Bills WR Owens wants NFL to reinstate suspended QB Michael Vick

Terrell Owens wants Michael Vick to be reinstated immediately by the NFL , and said any extension of the quarterback's suspension would be similar to "kicking a dead horse." Speaking after the Buffalo Bills training camp practice Sunday morning, the star receiver referred to NFL commissioner Roger Goodell 's handling of Vick's status as "unfair." ...

[Mister Chris]

One ingrate supporting another ingrate. What a surprise.

[Ray]

Mister Chris wrote:

One ingrate supporting another ingrate. What a surprise.

sure is
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/no-nfl-for-m...

[Warren Sapp]

I can still fart louder than anybody in the NFL.

[MarkL5]

Mister Chris wrote:

One ingrate supporting another ingrate. What a surprise.

Actually Owens speaks for a lot of players that you don't consider ingrates. The reason that T.O. gets quoted is because he has the guts to comment on things that other players have no comment on, due to their not wishing to be controversial.

I don't really care for Owens, but I respect that he has the guts to give his opinion, and in this case, his opinion is warrented. Say what you will about T.O. He has never really been caught up in any scandal in which he could have been suspended for.

He may be a drama queen but he's never spent a day in jail, never had a DUI, never hit a woman, never bounced a check, never raped anyone, never been accused of raping anyone, etc..

So for a player who has never faced what Mike Vick has faced, to say that he deserves a second chance, Owens has the moral clout (if you care to accept that or not) to speak out on it.

[Saluki Rod]

MarkL5, amazingly I'm in agreement with several of the points you made.
The only place where we may not agree is that after all the times TO's been bounced outta town, he needs to learn to STFU and just play.

[DOWHATITDO2U2]

The article:

Terrell Owens wants Michael Vick to be reinstated immediately by the NFL, and said any extension of the quarterback's suspension would be similar to "kicking a dead horse."

Speaking after the Buffalo Bills training camp practice Sunday morning, the star receiver referred to NFL commissioner Roger Goodell's handling of Vick's status as "unfair." Owens also lobbied to have more of the league's high-profile players voicing their opinion in support of Vick and asked the NFL Players Association to become more involved.

"I think he's done the time for what he's done. I don't think it's really fair for him to be suspended four more games," Owens said, referring to reports that the NFL is considering to further punish Vick. "It's almost like kicking a dead horse in the ground.... The guy's already suffered so much. And to add a four-game suspension on a two-year prison sentence, that's ridiculous."

Vick met with Goodell this week but has yet to learn when he will be allowed to resume his NFL career. The former Falcons star was suspended indefinitely in August 2007 after he admitted bankrolling a dogfighting operation.

Vick has served a 23-month federal sentence and was freed from home confinement on July 20. He must still serve three years' probation.

Owens said Vick deserves a second chance.

"Why shouldn't he? I mean, there's a lot more guys around the league that have done far more worst things than that and gotten second chances," Owens said.

Owens said he would welcome Vick as a teammate.

"Michael Vick is a guy that really hasn't any character issues besides what he got a prison sentence for, so why not?" he said.

Bills safety George Wilson, the team's NFLPA representative, agreed with Owens.

"How do you bring a man out of suspension and then suspend him again? I mean, he's paid his debt," Wilson said. "I think you just continue to hold him down by bringing him back and then suspend him."

Wilson said he intends to discuss Vick's status with Owens and other teammates to determine whether to bring the Bills players' position to the union.

"We'll see where it goes, but I think Terrell is right in stating his position," Wilson said. "This is an instance where perhaps our players association needs to try to get involved."

The union's position has been that it will support Vick on a personal level until Goodell decides how to proceed. NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith met with Vick this past week, and intends to discuss the player's status with Goodell.

The Bills have declined comment on discussing Vick.

[DOWHATITDO2U2]

Huhm......Terrell might do more harm than good with this effort.

