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Heisman, BCS on line in Tech vs. Oklahoma

There are 39 comments on the MSNBC Sports story from Nov 21, 2008, titled Heisman, BCS on line in Tech vs. Oklahoma. In it, MSNBC Sports reports that:

Sam Bradford and The Oklahoma carry the nation's longest home winning streak at 23 games, and this qualifies as the biggest game in Norman since top-ranked Nebraska came calling in 2000.

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“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#21 Nov 23, 2008
BUCKEYE AND NOLE wrote:
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Texas Pete got some real class there...LOL!!! Tech will bounce back unless they accidentally get mauled by the Bears. Roll Tide!!!
I hear ya with that Roll Tide BUCKNOLE !!!!
Dan in Oklahoma

Oklahoma City, OK

#22 Nov 23, 2008
OU can beat anybody right now. The loss to Texas was due to momentum changing calls at crucial moments in the game. Having an inteception taken away and 2 bogus 15 yd penalties that gave Texas the automatic first down when they would have been 3 and out are the calls I am referring too. Even the game commentators all agreed that these were highly questionable calls at best. And Texas only won by 10, despite help from the officiating. And it is not truly a neutral location when OU PLAYS TEXAS IN TEXAS.

Then Texas Tech stuns Texas and then Oklahoma routs Tech. Anyone who saw all these games knows that if they were to play today, Oklahoma would take Texas, and anyone else right now. The Big 12 is the toughest conference this year and Oklahoma is playing just the way a title contender should be.

That said, the BCS sucks as a way to decide a national champion. Eliminating the chance for the "Cinderella Story" is one of the worst things about it. Death to the BCS!
BUCKEYE AND NOLE

State College, PA

#23 Nov 23, 2008
Dan in Oklahoma wrote:
OU can beat anybody right now. The loss to Texas was due to momentum changing calls at crucial moments in the game. Having an inteception taken away and 2 bogus 15 yd penalties that gave Texas the automatic first down when they would have been 3 and out are the calls I am referring too. Even the game commentators all agreed that these were highly questionable calls at best. And Texas only won by 10, despite help from the officiating. And it is not truly a neutral location when OU PLAYS TEXAS IN TEXAS.
Then Texas Tech stuns Texas and then Oklahoma routs Tech. Anyone who saw all these games knows that if they were to play today, Oklahoma would take Texas, and anyone else right now. The Big 12 is the toughest conference this year and Oklahoma is playing just the way a title contender should be.
That said, the BCS sucks as a way to decide a national champion. Eliminating the chance for the "Cinderella Story" is one of the worst things about it. Death to the BCS!
I'll agree with you about getting rid of the BCS.
Pete

Texarkana, AR

#24 Nov 24, 2008
I hope Tech has a chance to bounce back, but I doubt it. The polls never favored Tech, not even vs Kansas in October.

"regular season=playoff"
Ha! The pretzel design of the Big 12 South ruins that gem
OU lost to UT(5) when ranked #1, neutral field
UT lost to Tech(6) when ranked #1, in Lubbock
Tech lost to OU(5) when ranked $2, in Norman

I think that OU will rightfully get their place in national championship. They whooped Tech and lost a close game to UT.
UT played in two close games, but lost one of them.
And of course, Tech lost a huge loss, though we beat UT in a close game.

I wish that game in Norman had been just a dream.
I puked and cried, but I will keep my guns up

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#25 Nov 24, 2008
Pete wrote:
I hope Tech has a chance to bounce back, but I doubt it. The polls never favored Tech, not even vs Kansas in October.
"regular season=playoff"
Ha! The pretzel design of the Big 12 South ruins that gem
OU lost to UT(5) when ranked #1, neutral field
UT lost to Tech(6) when ranked #1, in Lubbock
Tech lost to OU(5) when ranked $2, in Norman
I think that OU will rightfully get their place in national championship. They whooped Tech and lost a close game to UT.
UT played in two close games, but lost one of them.
And of course, Tech lost a huge loss, though we beat UT in a close game.
I wish that game in Norman had been just a dream.
I puked and cried, but I will keep my guns up
hang in there Pete !!!! TT will be alright
Dan in Oklahoma

Oklahoma City, OK

#26 Nov 24, 2008
Pete, OU did not meet Texas on a neutral field. When you play the University of Texas at the Texas State Fair, the home field advantage is all Texas. Who do you think fills those stands? Overwhelmingly Texas fans, that's who. Texas never has to play Oklahoma in Norman, but OU ALWAYS PLAYS TEXAS IN TEXAS during the Texas State Fair.

