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Since: Jun 08

Apple Valley, MN

#21 Jan 14, 2011
Sarah wrote:
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Sending kids to private schools, charter schools, etc. is merely speeding up the process of the dismantling of public education. For every child that is lost to another type of school, most metro districts lose about $8k. Support public education in Minnesota. Help to make it better. All of us together can fix the funding issues and achievement gap issues.
I fail to see the problem with dismantling of public education?? I'd argue the system is so far gone it's best to dismantle it and start over. Especially since private schools have demonstrated there is a way to achieve equal, if not superior, results for far less money.
Joe Merlot

Cottage Grove, MN

#22 Jan 15, 2011
Sarah wrote:
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Sending kids to private schools, charter schools, etc. is merely speeding up the process of the dismantling of public education. For every child that is lost to another type of school, most metro districts lose about $8k. Support public education in Minnesota. Help to make it better. All of us together can fix the funding issues and achievement gap issues.
A call for the passenger's to go down with the ship? Look, the public schools are what PARENTS make them. If a parent doesn't want to participate and would rather spend the money to send their kids to a private school who will do their job for them, that's up to them. If your stuck with the public school system, you can ensure your child gets a quality education by being an active participant in it. People who bemoan the public school system as a reason for their child's scholastic failures need to take a look in the mirror and state and district officials who claim the same are either spinsters motivated by self interest or naive Utopians(I prefer the spelling utoPEONS). The notion that the public school system can (or should) be able to provide the same level of service as expensive private schools is naive and just plain stupid.
Minnesota teacher

AOL

#23 Jan 16, 2011
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The only reform needed is eliminating the unions.
I have worked as a teacher for 20 years, then as an administrator for another 23 years until I retired last year.

You are very wrong, the problem lies with the Administration and Superintendants, et al. They are making over $200K, in some cases more than the governor of the state. Lets cut out the fat at the top and give back teachers their jobs and what they are suppose to do ---Educate.

As it sits now, the teachers are told to just get the kids to pass certain tests and criteria in order to apease the administrators so they continue to get the state, federal, etc., educational dollars.

If you worked in education on both sides as I have (as well as being a parent) you would know this. The answer is not outsourcing our children's education to shady charter school operators who are not even vetted. Like this foreign group The Gulen Movement under radical islamic Imam Fethullah Gulen.

Read up on why he was exiled from his native Turkey, and why he is even allowed in the USA.
Jonathan Pale

Hoffman Estates, IL

#24 Jan 16, 2011
Some uses "Gulen Charter Schools" nickname and yet tells lies about Gulen inspired schools. Horizon Parents are answering such allegations in their blog http://www.horizonparents.blogspot.com/ America is a place for open minded people unlike you who spreads hatred and enmity. Stop calling Concept managing schools as Gulen charter schools and pick up a different nickname.
Joe Merlot

Cottage Grove, MN

#25 Jan 17, 2011
Minnesota teacher wrote:
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I have worked as a teacher for 20 years, then as an administrator for another 23 years until I retired last year.
You are very wrong, the problem lies with the Administration and Superintendants, et al. They are making over $200K, in some cases more than the governor of the state. Lets cut out the fat at the top and give back teachers their jobs and what they are suppose to do ---Educate.
As it sits now, the teachers are told to just get the kids to pass certain tests and criteria in order to apease the administrators so they continue to get the state, federal, etc., educational dollars.
If you worked in education on both sides as I have (as well as being a parent) you would know this. The answer is not outsourcing our children's education to shady charter school operators who are not even vetted. Like this foreign group The Gulen Movement under radical islamic Imam Fethullah Gulen.
Read up on why he was exiled from his native Turkey, and why he is even allowed in the USA.
You do a very good job of identifying a major and escalating problems with our public school system. Let me take it a step further. It's too flippin big and it isn't local anymore, it's been nationalized and that's not a good thing. OK, nationalized is not exactly correct in the sense that primary funding is at the state and local level, but national and federal government has absolutely taken an active role in driving standards as well as funding over the last 2 decades and it's helped to create an incredibly top heavy public school system that actually detracts from the classroom as sustaining the bureaucratic mess is expensive and funnels money away from classrooms. I would like to see the state and federal board of ed scaled back to policy and regulatory functions and have the funding brought back local. In addition, school districts should be made smaller (each district to have a single primary elemtary, middle and high school with an overflow school or two). You have districts now that have 20+ schools in them and require the bureaucracy to manage that many schools, students and teachers which then drains funds to support, not the students, but the bureaucracy. You are not going to get top administrators to work for less than the going rate, a free market simply doesn't work that way. If you agree that the cost of the bureacrazy is a significant part of the problem, the only way to eliminate that problem is to shrink districts so that you can get by with a principle, local school board and PTA committe's like we did back in the day when we had the best school system around.

As far as the union is concerned, they are also part of the problem as they are part of the bureaucracy. You have a statewide education union that basically plays one school or district against another. And let's be honest, while the union members absolutely have students best interest in mind, union management does not and never has had.

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