[badabing]

DOWHATITDO2U2 wrote:

The article:
Terrell Owens wants Michael Vick to be reinstated immediately by the NFL, and said any extension of the quarterback's suspension would be similar to "kicking a dead horse."
Speaking after the Buffalo Bills training camp practice Sunday morning, the star receiver referred to NFL commissioner Roger Goodell's handling of Vick's status as "unfair." Owens also lobbied to have more of the league's high-profile players voicing their opinion in support of Vick and asked the NFL Players Association to become more involved.
"I think he's done the time for what he's done. I don't think it's really fair for him to be suspended four more games," Owens said, referring to reports that the NFL is considering to further punish Vick. "It's almost like kicking a dead horse in the ground.... The guy's already suffered so much. And to add a four-game suspension on a two-year prison sentence, that's ridiculous."
Vick met with Goodell this week but has yet to learn when he will be allowed to resume his NFL career. The former Falcons star was suspended indefinitely in August 2007 after he admitted bankrolling a dogfighting operation.
Vick has served a 23-month federal sentence and was freed from home confinement on July 20. He must still serve three years' probation.
Owens said Vick deserves a second chance.
"Why shouldn't he? I mean, there's a lot more guys around the league that have done far more worst things than that and gotten second chances," Owens said.
Owens said he would welcome Vick as a teammate.
"Michael Vick is a guy that really hasn't any character issues besides what he got a prison sentence for, so why not?" he said.
Bills safety George Wilson, the team's NFLPA representative, agreed with Owens.
"How do you bring a man out of suspension and then suspend him again? I mean, he's paid his debt," Wilson said. "I think you just continue to hold him down by bringing him back and then suspend him."
Wilson said he intends to discuss Vick's status with Owens and other teammates to determine whether to bring the Bills players' position to the union.
"We'll see where it goes, but I think Terrell is right in stating his position," Wilson said. "This is an instance where perhaps our players association needs to try to get involved."
The union's position has been that it will support Vick on a personal level until Goodell decides how to proceed. NFLPA executive director DeMaurice Smith met with Vick this past week, and intends to discuss the player's status with Goodell.
The Bills have declined comment on discussing Vick.

Hey thanks Doobop, if you hadn't copied and pasted the entire damn article, I would have never figure out how to read it.

What a dillweed. LMAO

[Badaboom]

badabing wrote:

<quoted text>
Hey thanks Doobop, if you hadn't copied and pasted the entire damn article, I would have never figure out how to read it.
What a dillweed. LMAO

badaboom!

[MarkL5]

Saluki Rod wrote:

MarkL5, amazingly I'm in agreement with several of the points you made.
The only place where we may not agree is that after all the times TO's been bounced outta town, he needs to learn to STFU and just play.

I have no problem with that! Neither does the Dallas Cowboys, the Philadelphia Eagles or the San Francisco 49'ers.

[MarkL5]

Next Mayor of Jamestown wrote:

I can say if I did and what Vick did and was caught and sentenced as he was I would not have a job to go back to. Owens needs to focus on himself. If he needs to worry about someone, worry about Marshawn Lynch. He likes hitting people with cars and hanging out with guns and weed in the back seat. He needs a big brother or brotha. I wonder if Owens would take the same stance if it were a white qb? I doubt it.

If I as a player in the NFL stand in front of the media at a press conference, I am likely to asked to pontificate on any item affecting the NFL.

Terrell Owens did not call a press conference to talk about Mike Vick. Just as many players are being asked about Vick, so was Owens. As a player you either have the GUTS to speak your mind, or you keep your opinion to yourself.

As I said before, though I do not particularly care for Owens, I admire his not shirking a question that he is totally qualified to answer as a player, and as a member of his union. His stand on the subject is controversial because he realizes (and he stated this) that there are players in the NFL who have been punished LESS for more agreegeous conduct.

Owens has the right to bring his employer in to question about that, just as you do in your place of work. The beauty of living in this country is that when you have the stones to question authority, you have the right to do it. Unfortunately we still applaud people for shying away from opinions that rock the boat.

There should me more players speaking about this particular subject if they feel the same way. Say what you will about Owens, but when he's gone from the league, there will be one less voice willing to tell it like it is and the NFLPA will be weaker for it.