I thought that Tech was good all year and though I thought OU could take them at home, I never dreamed it would be so lopsided and you have my condolences on that, I'm a Texas Native and I always follow the Texas teams as well, but I still feel that OU is peaking at just the right time and that they can beat anybody right now.
Pete

Texarkana, AR

#27 Nov 28, 2008
Dan in Oklahoma wrote:
Pete, OU did not meet Texas on a neutral field. When you play the University of Texas at the Texas State Fair, the home field advantage is all Texas. Who do you think fills those stands? Overwhelmingly Texas fans, that's who. Texas never has to play Oklahoma in Norman, but OU ALWAYS PLAYS TEXAS IN TEXAS during the Texas State Fair.
I thought that Tech was good all year and though I thought OU could take them at home, I never dreamed it would be so lopsided and you have my condolences on that, I'm a Texas Native and I always follow the Texas teams as well, but I still feel that OU is peaking at just the right time and that they can beat anybody right now.
good point Dan. I see that these rivalries spark so much heated debate that the 11-1 records at the end of the year carry the heat into the national BCS arenas, even if one or two of those teams end up getting their bids withdrawn due to a late season loss on Oklahoma territory.

So it swings both ways in Texas and Oklahoma.
Pete

Texarkana, AR

#28 Nov 28, 2008
My main concern is how the BCS screwed Tech back into UT/OU shadows. At the end of the season, all three teams assumed to be 11-1 are equal in records.
I know we lost to OU. Big time. Still, the records show that our boys accomplished 10 games in a row. Better in streak than UT/OU and identical record.
Come on. Tech was #6 when we beat UT at #1. Now we are #7.

The Big 12 needs a playoff in event of 3way ties. Still the problem is: 3 teams in one game?

Cotton Bowl games used to be cool back the SWC days. Now, Tech vs LSU just doesn’t seem so great of a matchup. Even Ol Miss, who beat Florida and almost beat Alabama, carries a 7-4 record.
11-1 doesn’t mean anything if you are up against two powerhouse ex champion teams in your conference of equal standing?
Dan in Oklahoma

Oklahoma City, OK

#29 Nov 28, 2008
Pete, I agree on the need for some sort of Big 12 playoff system in the event of ties. It appears that there will be no fairness otherwise. And I agree that Texas Tech fell too far from their one loss, even if it was a bad one. It's strange to me that Tech is at #7 and UT at #2 when Tech has the same record as UT and won against them. I don't know of any fair way to shake this all out in the Big 12 without a playoff. And of course, I feel the same way about the BCS championship.
Pete

Texarkana, AR

#30 Nov 29, 2008
Hey, I see the scoreboard. I see the ranks and understand the severity of the loss.
It happens that way. But Tech's sudden loss of respect over one game? It doesn't mean that the 12 game winning streak was a fluke. Seriously.

The BCS just isn't representing itself well in this scenario. If BCS was a person, he would be suicidal this year. Either that or really mad at Big 12 South.
The triangular pretzel tie between Tech, Texas, Oklahoma make BCS obselete. Time for a new system.

However, I don't see three way ties happening every season. It just would suck for two of the three teams. 11-1 season reduced to non BCS bowl, or robbed of the Big12 or National championship shots. And worst of all, the team or teams above you have the same record in your division. "that should be me"
Dan in Oklahoma

Oklahoma City, OK

#31 Nov 29, 2008
It's true that it is a BCS Mess with no fairness whatsoever in situations like this year. And with so much doubt as to whether the right team gets to go to the big games.
Pete

Texarkana, AR

#32 Nov 30, 2008
Dan in Oklahoma wrote:
It's true that it is a BCS Mess with no fairness whatsoever in situations like this year. And with so much doubt as to whether the right team gets to go to the big games.
Yeppers. and the Big 12 South exploits it with the most random of events. This three way tie shows the Big 12 scenario needs to be considered in the future.
Oklahoma State and Baylor lost, but showed their emergence to come. Tech is not to ever be underestimated again.
Texas and Oklahoma still reign true to their old glories.

