Big Ten power rankings

Big Ten power rankings

There are 19 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Aug 29, 2007, titled Big Ten power rankings. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

Coach: Lloyd Carr . How good can they be? At Michigan, the answer to that question is another question: Can it beat Ohio State? The Wolverines have lost three straight and five of the past six.

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NDame

Palo Alto, CA

#1 Aug 29, 2007
the iu sports beat writer (and i use the term loosely) is a hoot. how in the world can anyone pick IU to go to a bowl game? they were wretched last year, and this year they have an even worse recruiting class coming in, and a new coach who couldn't even keep the pitiful ball state job. iu will be lucky to win three games against their high school quality opponents.
ND Blows

Sugar Land, TX

#2 Aug 29, 2007
NDame wrote:
the iu sports beat writer (and i use the term loosely) is a hoot. how in the world can anyone pick IU to go to a bowl game? they were wretched last year, and this year they have an even worse recruiting class coming in, and a new coach who couldn't even keep the pitiful ball state job. iu will be lucky to win three games against their high school quality opponents.
Don't be bitter because your beloved Irish won't break .500 this year.

IU will be begin the season 5-1, that's why they'll go to a bowl! Look at the schedule moron and tell me how a more mature football team, with offensive talent at every skilled position, not to mention an emotional purupose to play for doesn't win 7 games. Please come up with a generic, pathetic excuse why IU will not go to a bowl game.

Is this what Notre Dame fans have resorted to? Complaining about Indiana to make themselves feel better about their own program's demise over the past decade. Sad. Very sad. Say hi to Jaba for me.
Tim

Nashville, TN

#3 Aug 29, 2007
NDame wrote:
the iu sports beat writer (and i use the term loosely) is a hoot. how in the world can anyone pick IU to go to a bowl game? they were wretched last year, and this year they have an even worse recruiting class coming in, and a new coach who couldn't even keep the pitiful ball state job. iu will be lucky to win three games against their high school quality opponents.
If I was you I would be more concerned about how ND is going to make a bowl game, no BCS this year!
Myles Brand

Indianapolis, IN

#4 Aug 29, 2007
Juice to Benn > Lewis to Hardy.
MrIUBasketball

AOL

#5 Aug 29, 2007
First of all, if IU played ND's schedule, we would be hard pressed to win a single game. At this time and for the foreseeable future, ND is by far the superior football team and overall athletic program. Nothing like Hutchens demonstrating his homerism, Terry being such a homer is what keeps IU fans from receiving good overall coverage of the IU sports programs. Hutchens is more concerned about licking the IU coaches shoes than giving us solid reporting of IU events. Don't forget, Lynch failed terribly last year and is likely do perform just as miserably this year. He is the weakest coach in the B10.
ND Blows

Sugar Land, TX

#6 Aug 29, 2007
MrIUBasketball wrote:
First of all, if IU played ND's schedule, we would be hard pressed to win a single game. At this time and for the foreseeable future, ND is by far the superior football team and overall athletic program. Nothing like Hutchens demonstrating his homerism, Terry being such a homer is what keeps IU fans from receiving good overall coverage of the IU sports programs. Hutchens is more concerned about licking the IU coaches shoes than giving us solid reporting of IU events. Don't forget, Lynch failed terribly last year and is likely do perform just as miserably this year. He is the weakest coach in the B10.
Navy, Airforce, Stanford, Duke? Don't preach about schedule. ND always has three or four cupcakes a year which somehow turn into close games. Heck, even throw a mediocre Michigan St. team in there, who seems to always kick the tail out of ND regardless of how they play. I love how everyone crucifies Lynch before he coaches a single game. His previous record is reflective of a crappy Ball State program and a Butler program which doesn't offer scholarships. He has no charisma or personality, but look at Lloyd Carr, or even Rosie O'Donnell's love child, I mean Charlie Weis.
MrIUBasketball

AOL

#7 Aug 29, 2007
Take your blinders off Mr. Blow, IU would lose to Navy, Air Force and Stanford. The Duke/IU game would be a toss up and Duke might be favored. Do you even know one thing about our IU football team, Lynch coached some IU games last year?
ND Really Blows

Sugar Land, TX

#8 Aug 29, 2007
MrIUBasketball wrote:
Take your blinders off Mr. Blow, IU would lose to Navy, Air Force and Stanford. The Duke/IU game would be a toss up and Duke might be favored. Do you even know one thing about our IU football team, Lynch coached some IU games last year?
And you base your remarks on what? A gut feeling? Your eternal passion for Army/Navy football? Take YOUR blinders off amigo, and come to terms with the reality that ND will have a losing season and lose to very mediocre opponents. And "Coach" is a relative term when you're the interim coach for two games while your head coach is fighting for his life. Being the "Head Coach" is a bit different moron. Real classy man, showing some real class and intelligence.
Phil

