill miss him like mj or gretzski it was a gift to watch.....as far as tt...keep him here, after all thats gone wrong there's still a great team here and i suppose he's just as responsible for that as the next guy, and he owes it to us to prove his worth. go pack! and now that we're out, go brett!
SoF

Muskego, WI

#5 Jan 23, 2010
Fire someone when they are succeeding, yea, right. What are you, a corporate middle manager?
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#6 Jan 23, 2010
SoF wrote:
Fire someone when they are succeeding, yea, right. What are you, a corporate middle manager?
Ted Thompson is 43-40 with one division title in 5 years. That is not succeeding. Mike Sherman led the Packers to 3 straight division titles before he was replaced by Ted Thompson. I don't hear you or anyone else complaining about that. I know why nobody complains about that. 5 years ago all Packer fans had high standards and high expectations. 5 years of Ted Thompson's failure has some Packer fans believing that finishing 2nd to the Vikings is "succeeding."

Ted Thompson's only real accomplishment is fooling some Packer fans into not only accepting failure, but also believing it is a good thing.
Goopher

Chandler, AZ

#7 Jan 23, 2010
GBPfan wrote:
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Ted Thompson is 43-40 with one division title in 5 years. That is not succeeding. Mike Sherman led the Packers to 3 straight division titles before he was replaced by Ted Thompson. I don't hear you or anyone else complaining about that. I know why nobody complains about that. 5 years ago all Packer fans had high standards and high expectations. 5 years of Ted Thompson's failure has some Packer fans believing that finishing 2nd to the Vikings is "succeeding."
Ted Thompson's only real accomplishment is fooling some Packer fans into not only accepting failure, but also believing it is a good thing.
Mr. Colorado: With all due respect, you are clueless. The Packers have been the youngest team in the league for the last three years running. TT and staff has rebuilt this team on the fly while losing a Hall of Fame quarterback in the process and not skipping a beat. They could have easily been in the playoffs last season, too. They lost multiple games in the last minute that could have swung either way had our defense stepped up. And with the exception of last season, TT and MM has kept the winning going. Do you really think the Vikings are in the same class as the Packers when it comes to players when talking sbout how each team is sitting for the next ten years? You are kidding, right?
wal0645

Yorktown, VA

#8 Jan 23, 2010
Like I said in another post, folks that are so negative should do their research and take a good at our rosters for 2004 and 2005 (TT's 1st year and Sherman's last). Also keep in mind that our cap options were shaky thanks to some shady deals for the likes of folks like Cletius Hunt, Joe Johnson and other scrubbs. Now after reviewing those rosters, take a look at this current year's team.....it's night and day looking at talent and age. We just finished 11-5 and should see more success in the years to come after finishing 13-3 in 2007 and 6-10 in 2008. The trend tells me that someone knows what their doing in GB and TT/MM are a large part of that.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#9 Jan 23, 2010
Goopher wrote:
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Mr. Colorado: With all due respect, you are clueless. The Packers have been the youngest team in the league for the last three years running. TT and staff has rebuilt this team on the fly while losing a Hall of Fame quarterback in the process and not skipping a beat. They could have easily been in the playoffs last season, too. They lost multiple games in the last minute that could have swung either way had our defense stepped up. And with the exception of last season, TT and MM has kept the winning going. Do you really think the Vikings are in the same class as the Packers when it comes to players when talking sbout how each team is sitting for the next ten years? You are kidding, right?
Coulda, shoulda, woulda! The ifs and buts are what separates the good GMs in the league from the Ted Thompsons.

You are clueless. You are not even familiar with the facts. Kept the winning going? TT started by taking the back to back to back Division winning Packers to 4-12 his very first year. He has led the Packers to only one division title since and nearly all the veteran leaderss on that team were drafted by TT's predecessors. This is the third time during the TT era that he has a playoff team to build on for the next season. The last 2 times he took the team in the other direction by going 4-12 & 6-10. Those are the biggest backslides in Packer history. TT has never gotten the Packers to the playoffs unless the Packers had the easiest schedule in the NFL. Expect another backslide next year.

The truth is that without the great QBs, TT's crappy 43-40 record would be much worse. Every GM in the league with great QBs has done much better than Terrible Ted. It is time the QBs stopped carrying his sorry butt. The Packers need a GM that will help the QBs instead of it being the other way around.

