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Rob Oller commentary: Special teams need new attitude | BuckeyeXtra

There are 25 comments on the Columbus Dispatch story from Oct 23, 2010, titled Rob Oller commentary: Special teams need new attitude | BuckeyeXtra. In it, Columbus Dispatch reports that:

Ohio State still might be undefeated, ranked No.1 and on track for the national championship game if only the Buckeyes had pounded Wisconsin into powder during the time it took to read this sentence.

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Buckeye in Florida

Valrico, FL

#1 Oct 23, 2010
Actua;;y, special temas need a designated coach!
Buckeye in Florida

Valrico, FL

#2 Oct 23, 2010
Actually, special tems need a designated coach!
James Houston

Columbus, OH

#3 Oct 23, 2010
I agree with the idea that the special teams unit needs a coach and a take no prisoners attitude. However, based on what I have observed about our buckeyes, they all could use a shot of attitude. When is the last time you saw an "O" lineman pancake someone? when can you recall our offensive line take charge of a game like Wisconsin did to us last week? Our defensive line is good but not spectacular. How many times did you see our defensive line disrupting plays in the backfield? I seem to recall ONE player constantly pressuring our quarterback and in the backfield disrupting our running and passing game. No-one could block him. And yet we are a Division one "elite" football program? Why did we abandon the running game in the second half when we finally started to get some rhythm? I know that I don't need to go any further. You all know what I am talking about. I would like to see a coach and our coaches with a little fire in their belly! The team would respond alike. Jim Tressel is the heartbeat of Ohio State football. It begins and ends with him. Not one time have I ever hear him take responsibility for the teams failures or shortcomings. In his sanitzed "Ward Cleaver" news conferences, He always alludes to the obvious "we've got to get better, I think these young men will work hard and focus on next week". This is the constant tone of Jim Tressel. I would like for him to admit that his play calling is subpar and he has got to get better. Don't even bother including our redzone offensive ineffectiveness. I have seen high school teams that execute more efficiently on a consistent basis then our team. The sad thing is that no matter how much we point out the obvious, these words will go unheaded. Ohio state football will continue to be good but not great!!

“The One, The True”

Since: Dec 09

Creation

#4 Oct 23, 2010
It's not attitude, it's coaching. It' Jim Tressel's analytical personality getting into everything. Not one coach on this staff is of the mind to let the kids get out and make plays, they are conditioned to over think every move. They are so worried about making mistakes that they don't make plays.

Against lesser teams it doesn't show up, but wen the talent is equal, forget it. Tressel's charges look slow, timid and confused because they are taking an extra second to ponder whether or not they're ding everything right. Tressel strives for perfection, other coaches understand perfection is unobtainable so they settle for playing hard, playing fast and playing each minute like it's the last.
Paul

Hillsboro, TN

#5 Oct 23, 2010
Let's not blame Tressel for Newsome going downfield, on the opening kickoff, and leaning into the blocker, instead of flying into him and knocking him on his keester. That would have left the runner with no room and never getting the momentum to run untouched into the end zone. Like Nicky said, it's about individual attitude.

Since: Nov 09

Findlay, OH

#6 Oct 23, 2010
Special teams has been a problem since the first game of the season. Say all you want about players needing to have a reckless approach to special teams but the fact that the stench has grown worse 7 games into the seaon is WITHOUT EXCUSE and leads any sensible person to one conclusion: "CRAPPY COACHING." Everyone realizes that the return at Camp Randall set the tone for the entire game.

When Tressel keeps on saying "we need to get better" the motto should apply equally to coaching as it does to players. Ultimately, the blame for special teams rests with the head coach because there is no evidence that anything has been done to improve it.
Jack Tatums Grandpa

New Albany, OH

#7 Oct 23, 2010
James Houston is right on the money. It really comes down to the whole team needing to be tougher. Let's face it- Wisconsin bullied OSU in every faze of the game. It was an old fashioned smack down. As J Cooper once said,"the dog won't hunt!" Sorry but it's true!
Been there

Hillsboro, TN

#8 Oct 23, 2010
Steve in Findlay wrote:
Special teams has been a problem since the first game of the season. Say all you want about players needing to have a reckless approach to special teams but the fact that the stench has grown worse 7 games into the seaon is WITHOUT EXCUSE and leads any sensible person to one conclusion: "CRAPPY COACHING." Everyone realizes that the return at Camp Randall set the tone for the entire game.
When Tressel keeps on saying "we need to get better" the motto should apply equally to coaching as it does to players. Ultimately, the blame for special teams rests with the head coach because there is no evidence that anything has been done to improve it.
When Tressel says, "we need to get better", he is including the entire team, coaches too. Try coaching at that level and see how successful you'd be. GO BUCKS!!!!!!
Been there

Hillsboro, TN

#9 Oct 23, 2010
Jack Tatums Grandpa wrote:
James Houston is right on the money. It really comes down to the whole team needing to be tougher. Let's face it- Wisconsin bullied OSU in every faze of the game. It was an old fashioned smack down. As J Cooper once said,"the dog won't hunt!" Sorry but it's true!
J Cooper quote! That right there should remind everyone how blessed we are to have Tressel as our HC!