Chicago, IL

#9 Aug 29, 2007
Not to be a complete Lynch apologist, but there were a lot of other factors that played a role into the early losses last the least of which was Lynch being the head guy. Could some of it been his fault, sure, but he definitely doesn't deserve all the blame. First and foremost, IU was struggleing even before Lynch's two games, remember the near loss to BSU. IU didn't get it into gear until two games after Hep was back. IU had a QB controversy, was missing its best player in Hardy, had to deal with an emotion of Hep not being around. And if you still want to blame Lynch's coaching during those games, remember he was pulling double duty between HC and OC. Having to adjust to taking on Head Coaching duties while still making the play calls as OC would be tough for anyone. This certainly isn't a guarantee for success, not just reason to completely right him off.
NDame

Palo Alto, CA

#10 Aug 29, 2007
ND Really Blows wrote:
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And you base your remarks on what? A gut feeling? Your eternal passion for Army/Navy football? Take YOUR blinders off amigo, and come to terms with the reality that ND will have a losing season and lose to very mediocre opponents. And "Coach" is a relative term when you're the interim coach for two games while your head coach is fighting for his life. Being the "Head Coach" is a bit different moron. Real classy man, showing some real class and intelligence.
LOL. IU *trying* to make fun of someone else's football team is like Chris Farley trying to call someone fat.

Your *head* coach was coaching a team that *should* have been inspired to win one for their ailing coach. How did they do? Lost to a Div. 2 team, didn't they? Beat ball State by one point? Even while trying to "win one for the gipper"? Lynch must have given a heack of a pep talk!

Wasn't Lynch fired by lowly Ball State?

And he didn't get any offers from a Div 1-A school?

Nor any offers from a Div 1-AA school?

Lynch ended up at a Div. 1-AAA school.
How pathetic is that?

But, at least he has one of the worst freshman classes in the nation to work with. Take a horrid team from last year, couple it with a coach that no Div 1-A or Div 1-AA school wanted, and give it an embarrassing freshman class, and you're looking at a two win season.

Meanwhile, most recruiting services rank our class as #1 in the nation. But I realize that you have no idea how that feels. You haven't even been to a bowl game in almost 15 years.

You haven't been to a bowl game in the eight years that Clinton was in office, nor the seven years of George Bush.

IU is the only school that I know that has to look up to Duke. The Duke football team, of course.
Phil

Chicago, IL

#11 Aug 29, 2007
***just reason not to completely right him off

felt like I should correct that.
MAC

Indianapolis, IN

#12 Aug 29, 2007
NDame wrote:
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LOL. IU *trying* to make fun of someone else's football team is like Chris Farley trying to call someone fat.
Your *head* coach was coaching a team that *should* have been inspired to win one for their ailing coach. How did they do? Lost to a Div. 2 team, didn't they? Beat ball State by one point? Even while trying to "win one for the gipper"? Lynch must have given a heack of a pep talk!
Wasn't Lynch fired by lowly Ball State?
And he didn't get any offers from a Div 1-A school?
Nor any offers from a Div 1-AA school?
Lynch ended up at a Div. 1-AAA school.
How pathetic is that?
But, at least he has one of the worst freshman classes in the nation to work with. Take a horrid team from last year, couple it with a coach that no Div 1-A or Div 1-AA school wanted, and give it an embarrassing freshman class, and you're looking at a two win season.
Meanwhile, most recruiting services rank our class as #1 in the nation. But I realize that you have no idea how that feels. You haven't even been to a bowl game in almost 15 years.
You haven't been to a bowl game in the eight years that Clinton was in office, nor the seven years of George Bush.
IU is the only school that I know that has to look up to Duke. The Duke football team, of course.
It is not div 1-AAA. It is division III.
FatBoy Slim

Indianapolis, IN

#13 Aug 29, 2007
Regardless if Hutchens is a homer or not, if IU doesn't go to a bowl game this year, they should seriously think about shutting that program down.

As far as the rest of his picks go, most seem to be OK except for Illinois. I don't think they are near that bad...he states that depending on highly touted freshman and sophomores is risky. True, but wouldn't it be more risky to depend on lowly touted athletes (IU)?
Blueblood

Bloomington, IN

#14 Aug 29, 2007
NDame wrote:
<quoted text>
LOL. IU *trying* to make fun of someone else's football team is like Chris Farley trying to call someone fat.
Your *head* coach was coaching a team that *should* have been inspired to win one for their ailing coach. How did they do? Lost to a Div. 2 team, didn't they? Beat ball State by one point? Even while trying to "win one for the gipper"? Lynch must have given a heack of a pep talk!
Wasn't Lynch fired by lowly Ball State?
And he didn't get any offers from a Div 1-A school?
Nor any offers from a Div 1-AA school?
Lynch ended up at a Div. 1-AAA school.
How pathetic is that?
But, at least he has one of the worst freshman classes in the nation to work with. Take a horrid team from last year, couple it with a coach that no Div 1-A or Div 1-AA school wanted, and give it an embarrassing freshman class, and you're looking at a two win season.
Meanwhile, most recruiting services rank our class as #1 in the nation. But I realize that you have no idea how that feels. You haven't even been to a bowl game in almost 15 years.
You haven't been to a bowl game in the eight years that Clinton was in office, nor the seven years of George Bush.
IU is the only school that I know that has to look up to Duke. The Duke football team, of course.
You are incredibly dumb. Duke went 0-12 last year. IU went 5-7, yet Duke would be favored. yeah right.

