Ravens-Steelers game to feature bad blood, playoff implications

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When the Ravens collide with the Pittsburgh Steelers on Sunday, could this rank as one of the most anticipated regular-season home games in the team's 13-year history? Whether the motivation is a bounty or the ...
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Joe Mess East BMore

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It;s time to pay the piper!!
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Dec 8, 2008
 
For anyone who is interested, Hensley is wrong regarding the tiebreaker. If two teams are tied, and they are in the same division as the Steelers and Ravens are, then the following applies:

Two Clubs

1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10.Best net points in all games.
11.Best net touchdowns in all games.
12.Coin toss

As you can see, conference record comes AFTER common opponents. Regarding common opponents, if the Ravens win out (like they would have to do if they wanted to win the division anyway) then the Steelers would only have to lose one of their last two games. If they lose to the Titans (like we did), or the Browns, and we beat Jacksonville and the Cowboys, we will have one more win in the common opponents since we will have matched the Steelers for the rest of the games but we will have gone 3-1 against the NFC East whereas the Steelers will have only gone 2-2.

Just wanted to let people know that Hensley's scenario is not correct.

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Joe Mess East BMore wrote:
It;s time to pay the piper!!
I met the piper once, then I bitch slapped him!

Ratbirds are done!
VJO

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Dec 8, 2008
 
The 2000 Broncos playoff game deserves to be in the Top 5!
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Dec 8, 2008
 
Terpsfan wrote:
For anyone who is interested, Hensley is wrong regarding the tiebreaker. If two teams are tied, and they are in the same division as the Steelers and Ravens are, then the following applies:
Two Clubs
1. Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
2. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
3. Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
4. Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.
5. Strength of victory.
6. Strength of schedule.
7. Best combined ranking among conference teams in points scored and points allowed.
8. Best combined ranking among all teams in points scored and points allowed.
9. Best net points in common games.
10.Best net points in all games.
11.Best net touchdowns in all games.
12.Coin toss
As you can see, conference record comes AFTER common opponents. Regarding common opponents, if the Ravens win out (like they would have to do if they wanted to win the division anyway) then the Steelers would only have to lose one of their last two games. If they lose to the Titans (like we did), or the Browns, and we beat Jacksonville and the Cowboys, we will have one more win in the common opponents since we will have matched the Steelers for the rest of the games but we will have gone 3-1 against the NFC East whereas the Steelers will have only gone 2-2.
Just wanted to let people know that Hensley's scenario is not correct.
After this weekend, both teams will be 10-4. If the Ravens win out and if the Steelers lose 1 game, The Ravens win outright and your tiebreaker scenario doesn't matter. Bottom line: Ravens need to win out and pray the Titans don't lay down. The Browns are taking practice swings at the first tee at Doral.
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Dec 8, 2008
 
Is the Tie-breaker you have explained accurate? The tiebreaking procedures as listed by the NFL.com state the following tiebreakers within a division:
Head-to-head (best won-lost-tied percentage in games between the clubs).
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the division.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in common games.
Best won-lost-tied percentage in games played within the conference.

Wouldnt we own the tiebreaker in common games (Common games are even except for Philly, we won, Pitt lost)?
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Dec 8, 2008
 
Here's where that ridiculus roughing the passer penalty against Suggs in the Tenn. game may really come back to bite us. If we beat The Titans in that game, we control our destiny for the division. We'd also be looking at the possibility of home-field advantage throughout the playoffs (if Tennessee would lose to the Colts or Steelers).

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VJO wrote:
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After this weekend, both teams will be 10-4. If the Ravens win out and if the Steelers lose 1 game, The Ravens win outright and your tiebreaker scenario doesn't matter. Bottom line: Ravens need to win out and pray the Titans don't lay down. The Browns are taking practice swings at the first tee at Doral.
Let me see if i got this right. The ratbirds season boils down to a whole bunch of "ifs".

Goodluck with that.

Here we go Steelers, here we go!
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Let me see if i got this right. The ratbirds season boils down to a whole bunch of "ifs".
Goodluck with that.
Here we go Steelers, here we go!
Ratbirds?!?! WTF are you talking about? Ratbirds are pidgeons, not ravens. At least our team isn't named after a dying industry.
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Steelers? More like the Rust-Belters
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Dec 8, 2008
 
Im sure after all your inbreed cousin/brothers and sisters in warren finish with all your inbreed cousin/brothers and sisters in whatever the hell lyons is..... rat birds are exactly what they'l look like.....wipe the peanut butter and jelly off your hand before you touch the computer forrest.
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Dec 9, 2008
 
Actually, because it would go to the 4th tiebreaker, which is conference record, Hensley is correct in the article.
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Dec 9, 2008
 
After sunday it won't matter, the ravens will be two games behind with two games left, and the steelers will not lose to the browns so baltimore better make other plans for the playoffs.
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After sunday it won't matter, the ravens will be two games behind with two games left, and the steelers will not lose to the browns so baltimore better make other plans for the playoffs.
Right! You Pissburg fans think they are invinceable, don't forget we gave you that game early in the season. And oh yeah only one team has improved and it's NOT the Pissburgh Squealers. Dallas gave that game away and they stopped running the ball.
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I met the piper once, then I **** slapped him!
Ratbirds are done!
This piper would whip your a*s!

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VJO wrote:
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After this weekend, both teams will be 10-4. If the Ravens win out and if the Steelers lose 1 game, The Ravens win outright and your tiebreaker scenario doesn't matter. Bottom line: Ravens need to win out and pray the Titans don't lay down. The Browns are taking practice swings at the first tee at Doral.
I don't think the ravens will beat the cowboys in dallas. Sorry to bust up your dreams.

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Ravens1-SteelerHater wrote:
<quoted text>Right! You Pissburg fans think they are invinceable, don't forget we gave you that game early in the season. And oh yeah only one team has improved and it's NOT the Pissburgh Squealers. Dallas gave that game away and they stopped running the ball.
hey thanks for the gift knumbnutts. As i recall the ravens D choked in overtime. THat old fool ray lewis ran out of steam and moore ran right past him to set up the game winning FG.

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Joe Mess East BMore wrote:
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JoeMessesHisPants is starting to chirp like a little bird. how cute. you couldn't punch your way out of a wet paper bag. ding dong.
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Dec 9, 2008
 
The steelers may win, but one thing is for certain - Ben Roethlisberger is going to spend more time on his back than Terry Schiavo.(Too soon?)
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Bob Roberts wrote:
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I don't think the ravens will beat the cowboys in dallas. Sorry to bust up your dreams.
Could happen, and may or may not require several "ifs". If we can beat your outstanding team, and if Dallas loses to the NYG, I think we kill them because we'll be fired up, and they will have likely quit.

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