Illini's bowl hopes fade with loss to...

Illini's bowl hopes fade with loss to Western Michigan

There are 52 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Nov 8, 2008, titled Illini's bowl hopes fade with loss to Western Michigan. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

Illinois' bowl hopes took a bad hit Saturday, courtesy of Western Michigan. Bill Cubit's team took control early and held on for a 23-17 victory at Ford Field before 12,865 fans.

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good jim

Naperville, IL

#21 Nov 8, 2008
As a Wisconsin fan, it doesn't bother me that Illinois is struggling after hearing all of the chirping from their fans last year during their Rose Bowl run. From that game into this season, their play has brought Illini nation back to reality. Ron Zook while making strides and getting better talent, is still Ron Zook and I hope he is at Champaign for a long time because that will ensure that the team struggles in the future. The fact that no one was at the game shouldn't make any difference, they were just beaten by a better team and probably will not get back to a bowl since they have OSU and NU left. Too bad, just like the Cubs, wait til next year.
Eddie

Minneapolis, MN

#22 Nov 8, 2008
Next year skip Western Michigan and schedule the Detroit Lions. There's a guaranteed victory!
gainesville

Ocala, FL

#23 Nov 8, 2008
kevin wrote:
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Juice is not overrated...he leads the big 10 in passing yards and total offense. he needs a running game to help him out. everone knows illinois only has three plays the option, the run and the play action pass. how can you blame a who has the best stats in the big 10. what about the offensive line. he needs more time. the announcers knows that its not all his fault.no qb can suceeed without a running game or offensive line and a coaching staff with only three plays.Why do he have to throw 45 passes a game? answer- no running game .
Juice stats are deceiving going without a huddle and running more plays than most teams and Benn and other good receivers. Put McGee at Qb and I bet he would have better stats. He won't throw high, to hard or read defenses as bad as Williams. Williams has missed several easy completions becase he over throws the ball. He gets a lot of yards on long passes that are caught by very good receivers.
kevin

Tinley Park, IL

#24 Nov 8, 2008
gainesville wrote:
<quoted text>Juice stats are deceiving going without a huddle and running more plays than most teams and Benn and other good receivers. Put McGee at Qb and I bet he would have better stats. He won't throw high, to hard or read defenses as bad as Williams. Williams has missed several easy completions becase he over throws the ball. He gets a lot of yards on long passes that are caught by very good receivers.
You said benn and other good receivers? please watch that wisconsin and minnesota game those receivers dropped how many passes? benn had three easy wide open drops against wisconsin. the announcers kept saying illinois receivers is quitting on plays. dont give me wrong they is talented but they dont run their routes all the way through.juice is to blame for some of it. but not all. and as for mcgee he threw a interception last year on te six yard line against missouri that would have won the game and did the same thing against iowa. mcgee cant run the option either how many fumbles on the exchanges? illinois needs to fix its offensive line and play calling, its not all williams fault. those plays are predictable. you need more then three plays to win.
JohnQPublic

Owensboro, KY

#25 Nov 9, 2008
gainesville wrote:
When are the fire Ron Zook stickers coming out. They were a hot item in Gainesville. Schools in the SEC had please keep Ron stickers on their cars.
Ron Zook, next Tennessee Vols head coach. You read it first here. LOL.. I'm an NIU grad and I would be peeved if Coach Kill left DeKalb for Champaign but i guess that's always the risk in the college coaching ranks. Oh, and when is Illinois gonna change its license plates from Land of Lincoln, to Land of Obama?
Sue

Frankfort, IL

#26 Nov 9, 2008
JohnQPublic wrote:
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Ron Zook, next Tennessee Vols head coach. You read it first here.****.. I'm an NIU grad and I would be peeved if Coach Kill left DeKalb for Champaign but i guess that's always the risk in the college coaching ranks. Oh, and when is Illinois gonna change its license plates from Land of Lincoln, to Land of Obama?
Illinois will be RZ's last D-I head coaching job.
Next Year

Springfield, IL

#27 Nov 9, 2008
When in the hell is Illinois going to recruit a quality QUARTERBACK???

Sure, this guy passed for 400+ yards a couple of times. But week in and week out we see a guy who simply doesn't have the throwing mechanics of real quarterbacks. I can get rid of the ball quicker than that guy.

Also, maybe Illinois should consider not recruiting drunks and the assorted other malcontents. Maybe they should find a leader. Are we sure Kurt Kitner's eligibility has run out?

Coaches? PLEASE!!!

And, Kevin ol' boy, if the Illinois passing game is so fearful, why is there no running game?
tank

Columbus, OH

#28 Nov 9, 2008
Illinois gave OSU classic bulletinboard material, the dancing Illini on the OSU "O". Nuff said.
Niles

Dayton, OH

#29 Nov 9, 2008
tank wrote:
Illinois gave OSU classic bulletinboard material, the dancing Illini on the OSU "O". Nuff said.
If they need bulletin board material to beat the Illini, no wonder USC demolished them.
Knute Rockne

Hollywood, FL

#30 Nov 9, 2008
Niles wrote:
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If they need bulletin board material to beat the Illini, no wonder USC demolished them.
So true.