[Tammy]

Badaboom wrote:

<quoted text>badaboom!

TO is an azz
http://jasonjeffrey.files.wordpress.com/2007/...

[MarkL5]

Tammy wrote:

<quoted text>TO is an azz
http://jasonjeffrey.files.wordpress.com/2007/...

This is not about T.O.. Pay attention.

[Raven]

Next Mayor of Jamestown wrote:

I can say if I did and what Vick did and was caught and sentenced as he was I would not have a job to go back to. Owens needs to focus on himself. If he needs to worry about someone, worry about Marshawn Lynch. He likes hitting people with cars and hanging out with guns and weed in the back seat. He needs a big brother or brotha. I wonder if Owens would take the same stance if it were a white qb? I doubt it.

of course not
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/tell-hsus-no...

[Raven]

Tammy wrote:

<quoted text>TO is an azz
http://jasonjeffrey.files.wordpress.com/2007/...

it is about both
http://www.jollybengali.net/theconfluence/wp-...

[Jerry]

Raven wrote:

<quoted text>of course not
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/tell-hsus-no...

ditto

[big guy]

To all the people that say leave the brutha alone 'cause he gone done his time, I have one question for you. If the 'reformed' Michael Vick came to the door to take your little sister out on a date, would his having "gone dun da time" really matter to you. Where would your PC loyalties lie? For that matter, would TO be acceptable as an escort for I dunno, your mother?
As for the issue of whether TO was asked for his opinion, I doubt that he was asked his stance. TO probably saw a way to get back at 'da man and chose to shoot his mouth off. Historically, TO was just about TO.

[MarkL5]

big guy wrote:

To all the people that say leave the brutha alone 'cause he gone done his time, I have one question for you. If the 'reformed' Michael Vick came to the door to take your little sister out on a date, would his having "gone dun da time" really matter to you. Where would your PC loyalties lie? For that matter, would TO be acceptable as an escort for I dunno, your mother?
As for the issue of whether TO was asked for his opinion, I doubt that he was asked his stance. TO probably saw a way to get back at 'da man and chose to shoot his mouth off. Historically, TO was just about TO.

1. Mike Vick is married and not going to anybody's door to ask anybody's sister out, and in the long run, that's you sister's decision to make not yours.

2. Mike Vick did do his time, but he did not do time for a crime against humanity. There are thousands of Americans who have killed more animals than Mike Vick, and done no time at all for it. In fact, Vick's crime cost him 20 million dollars.

Have you ever lost 20 million bucks, and two years of freedom?

But back to the LEGAL killers of animals in the US... The hunters who kill only to mount Bambi's head over their fireplace for instance.

People like yourself who are outraged by this, must understand that "conditional animal" crime is such a load of hypocracy. If not for Vick's profile, this would have been swept under the rug a long time ago.

Two years of your life and TWENTY MILLION dollars.

As for T.O. I saw the press conference and he was asked directly about Vick's re-instatement. He answered in kind. In fact, his answer was as insightful as any statement made yet by a player, and of the dozens of players who may have been asked on the subject, the one most needed to be heard.

The NFL has re-instated Vick. Now, it is up to the teams to decide if a second chance will be offered. The league decided that Vick has lost enough, was sincere in his appology, they have set their guidelines in place and Vick has one chance to make lemonade from lemons.

[MarkL5]

big guy wrote:

To all the people that say leave the brutha alone 'cause he gone done his time,

I take it from this that you are NOT a "brutha."

Understand that white people are for a second chance for Vick as well.

[Eddie]

big guy wrote:

To all the people that say leave the brutha alone 'cause he gone done his time, I have one question for you. If the 'reformed' Michael Vick came to the door to take your little sister out on a date, would his having "gone dun da time" really matter to you. Where would your PC loyalties lie? For that matter, would TO be acceptable as an escort for I dunno, your mother?
As for the issue of whether TO was asked for his opinion, I doubt that he was asked his stance. TO probably saw a way to get back at 'da man and chose to shoot his mouth off. Historically, TO was just about TO.

Vick fans are already criminals anyway so they might sell their sister!