The Vikings have 8 Pro Bowl players on their team. Even if Favre doesn't return next season the Vikes will have more than twice as many as the Packers and the same QB that was good enough to help them win the division in 2008. So "yes" sadly the Vikings GM has done a much better job of building a winner than Ted Thompson.

You know what will help the Packers surpass the Vikings? I'll give you a clue: It isn't the same GM that allowed the Vikes to surpass the Packers in the first place! A better GM is the Packers best bet for regaining the status they enjoyed prior to the TT era.
normallylikeyell ow

Clearfield, PA

#10 Jan 23, 2010
I love the excuse that we're the youngest team in the league, 4 years running and counting... We were also the 2nd most experienced (JS Sports) this season. Who's doing is that? The GM. The Colts FYI were #2 last year and this year. I think they're a better team. BTW, the Saints are the 2nd oldest. The Vikings are #8 oldest.
wal0645

Yorktown, VA

#11 Jan 23, 2010
Here is the our roster for 2004 and the team TT inherited. Believe it or not this team actually made the playoffs at 10-6 was was quickly eliminated (at home) by the Vikings 31-17. Of course we all know what happened in 2005 (4-12) when I believe an aging Rivera was not resigned and I recall we didn't have the dough to resign Wahle not to mention age, injuries, and not enough young talent. Look at this roster versus what we have now; still think TT is a moron?????????? Of course some of you and you know who you are, will say time for TT to go; but anyone in their right mind and knows the game will tell you that there is no comparison to this 2004 collection of crummy players (thanks Sherman!!) versus what we now have.

4 Brett Favre QB
7 J.T. O'Sullivan QB
8 Ryan Longwell K
9 Bryan Barker P
11 B.J. Sander P
16 Craig Nall QB
21 Bhawoh Jue CB
22 Nicolas Luchey FB
23 Mark Roman S
24 Joey Thomas CB
26 Jason Horton CB
27 Michael Hawthorne CB
28 Ahmad Carroll CB
30 Ahman Green RB
31 Al Harris CB
33 William Henderson FB
37 Chris Johnson CB
40 Tony Fisher RB
42 Darren Sharper S
44 Najeh Davenport RB
48 Vonta Leach FB
50 Hannibal Navies LB
53 Paris Lenon LB
54 Steve Josue LB
56 Nick Barnett LB
59 Na'il Diggs LB
60 Rob Davis LS
62 Marco Rivera RG
63 Scott Wells C
65 Mark Tauscher RT
67 Grey Ruegamer C
68 Mike Wahle LG
71 Kevin Barry T
72 Brad Bedell OL
74 Aaron Kampman DE
75 Grady Jackson NT
76 Chad Clifton LT
77 Cullen Jenkins DL
78 Steve Morley LG
80 Donald Driver WR
81 Andrae Thurman WR
82 Ben Steele TE
83 Antonio Chatman WR
84 Javon Walker WR
85 Sean McHugh TE
88 Bubba Franks TE
89 Robert Ferguson WR
90 Colin Cole DT
91 R-Kal Truluck DE
94 Kab. Gbaja-Biamila DE
97 Cletidus Hunt DT
98 Kenny Peterson DT
99 Corey Williams DE
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#12 Jan 23, 2010
Hey wal, the Packers won the division in 2004 before getting bounced in the first round of the playoffs. This year the Packers finished 2nd to the Vikings before getting bounced in the first round of the playoffs. A long list of player names isn't necessary. It won't change the fact that TT hasn't improved the team in the last 5 years.
wal0645

Yorktown, VA

#13 Jan 24, 2010
I am illustrating to people how screwed up this team was then....some folks, like you, just know very little about the game. This team in 2004 was coming to the end of its run. Sure they were making the playoffs, but they were no real threat to do anything. How could they with this lineup. Favre was what 35, Sherman was a terrible drafter (outside of Barnett and Walker), so the older guys had no one behind them. The bottom fell out in 2005 (4-12), but thanks to our good fortune, something great did happen for us, we drafted Rodgers which I think many fans (and Favre) were critical of because we had "other" needs. TT has torn this team down and rebuilt it. Most folks like the newer model, but some don't. The team has made the playoffs two of the past three years, and more importantly is in the SB discussion for the next few years. Those are the facts; 13-3 (went farther than any team since those SB ones), 6-10, but bounced back 11-5 and trending up. TT is one of the best GM's in the league.
GB still sucks

