BCS breaks tie: Okla. over Texas

BCS breaks tie: Okla. over Texas

There are 7 comments on the Baltimore Sun story from Dec 1, 2008, titled BCS breaks tie: Okla. over Texas. In it, Baltimore Sun reports that:

A week before the final standings are released and the Bowl Championship Series is already ticking people off.

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Mark

New York, NY

#1 Dec 1, 2008
The BCS is a garbage system and will always be flawed.
Pete

Texarkana, AR

#2 Dec 1, 2008
UT fans made a crucial mistake. After their loss to Tech, they unanimously rooted for OU. That was the wrong team to wish to win. It created the three way tie, in which the Big 12 South representative would be decided by the polls. If you are going to complain about the outcome of those polls, you are forgetting the fact that there is a three way tie.
I for one believe UT is better than OU. However, UTís arguments are valid, yet they depend on head to head match-ups. Well, three way ties in this particular case do not pay attention to head to head because all three teams are 1-1 to eachother.
Yes, the polls are wrong. Yes, BCS is wrong. Yes the Big 12 and BCS need to change. But three way ties in records and the five factors that the three teams are also tied in deferred the decision to the rest of the nation.
The Big 12 is irresponsible by letting this happen. They have no majority of the vote in the BCS polls. They have no control over who goes to their own championship.
The Big 12 should learn from this the hardest way possible. By having one team advance, and lose to the SEC. If the Big 12 canít see that this system cost a national title for the conference as a whole, they will never understand.
As a Tech fan, I do not argue for Techís case. I understand the score vs. OU was enough to knock us out of the picture. But we are still 11-1 and part of the three way tie. The only thing I could say is Big 12, you need one more factor in your program, but by the time you make the adjustment it will be too late.
Mark

New York, NY

#3 Dec 1, 2008
Good point...I would rather see Tech face off against Bama or Florida than OU. Tech under Leach has always had incredible bowl games. Part of Tech not being in the equation is the lack of respect the program gets. That can get debated at another time. They have a tougher road to the championship than Okie or UT because they have coaches voting against them. But the entire BCS system is trash in reality because you will never see parity in it. I could go all day into it but it's not worth it. I was pulling for Tech personally. I think they have a very underrated program. Part of the reason that I believe the Big 12 don't have a majority vote is because the BCS system itself was created by a former SEC commissioner. That equals favortism is its own right.
Pete

Texarkana, AR

#4 Dec 1, 2008
So I read this bowl projection.
They have the SEC loser VS Utah in the Sugar
and then Texas VS Ohio State in Fiesta.

BOOO!!!!!

If only Oregon and Oregon State hadnít upset the Rose Bowl.
Imagine Tech vs USC in Cotton Bowl, and
UT/OU vs Alabama/Florida in BCS and Fiesta Bowls.
Pete

Texarkana, AR

#5 Dec 1, 2008
Mark wrote:
Good point...I would rather see Tech face off against Bama or Florida than OU. Tech under Leach has always had incredible bowl games. Part of Tech not being in the equation is the lack of respect the program gets. That can get debated at another time. They have a tougher road to the championship than Okie or UT because they have coaches voting against them. But the entire BCS system is trash in reality because you will never see parity in it. I could go all day into it but it's not worth it. I was pulling for Tech personally. I think they have a very underrated program. Part of the reason that I believe the Big 12 don't have a majority vote is because the BCS system itself was created by a former SEC commissioner. That equals favortism is its own right.
so, OU beat Tech. Is that all? TCU and Cincinatti.
Ok, but they lost to UT
UT beat OU on neutral field (in Texas). Who else?
Kansas St, Oklahoma St. and Missouri
Impressive, but Tech beat em
we beat Oklahoma State and Kansas AND Kansas State, and Texas
i swear, no respect. we are in UT/OU shadows despite identical records
The SEC alumn in the BCS founding iis a great point. The big game is SEC championship and the most hyped of the conferences despite the Big 12's level of competition.
Mark

New York, NY

#6 Dec 1, 2008
I don't get why don't these major conferences at least attempt to play each other during the regular season...Most of the non-conference games that are schedule are with in-state teams. Why don't Texas travel to west va or florida? Better yet, why don't Florida leave the state of Florida for non-conference games for a change? Not only would it mix things up but it would be create interesting matchups that you don't see and will never see in any bowl or championship. USC playing at florida or vice versa. The big wigs want no part of that. The schools would never sign off on it. It would thwart any chance of championship hopes for a lot of teams. That's fine in my book. But more importantly, I think you would get a sense of who is the superior teams and who are pretending to be superior because you are playing quality teams.
Pete

Texarkana, AR

#7 Dec 1, 2008
Mark wrote:
I don't get why don't these major conferences at least attempt to play each other during the regular season...Most of the non-conference games that are schedule are with in-state teams. Why don't Texas travel to west va or florida? Better yet, why don't Florida leave the state of Florida for non-conference games for a change? Not only would it mix things up but it would be create interesting matchups that you don't see and will never see in any bowl or championship. USC playing at florida or vice versa. The big wigs want no part of that. The schools would never sign off on it. It would thwart any chance of championship hopes for a lot of teams. That's fine in my book. But more importantly, I think you would get a sense of who is the superior teams and who are pretending to be superior because you are playing quality teams.
Right again, Mark.
I think that playing Florida Atlantic and Rice and Nevada in non-con games is pointless. Its a waste. Noone cares about how many points you can rack up against a weaker opponent, except in making "wow, what a spanking" remarks.

One thing though. Big 12 is already so hard. If Tech has to play OU, UT, Baylor plus USC, Florida, Ohio State, Oregon; that will make the strength of schedule that much harder to overcome with a 10-12 win season. But ratings would rise in September instead of October.

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