NFL: No flags on officials

There are 32 comments on the Baltimore Sun story from Dec 7, 2007, titled NFL: No flags on officials. In it, Baltimore Sun reports that:

Mike Pereira, NFL senior vice president of officiating, agreed with all the controversial calls made by the officials during the Ravens' 27-24 Monday night loss to New England.

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Cornell

Brooklyn, MD

#22 Dec 7, 2007
Jiminy Cricket wrote:
I love this. If the timeout WAS NOT granted, and the stop WAS NOT made, You'd be whining about that. You guys are a bunch of big whiny crybabies...BABIES BABIES BABIES....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
With a name like Jiminey Cricket. I wonder what Pedopholes sofa your sitting on, while your watching the game!! Should read more like Jimmy my a**. Talking baby give us a break!! Your analysis is Cartoon like at best!! Pick up the rulebook and and leave the Comics alone? Jiminey Cricket! Please!
GHT

Portland, OR

#23 Dec 7, 2007
jeremiah wrote:
I admit the calls made at the end of the game were not all bogus. But come on. How many free chances did they get in a row?
Bart Scott explained there was tension growing throughout the game because of non calls of offensive pass interference the Pats always run in the form of pick plays and push offs with the helmet and chest, instead of the more obvious extended arm. They pointed it out before the game to the refs and during the game they felt dismissed when attempting to point it out. The play that Brady made on 4th down with his feet would have been converted anyway by a really suspect call on Rolle "contacting" Moss down field, when Moss put his helmet in his chest and dove on him like an open field tackle. Rolle grabbed on for safety while on his way to the ground. If Brady had been stopped a yard short, there really would be a S storm of controversy. Let it happen to the Steelers this week and watch how different the media runs with it.
I can see calling the illegal contact on Winborne that saved the game for them, but they did not even get that call accurate. He did not hold him, grab him or re-route the guy, so they could at least get the accurate terminology on the ticky tack call.
The calls that really bothered me were the non calls for offensive interference when Moss stiff armed C-Mack right before he dropped another TD.
The obvious block in the back on Bart that sprung Maroney to set up the go ahead drive.
The blatant holding that happened on Barnes on almost every pass rush including the 4th quarter sack.
The multiple pimp slaps upside Boller's fragile dome, in the pocket, including the TD to Mason and big play to Darling.
Yeah they let Mason get away with offensive interference on the last play of the game as a make up call, but by then it was already 13-4 in penalties and NE had one or two false starts.
Maybe the Ravens earned the rep of the modern day Raiders for the melt down in the Malice in the Heart fiasco orchestrated by Mike Carey, the only official with x-ray vision but can't understand the rules of football. Perhaps the fact that the officiating and complaining is the lead story about one of the best played football games I ever saw, will force the refs to give us a more fair shake next time around.
We constantly make penalties that hurt our chances game after game. Uncontested penalties. Do you honestly think that after 11 games the lightbulb was going to go off upstairs and these dumbass athletes were not going to create fouls?? We are what we are. Undisciplined. Had we not called a time out we'd have one that game. Had KB not thrown that Vinny Testaverde like INT, we'd have won that game. Had we gained A first down or 2 on our last drive we'd have won the game. We gave it away our way. The only difference is in the fact we actually executed plays on Monday night, something that was lacking all year. We had drive, ambition. If it looks like a dog and smells like a dog.....it's a dog. We win that game against any other team in most cases. Against the Pats, you can't beat yourself. We beat ourseleves and almost won. That's how good this team is. It just doesn't show in the standings.
gordon

Fredericksburg, VA

#24 Dec 7, 2007
every team that plays NE from here on out can expect the same treatment from the officials and the NFL that the Ravens get. why? because it's in the league's vested interests to maximize their profits by having the prospects of an undefeated team for the first time since 1972 go down to the wire in the last game of the regular season. if the Pats get to the 16th game unbeaten, it will be the most watched game in history. that will equate to ratings previously unattained and even greater revenues. the NFL is first and foremost a business and will always do what's best for the bottom line, especially on an opportunity that comes along only once in a generation. it's econ 101. C-Mac was right. "they wanted them [NE] to win, and they won."
jeremiah

Unionville, MD

#25 Dec 7, 2007
GHT wrote:
<quoted text>We constantly make penalties that hurt our chances game after game. Uncontested penalties. Do you honestly think that after 11 games the lightbulb was going to go off upstairs and these dumbass athletes were not going to create fouls?? We are what we are. Undisciplined. Had we not called a time out we'd have one that game. Had KB not thrown that Vinny Testaverde like INT, we'd have won that game. Had we gained A first down or 2 on our last drive we'd have won the game. We gave it away our way. The only difference is in the fact we actually executed plays on Monday night, something that was lacking all year. We had drive, ambition. If it looks like a dog and smells like a dog.....it's a dog. We win that game against any other team in most cases. Against the Pats, you can't beat yourself. We beat ourseleves and almost won. That's how good this team is. It just doesn't show in the standings.
Maybe your right. They have to look in the mirror for at least 9 of those calls against them.
KB did pull a classic Vinny pick. I used to swear he had money on the other team the way he would all of a sudden start to suck int the 4th quarter of a game we had won.
I stll say the 4 or 5 obvious calls the pats got away with, made the close calls at the end that much tougher to swallow.
Ravens Fan