The media eats it up because its easy to write about and talk about, so the fans pick up on it.

Only someone who never played thinks that stuff matters. Once the ball gets kicked off and you smacked in the mouth, is anyone on the field (or on the sideline, even) thinking about it? Puhleeze.
Sue

Frankfort, IL

#31 Nov 9, 2008
Niles wrote:
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If they need bulletin board material to beat the Illini, no wonder USC demolished them.
Exactly.
Eddie McGee fan

Camp Hill, PA

#32 Nov 9, 2008
It's not difficult to defend against Illinois - Juice can't hit the intermediate pass, our running game no longer has a game breaker like Mendenhall, and Juice isn't fast enough to break long runs when he runs the option.

As a result, teams are blitzing more often.

Locks - don't throw the linemen under the bus. It's hard to block when other teams don't respect the ability of your QB to read defenses and make accurate throws. Juice is a thrower, not a QB! Time for Eddie McGee to get a chance at QB. He is faster than Juice, and he has never had a real chance to show what he can do.
Disgusted

Manteno, IL

#33 Nov 9, 2008
chieflover wrote:
The fault is with Illini fans......we read recruiting success with on field success.....shame on us.
I've been saying that for years. Many of the top black athletes in the Midwest have been quoted as saying that Champaign is not the place for African-Americans. Now before you attack anyone, remember I'm not the one saying it. You also don't need to point out to me the success in basketball recruiting, you need more than a few top athletes to field football teams. It is not my perception that Champaign is unfriendly for African-Americans, it is their's. I'm just telling you what I have read. Yes, I know Illinois has had a little success in football, as compared to Minnesota or Indiana. But if you are looking for constant success, such as Michigan, Ohio State, or Penn State, I'm telling you that recruiting is a problem.
GA Illini Alum

Milan, MI

#34 Nov 9, 2008
Disgusted... I would love to know more about that perception. What makes CU unfriendly for black kids? Its not urban, but neither is State college or Ann Arbor. What would be missing there?
You can't convince me there's no place to go clubbing or socializing. Didn't stop some of the Basketball players.
Disgusted

Manteno, IL

#35 Nov 9, 2008
GA Illini Alum wrote:
Disgusted... I would love to know more about that perception. What makes CU unfriendly for black kids? Its not urban, but neither is State college or Ann Arbor. What would be missing there?
You can't convince me there's no place to go clubbing or socializing. Didn't stop some of the Basketball players.
Please take "Reading for Dummies". I said at least twice it was not my perception. I read it from athletes that chose to go elsewhere and have read interviews with Chicago high school players. I think Champaign is just fine.
Hawkeye Fan

Minneapolis, MN

#36 Nov 10, 2008
The Big 10 Fake wrote:
The Big 10 is just plain and simple overrated. College football is more equal all gthe time and when youn look at the money spent by the BCS schools to achive only slightly better results than the so called "mid majors" its easy to see that the NCAA is protecting the BCS and allowing them to waste money faster than the US Goverment. Zook makes more in 1 year than the entire Western Michigan coaching staff makes in 2 years and they can't beat them. What a joke!!!
Get over yourself. Florida got beat by Ole Miss and everyone considers them a dynamite team, BCS-worthy. USC got beat by Oregon State (a team which Penn State handled quite easily) and it's the same situation - everyone sees them as kings of football.

Sure, Illinois needs work. They had a lot of people graduate from last year's team - especially receivers. Plus, Coach Zook has always been better at recruiting than on-field coaching. That doesn't mean they're down-and-out for good, or that the Big 10 is dead.

People think that because OSU got creamed by USC, that was proof positive that that the Big 10 can't compete anymore. They forget that USC couldn't keep up with Oregon State, either!

Sue

Frankfort, IL

#37 Nov 10, 2008
Disgusted wrote:
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Please take "Reading for Dummies". I said at least twice it was not my perception. I read it from athletes that chose to go elsewhere and have read interviews with Chicago high school players. I think Champaign is just fine.
You can't say something like that and not be asked where you read it. And then you respond with "take reading for dummies?" So please, no more, " I heard somewhere", or "I once read" stuff like that.
Tom

United States

#38 Nov 10, 2008
This one hurts. Juice is starting to play like Grossman.
Disgusted

Manteno, IL

#39 Nov 10, 2008
Sue wrote:
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You can't say something like that and not be asked where you read it. And then you respond with "take reading for dummies?" So please, no more, " I heard somewhere", or "I once read" stuff like that.
You need the same course. He assumed it was my stance on Champaign, which I denied. But to satisfy you, there is the Tribune, Sports Illustrated, online interviews with athletes that have chosen other schools.
Say what

Harrisburg, PA

#40 Nov 10, 2008
Disgusted wrote:
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But to satisfy you, there is the Tribune, Sports Illustrated, online interviews with athletes that have chosen other schools.
Which high-profile black athletes have spurned the U of I because of Champaign - Urbana?
Yes, I recall the Tribune ran an article/blog about women's basketball players not coming to Champaign, but I think that situation had more to do with the personality of the ex-coach than anything else.
To this day, I can't think of any high-profile football or men's basketball player that has decided not to attend Illinois because of the town.

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