Saint Paul, MN

#14 Jan 24, 2010
who cares
normallylikeyell ow

Clearfield, PA

#15 Jan 24, 2010
There's 14 Pro Bowlers on that 04 roster: Favre, Longwell, Green, Harris, Henderson,Sharper, Rivera, Wahl, Kampman, Clifton, Driver, Walker, Frank, KGB. Plus Nick Barnett,Clifton, Tauscher, Wells & Jenkins from the current roster. Paris Lenon's good player too. We currently have 9 Pro Bowlers: Green, Harris, Clifton, Driver, Kampman, Woodson, Collins. Rodgers, Matthews, 5 holdovers from the 04 squad.
Brooks

Lake Forest, IL

#16 Jan 24, 2010
wal0645 wrote:
Like I said in another post, folks that are so negative should do their research and take a good at our rosters for 2004 and 2005 (TT's 1st year and Sherman's last). Also keep in mind that our cap options were shaky thanks to some shady deals for the likes of folks like Cletius Hunt, Joe Johnson and other scrubbs. Now after reviewing those rosters, take a look at this current year's team.....it's night and day looking at talent and age. We just finished 11-5 and should see more success in the years to come after finishing 13-3 in 2007 and 6-10 in 2008. The trend tells me that someone knows what their doing in GB and TT/MM are a large part of that.
Exactly right! TT is doing a good job building for long term future success. Who are we going to get who could do a better job. I don't know who the FA's will be this off season but I hope there will be a quality enough player for TT to grab. I would rather have what we have now than more players like JJ and CC. I was ready to slug TT after the Favre thing, and I still think he was wrong, but he makes many more right decisions than wrong. Keeping players will help win in the future, as other teams will not have the continuity we will have. Not that I think we should fire MM but he needs to continue to improve his play calling and decision making. GO PACK GO!
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#17 Jan 24, 2010
There were only 3 players on the Packers named to the Pro Bowl. The Vikings had 8 this year. Obviously, its not impossible for teams to have improved from 5 years ago. Unfortunately, in the NFC North its the Vikings that have the GM that has done it, not the Packers. Those are the facts. No true Packer fan can be opposed to hiring a GM that can surpass the Vikings.
Reality

Kansas City, MO

#18 Jan 24, 2010
GBPfan wrote:
There were only 3 players on the Packers named to the Pro Bowl. The Vikings had 8 this year. Obviously, its not impossible for teams to have improved from 5 years ago. Unfortunately, in the NFC North its the Vikings that have the GM that has done it, not the Packers. Those are the facts. No true Packer fan can be opposed to hiring a GM that can surpass the Vikings.
The Pro Bowl is a popularity contest, nothing else. If you are going to use that as a guage, you might as well use the team calender sales. FA is a crapshoot, for every Allen out there, you have a Kearney. The vikes got lucky this year and their GM looks like a genius, just like we got lucky in 07, their players are old, other than AD and will fall off next year. The Packers have a great base and with a few additions will be even better next year.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#19 Jan 24, 2010
Alot of people are very confused. Some people think the 2009 Packers were competing with the 2004 Packers. They weren't! They were competing against the 2009 Vikings. While Ted Thompson has failed to make the Packers better, the Vikings GM has made the Vikings better. That is why the Vikings have won the division the last two years and the Packers have not.

Imagine the possibilities if the Packers hire a better GM!
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#20 Jan 24, 2010
It's funny how the TT lovers never have any facts to support their emotional attachment. It is always nothing but bold (and unsupportable)predictions for the future mixed with alot of "ifs" and "buts" and other incredibly lame excuses for his failure.

These are the facts:

This is the third time during the TT era that he has a playoff team to build on for the next season. The last 2 times he took the team in the other direction by going 4-12 & 6-10, the 2 biggest backslides in Packer history. TT's philosophy of "draft some players and pray" seems to only work in years in which the Packers have the NFL's easiest schedule. The Packers don't have the easiest schedule next year. Expect Thompson results again next year.

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