AOL

#26 Dec 7, 2007
Did anyone think the league was going to side with the players? Of course NOT! The league needs to have an outside source decide these types of issues, like an arbritrator or an independent source, not someone from the league. You can't have the fox guarding the hen house.
Please Stop Whining

Avondale, AZ

#28 Dec 7, 2007
Stop blaming the refs for not saving the Ravens from themselves. Billick has given his coordinators the authority to call timeouts if they don't have the correct personnel in. It's accepted that the refs will provide timeouts called by assistants "when the snap is imminent" because they can't turnaround and look who's calling the timeout and miss seeing the snap. The refs didn't make them ask for the timeout. BTW, I think it was a good decision by Ryan to call the timeout since, as he said, they had the speed team in from the previous play and only one lineman on the field for the short yardage play. Too bad for the Ravens it didn't end up working out for them. Worked out for the Patriots though! 12-0 baby!
TTN

Chicago, IL

#29 Dec 7, 2007
Blatant fouls were not called during the entire game. Both teams were frustrated with the officiating (in case you missed Brady yelling at the official in the second quarter and of course Scott's encounter). Given that this was a tight game, the refs probably became more strict in their calls in the 4th quarter. While Gaffney's touchdown could have been incomplete due to the fact that he didn't have complete control of the ball, his hands always stayed on the ball. There wasn't enough evidence to overturn it. Believe me, I've watched the replays. Otherwise, I don't see any bogus calls. Maybe calls that weren't made (deliberate holding on both teams). Should the refs memorize every head coach's face to make sure timeouts are called correctly? No way, the coaching staff needs to get their act together. In the end, the Ravens only have to themselves to blame, people make mistakes deal with it. They didn't behave as they should and they got fined. Patriot's Harrison also was fined. All these conspiracy theories about the NFL just make me think that people enjoy creating more drama. Move on. Two tough games coming up Baltimore vs. Indy and Pats vs Steelers. Good luck to both!
Tom Brady

Middleboro, MA

#30 Dec 7, 2007
All the ruckus about the time out is a joke. I heard the whistle and stopped my forward progress. Also...if the rules are so well known and only the head coach can call timeout...why is your assistant coach calling for a timeout unless he knew that the refs give the benefit of the doubt anyone on the coaching staff calling timeout at that time. Or..if you are correct and the assistant coach cannot call a timeout he would be assessed a penalty for trying to call a timeout when he can't call one...FIRST DOWN in any case. Your team sucks this year...they lost...get over it...what a bunch of whiners...haven't seen losers like this since we beat the Bolts in last years playoffs. WAH WAH WAH
town criers

Manchester, NH

#31 Dec 7, 2007
after reading this board full of whinning cry babies, the fans are just as bad as the players.....
in that case there will never be any hope for your sorry team....
too bad to see such a waste of NFL talent....
& all the whinning you do at the refs "Why follow football at all if everything is fixed guys?" DUMB
Beth

AOL

#32 Dec 8, 2007
The NFL has got to stand by their game time decisions, or they are admitting to the fact that they screwed up... and the game outcome would have been different... They just can't do that.

The game was given away...With what was supposed to be a blow out that wasn't...and with the emotion of the Ravens at it's height, and the calls that were made in the 4th quarter (that had been allowed throughout the rest of the game), there's no question as to why the few defensive players on the field who lost their cool did so.

In my eyes the game was a win for us.... the Patriots were "supposed to win"... so they did.
Go STEELERS

AOL

#33 Dec 8, 2007
How about the blow to the head of Boller by Thomas on the 53 yard pass in the first quarter. It too happened right in front of the ref and was not called. On the replay you can clearly see him put his hand on it and start to pull it out. However, he looks at the play develop and does not throw it. Should have been another 15 yards. Seems that they decided not to throw that one when he clearly noticed the foul. The VP needs to reveiw that one and give a report. Go STEELERS!!
footballfan

Tokyo, Japan

#34 Dec 9, 2007
stop all the whining ... I'm a die-hard Ravens fan but lets be honest with ourselves. We are going thru a crappy season so it's not the refs fault for the 7 game losing streak. If we played the season like we played the Pats, we might of had another shot at them in the playoffs. This year we are not good. Next year baby!

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