BCS has to pick from two teams(out of three)and they will pick Oklahoma. Texas will be angry.

There are many ideas floating around about how the BIG12South rep should be determined.
Point differential: OU would go from the amount of points they put up vs Tech. This is the old way. I thought the BCS was unpopular. The better argument is...
Playoffs: These three teams had their shots. They tied. So WHAT IF UT and OU both get .986avg BCS ratings? Major controversy.
UT says the tie-breaker is 45-35, I agree.

but the BCS is not fair.

“YO BOO”

Since: Sep 07

land of BOO

#33 Nov 30, 2008
Pete wrote:
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Yeppers. and the Big 12 South exploits it with the most random of events. This three way tie shows the Big 12 scenario needs to be considered in the future.
Oklahoma State and Baylor lost, but showed their emergence to come. Tech is not to ever be underestimated again.
Texas and Oklahoma still reign true to their old glories.
BCS has to pick from two teams(out of three)and they will pick Oklahoma. Texas will be angry.
There are many ideas floating around about how the BIG12South rep should be determined.
Point differential: OU would go from the amount of points they put up vs Tech. This is the old way. I thought the BCS was unpopular. The better argument is...
Playoffs: These three teams had their shots. They tied. So WHAT IF UT and OU both get .986avg BCS ratings? Major controversy.
UT says the tie-breaker is 45-35, I agree.
but the BCS is not fair.
Pete TT is not ready for the big show !! sorry pal Baylor had them on the ropes !!!! ROLL TIDE !!!!#1
Dan in Oklahoma

Union City, OK

#34 Dec 1, 2008
The real injustice is for Texas in that they should be playing Oklahoma for the Big 12 Championship, not Missouri. The best two teams in the Big 12 are Oklahoma and Texas and they should play in Kansas City, a truly neutral location and a game that I think OU would win. I think the OU/Missouri game will be lopsided as Missouri has no business playing in the BIg 12 Championship.
Dan in Oklahoma

Union City, OK

#35 Dec 1, 2008
To add to my last comment, even though I am for OU these days, I still think that there should be a playoff to decide the outcome, so that OU, UT, and TT could all prove who was the best.
BUCKEYE AND NOLE

State College, PA

#36 Dec 1, 2008
Dan in Oklahoma wrote:
To add to my last comment, even though I am for OU these days, I still think that there should be a playoff to decide the outcome, so that OU, UT, and TT could all prove who was the best.
Yea, even Stoops had admitted that Texas and the others are looking in from the oustside. Mack Brown isn't really a happy camper. Its unfair bc Texas did beat OU and they should play on a neutral field like you mentioned. I hope some type of miracle takes place and the spiritual scales will fall off the eyes of the blinded BCS and they have a playoff. OU is doing really well since they lost to Texas. OU, Texas, and Texas Tech should duke it out somehow.
Pete

Texarkana, AR

#37 Dec 1, 2008
Dan in Oklahoma wrote:
To add to my last comment, even though I am for OU these days, I still think that there should be a playoff to decide the outcome, so that OU, UT, and TT could all prove who was the best.
Here's the thing though. All three teams played already. All are 1-1 vs. eachother.
Another round of rematches? Sorry, never happen
Mizzou won their northern division, the three way tie was in the south.
Dan in Oklahoma

United States

#38 Dec 3, 2008
Of course, the rematches will not happen, but they should have a playoff, that includes all the best Big 12 teams, and not just the best team in the north against the best team in the south. And of course that won't happen this time around and probably not for some time to come. But maybe someday they will adopt a system that insures fairness for all and that is not the case today.
Pete

Texarkana, AR

#39 Dec 4, 2008
Dan in Oklahoma wrote:
Of course, the rematches will not happen, but they should have a playoff, that includes all the best Big 12 teams, and not just the best team in the north against the best team in the south. And of course that won't happen this time around and probably not for some time to come. But maybe someday they will adopt a system that insures fairness for all and that is not the case today.
I understand and agree.
The three way tie will likely never happen again.
But we do need a playoff.
It would have been nice to see Tech play another top 10 team and Texas play the SEC loser from this saturday's game

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