Round 1 for rookie Zbikowski

Round 1 for rookie Zbikowski

There are 15 comments on the Baltimore Sun story from Jun 16, 2008, titled Round 1 for rookie Zbikowski. In it, Baltimore Sun reports that:

As an amateur boxer, safety Tom Zbikowski had more than 70 fights, but none like the one he is about to enter when the Ravens open training camp July 21.

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Raven In Ohio

United States

#1 Jun 16, 2008
Preston once again shows how ignorant he is on how NFL teams are built. The idea that a sixth round pick is a lock at the expense of a third round pick shows his stupidity. Everyone still hates you Mikie.
wow

Colfax, NC

#2 Jun 16, 2008
Raven In Ohio wrote:
Preston once again shows how ignorant he is on how NFL teams are built. The idea that a sixth round pick is a lock at the expense of a third round pick shows his stupidity. Everyone still hates you Mikie.
six round picks have beaten out third round picks for the same position many times before. Free agent rookies have beaten out higher draft picks too. It's about who is the better player come training camp, the pay of the third and six rounders is about the same so they don't worry about any kind of investment in where the guy was picked
Jacob

East Hampton, NY

#3 Jun 16, 2008
I don't hate Mike.

Zbikowski is an absolute lock to make the team, though. This is the Ravens, not the Raiders, who have cut a third rounder before. The Ravens don't give up on draft picks that quickly, especially one as high as a third rounder.
Greg

United States

#4 Jun 16, 2008
Typical Preston making an absurd statement (Zbikowski wouldn't make the team if the decision was to be made now) just for the sake of being provocative. The fact is he can state it with impunity since the decision won't be made until the end of preseason.

You don't need to know any more about Zbikowski than he was a third round pick to conclude that a spot on the roster is his to lose. Ozzie doesn't treat his third round picks so casually.
Jacob

East Hampton, NY

#5 Jun 16, 2008
wow wrote:
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six round picks have beaten out third round picks for the same position many times before. Free agent rookies have beaten out higher draft picks too. It's about who is the better player come training camp, the pay of the third and six rounders is about the same so they don't worry about any kind of investment in where the guy was picked
To my knowledge, the Ravens haven't cut anybody as high as a third round pick. True, in the long run, the other rookie, who's a sixth round pick, may beat out Zbikowski, but it won't get him cut this year.

Look how long the Ravens have given David Pittman, another third round choice from three years ago. He was inactive his entire rookie season, and his only contribution last year was getting burned. If Ozzie hasn't cut that waste of a roster spot, I'm positive Zbikowski can will survive at least the next two years.
Jon

Tempe, AZ

#6 Jun 16, 2008
The demise of NFL Europa has changed the dynamic here. This guy could well be on the bubble if the other two new safeties outperform him.
Greg

United States

#7 Jun 16, 2008
The fact is that the Ravens have NEVER had a draft pick among the first 4 rounds fail to make the roster (though some such as Dan Cody took a while longer due to injury or being placed on the practice squad). This makes Preston's conjecture all the more ridiculous.
Cracker

Rosedale, MD

#8 Jun 16, 2008
Raven In Ohio wrote:
Preston once again shows how ignorant he is on how NFL teams are built. The idea that a sixth round pick is a lock at the expense of a third round pick shows his stupidity. Everyone still hates you Mikie.
So, you speak for everyone?
I happen to like Mike too.
Whats your problem anyway?
Tiger86

Grand Rapids, MI

#9 Jun 16, 2008
Actually, the Rvens need him to make the team. They need the blue-collar toughness, they need a fighter, and they need sure-handed depth at returner. If he can decently cover a 3rd or 4th receiver, can handle his assignments within the scheme, and does whatever is asked whenever asked, it's his spot to lose.
Ravens_Flock

United States

#10 Jun 16, 2008
Man....I really hate how uninformed/ misinformed so many "fans" are.

First off, David Pittman has stuck around, because he has a huge upside. Second, it takes some players longer than others to adjust to the size and speed of the NFL, that doesn't mean they "suck". Fact is, in 2006, McAlister and Rolle were healthy all season, and Corey Ivy and Ronnie Prude really stepped up that year. Sadly, they basically just didn't have a need to activate another CB. Period.

Lastly, his biggest contribution to the team was not "getting burned". They barely played him in 2007, and when they did, it was at nickel or dime, where it is often hard to stand out, especially as a rookie. For some insane reason, Rex kept insisting on playing Ivy at CB, even though he is too small and too slow, and it showed. The ONLY game they actually played Pittman at corner, like they should have, was against the Steelers, and he had a great game, and garnered 2 INTs in a single game. That is a taste of his potential at CB. I still think he could wind up developing into McAlister's replacement, and if nothing else, I would expect him to make the squad this year, over the likes of Derick Martin, or Lenny Walls. I think Pittman, and possibly Prude, will fill in the last spots, after McAlister, Role, Washington, Walker, and Ivy.

As for the safety spot, I don't even know why Preston bothered saying "if he can't win a starting spot, he will have to stand out on special teams". Win a STARTING spot? Over who? Ed Reed and Dawan Landry, two of the best safeties in the league? Right. No, Tom will not win a starting spot, now or anytime within the next several years. However, I do think it is likely that both he and Nakamura will make the 2008 squad, and hopefully they both contribute on D as well as special teams.
tcraven

United States

#11 Jun 16, 2008
I think Zbikowski is too high of a pick. I think the ravens could get him in the 6th round. But i agree this guy Nakamura is a steal because i saw this guy on film and he looks like an Ed Reed or Bob Sanders with his speed and abilty to KNOCK SOMEBODY OUT!!!!!!! I also think Nakamura would beet out Zibikowski for the job if the ravens had to pick between them. I do like Zibikowski ability to be a deminitonal player to return kicks to help figurs i like they speed.
C-Mart

Pinellas Park, FL

#12 Jun 16, 2008
Loser From "Nottingham, MD.??" wrote: So you speak for everyone?
I happen to like Mike.
Whats your problem anyway?
What a crybaby, are you serious. Preston only has one mission in his journalistic career and that is to stir up the pot. I must be a glutton for punishment to still be reading this jibberish Preston calls journalism. This is just like his arguement about "The Greatest Raven Of All Time, Sorry Ray But Its J.O. Hands Down" a couple days back, an opinion that this moron tries to turn into fact with no basis or real foundation. Yet there is always some fag like you out there "Prince Nottingham" that comes to Mikie's aid when the true Raven fans are tearin the fur of his ass on here. Congrats for being that Guy.......... D-Bag.

“GO RAVENS!”

Since: Nov 07

Los Angeles, CA

#13 Jun 17, 2008
They keep Dan Cody around, Im sure Tom will make the team because of special teams. I'm hoping Dan stays Heathy this year!

“Get 'em Lou!!”

Since: Dec 06

Pasadena

#14 Jun 20, 2008
Tiger86 wrote:
Actually, the Rvens need him to make the team. They need the blue-collar toughness, they need a fighter, and they need sure-handed depth at returner. If he can decently cover a 3rd or 4th receiver, can handle his assignments within the scheme, and does whatever is asked whenever asked, it's his spot to lose.
That's where he may have trouble though.
Zibby's been horrible in pass protection the past two years.

“Get 'em Lou!!”

Since: Dec 06

Pasadena

#15 Jun 20, 2008
LARavensFan52 wrote:
They keep Dan Cody around, Im sure Tom will make the team because of special teams. I'm hoping Dan stays Heathy this year!
So how did you become a Raven's fan in LA?

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