And ND's men's b-ball program is a joke compared to IU's, so don't go claiming that ND has a better athletics program.

ND should worry about its professors molesting students, not athletics.
NDAlum

Jeffersonville, IN

#15 Aug 29, 2007
How many teams scheduled IU as the homecoming opponent, AKA a "sure win"? Three? LOL!

Ben Davis tried to schedule IU, but IU was looking for easier opponents.

There isn't one starter on IU's team that would even make the Notre Dame squad, and you loosiers know it.
John Galt

Indianapolis, IN

#16 Aug 29, 2007
NDame wrote:
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LOL. IU *trying* to make fun of someone else's football team is like Chris Farley trying to call someone fat.
Your *head* coach was coaching a team that *should* have been inspired to win one for their ailing coach. How did they do? Lost to a Div. 2 team, didn't they? Beat ball State by one point? Even while trying to "win one for the gipper"? Lynch must have given a heack of a pep talk!
Wasn't Lynch fired by lowly Ball State?
And he didn't get any offers from a Div 1-A school?
Nor any offers from a Div 1-AA school?
Lynch ended up at a Div. 1-AAA school.
How pathetic is that?
But, at least he has one of the worst freshman classes in the nation to work with. Take a horrid team from last year, couple it with a coach that no Div 1-A or Div 1-AA school wanted, and give it an embarrassing freshman class, and you're looking at a two win season.
Meanwhile, most recruiting services rank our class as #1 in the nation. But I realize that you have no idea how that feels. You haven't even been to a bowl game in almost 15 years.
You haven't been to a bowl game in the eight years that Clinton was in office, nor the seven years of George Bush.
IU is the only school that I know that has to look up to Duke. The Duke football team, of course.
Unfortunately our Head Coach passed away you insensitive d-bag. Given the circumstances and timing Bill Lynch was our only option as an interim coach. He fell into the position being an assistant and we are going to let him ride the season out and likely bring in someone else in. Head Coaches aren't to eager to leave another program on such short notice nor did IU want to make a rush hire like that. We are investing millions in our football program and we have produced some decent NFL talent.

James Hardy is one of the better WRs in the college game today and Kellen Lewis shows flashes of great play. Marcus Thigpen is ESPN All-American. This is a program that has had some decent momentum building and we'll see if we can keep it up EVEN AFTER OUR HEAD COACH PASSED AWAY. Why you are knocking an interim coach is beyond me. I also pull for Notre Dame, but I would be very hesitant in criticizing IU with the question marks looming over ND. Hopefully both squads exceed expectations and hopefully IU can move forward despite a tragic, unfortunate loss of its leader.
HoosierLynchPart y

AOL

#17 Aug 29, 2007
If we are going to ridicule another instate football program, maybe we should pick on one we are better than. Can anyone give me a name of another division 1 instate school we are better than?
NDame is HUGE homer

Evansville, IN

#18 Aug 29, 2007
NDame wrote:
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LOL. IU *trying* to make fun of someone else's football team is like Chris Farley trying to call someone fat.
Your *head* coach was coaching a team that *should* have been inspired to win one for their ailing coach. How did they do? Lost to a Div. 2 team, didn't they? Beat ball State by one point? Even while trying to "win one for the gipper"? Lynch must have given a heack of a pep talk!
Wasn't Lynch fired by lowly Ball State?
And he didn't get any offers from a Div 1-A school?
Nor any offers from a Div 1-AA school?
Lynch ended up at a Div. 1-AAA school.
How pathetic is that?
But, at least he has one of the worst freshman classes in the nation to work with. Take a horrid team from last year, couple it with a coach that no Div 1-A or Div 1-AA school wanted, and give it an embarrassing freshman class, and you're looking at a two win season.
Meanwhile, most recruiting services rank our class as #1 in the nation. But I realize that you have no idea how that feels. You haven't even been to a bowl game in almost 15 years.
You haven't been to a bowl game in the eight years that Clinton was in office, nor the seven years of George Bush.
IU is the only school that I know that has to look up to Duke. The Duke football team, of course.
Horrid team last year? Indiana was one win away from a bowl game! There were a couple bowls that were hoping IU would become eligible so they could have them playing. We have a very strong offense coming back that also now has experience. Two win season? Are you freaking serious? If you are, if you are just go jump off the Grand Canyon and tell me how it feels when you land. Look at the schedule for crying out loud. One more thing, don't bring Chris into this discussion. You've already felt the need to come in here and make it all about Notre Dame like all Irish fans do.
MrIUBasketball

AOL

#19 Aug 30, 2007
Take a close look at IU's schedule, it is horrendous. We should just go ahead and join the MAC. IU will be hard pressed to win five even against the very weak schedule.

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