GO BUCKS!!!!!!!!!

Since: Nov 09

Findlay, OH

#10 Oct 23, 2010
I consider myself to share a lot of the values and morals that Jim Tressel reportedly has in his personal life. I think that he has a lot of integrity and I do believe that his competitive juices flow. But I think that he is so committed to maintaining his calm demeanor and even keel that it has a trickle down effect.

Piety is admirable. But I am reminded of the great Stonewall Jackson whose piety and religious fervor would be hard to match. He had a staff member by the name of John Harmon who was anything but a saint, but he could get things done. There is a story about Jackson's troops crossing the Potomac River before the battle of Antietam. While Jackson was on his horse in the river overseeing the crossing it was Harmon who was driving the crossing of men, wagons, animals, and artillery with actions and language that would have made the great Stonewall Jackson cringe. But he said little to discourage Harmon because the job was getting done. Jackson had fire in his belly but the toughness was demonstrated in this instance by another.

If Jim Tressel wants to emphasize congeniality and family atmosphere, fine. But he needs some John Harmons on his staff in the river who will drive, inspire, motivate, and if need be scare players into doing their jobs. George Patton once said that an army without profanity could not fight its way out of a piss soaked paper bag. His men were more scared of him than they were of the Germans. The toughness being spoken of has to come from somewhere and if the coach can't inspire it, he needs to get someone who can.

For starters, LeCharles Bentley is now out of NFL football. But he was as nasty a center as you could get. He even fought with his own offensive line. How about making him offensive line coach? Tressel should hire him and then turn his head the other way and let LeCharles transfer some of his nastiness to that unit. This team needs an infusion of attitude and meanness in its play, and in a hurry.
Dave

Columbus, OH

#11 Oct 23, 2010
At least we finally have the name of a special teams coach, who puts the blame solely on the players. Where's the coaching. There clearly is coaching on the receiving teams part or they couldn't create any seams. And while we're on special teams, in the whole country, why aren't we able to recruit a kicker who can kick to the endzone. I see many games on a weekend, and it's amazing how many kickers in the rest of the country can kick to the endzone. Didn't any recruiter notice this when recruiting?
ytown02

Spearfish, SD

#12 Oct 23, 2010
Special teams needs a kicker that can kick it out of the endzone and some people that are not afraid to hit
Go Bucks
Greg

Houston, TX

#13 Oct 23, 2010
I believe the Buckeyes have enough firepower to get the job done up to Iowa. So between now and then here's hoping they concentrate on getting special teams fixed and pulling out the last two games. If they do, they'll be B10 champs (MSU will lose) and go to a BCS game.

Since: Nov 09

Findlay, OH

#14 Oct 23, 2010
Not suggesting that I could coach the Buckeyes. Nor is anyone who offers a thought on the Buckeyes. What makes you think that he means anything but the players?
Been there wrote:
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When Tressel says, "we need to get better", he is including the entire team, coaches too. Try coaching at that level and see how successful you'd be. GO BUCKS!!!!!!
moorebounce

Columbus, OH

#15 Oct 23, 2010
Actually Ohio State needs to recruit players who were good at Special Teams in high school. Special Teams is not for every player and I'm sure most of these recruits didn't have to play on special teams in high school. Better yet only recruit players that are star players but played on special teams too while in high school. If Ohio State does that then that will end the discussion on how bad their special teams play is.
Bob

United States

#16 Oct 23, 2010
The team has no special teams coach! In 2002 Luke Fickell was the S-T coach. He and receivers coach Darrell Hazel are the only assistants on that staff worth a damn! Dantonio, Snyder, Spencer, & Conley have all left & Tressel hasn't replaced them with quality coaches.

It's been a broken record for 10 years now with Bollman & the "offensive" line. They nearly ruined the 2002 season on numerous occasions. The defense, special teams, Krenzel, Clarett & Jenkins carried that team while the O-line couldn't get out of the way. Now the D-line is looking average with little depth. Too many defensive players are dinged up. It's time for the S-T to get back to their reliable ways and for once, the O-line to be at least be mediocre at worst. I say at worst because they are not even mediocre.

Come on Buckeyes, get mean, get nasty, and kick some ***!!
brutus on cellphone

United States

#17 Oct 23, 2010
Hello buckeye fans. I'm in the stadium really early today. We r going to win. It's cloudy today so that means no racoon eyes for me after the game. Haha go bucks.
brutus on cellphone

United States

#18 Oct 23, 2010
LOL. I'm not in Indiana. I'm in Columbus, Ohio.
Sheenie Kikeman

Carlsbad, CA

#19 Oct 23, 2010
They need a total overhaul is what they need. Don't make excuses. So far it's EPIC FAIL. And it is something systemic, not just a guy missing his assignment.
Been there

Hillsboro, TN

#20 Oct 23, 2010
Steve in Findlay wrote:
Not suggesting that I could coach the Buckeyes. Nor is anyone who offers a thought on the Buckeyes. What makes you think that he means anything but the players?
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Read his book sometime. Also, he has included the coaches and entire staff in the,"we need to get better" statements, they just never include that in the quotes on TV and in the paper.

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