Cameron: O-Line work in progress

Full story: South Florida Sun-Sentinel

DAVIE New first-string left tackle Vernon Carey won't be the only offensive lineman tried in a different spot during this weekend's minicamp.
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Rudy

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#1
Apr 30, 2007
 
The OL is going to be trouble. We have little depth that is ready to play, particularly at the tackle spots. What the Dolphins really need is for Alibi to progress into a starter or at least one of the young players like Toledo or a draft pick emerge and grab a starting spot (and play well). Getting a good LT would have a great domino effect on this line and unfortunately, the draft didn't provide one.

The other big question mark nobody seems to talk about is TE. Still question the decision to cut McMichael as he wasn't that expensive. David Martin will be a disappointment and there is little else on the roster.
blue

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#2
Apr 30, 2007
 
Once again, I am baffled as to why the Fins staff want to make Carey a left tackle. The guy has been a right tackle his entire college and so far pro career. Instead of just making him the best right tackle and at least have one solid o-lineman, they will start tinkering with him again. Wanny tried and failed, Saban tried it and failed, and now Camerron is going to try it. Let the guy play right tackle already.
Timmyy

Delray Beach, FL

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#3
Apr 30, 2007
 
Cam and Muller are now on their way out, three more years of now playoffs and bing the worst team in the AFC East due to a bad QB decision will get them fired. Who is the next coach and GM?

If Beck becomes a starter and Quin becomes a "star" the dolphins will look like a bunch of idiots. No matter what happens Qunnn needs to fails so that the phins don't look like a bunch of fools for taking a HURT WR.

I will say it now....Ginn will never play a snap for the phins....he is a Yateel Green.
dolphin donnie of na

Rehoboth, MA

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#4
Apr 30, 2007
 
holy crap, timnmyy your out on a limb,stop comparing the two let it eat boy, let it eat.see what comes of this,opening day kickoff will give us all a much clearer mind and attitude,this weekend was EXHAUSTING!!
flh

Little Rock, AR

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#5
Apr 30, 2007
 
Who gives a s**t...this team will not win more than 4 games. According to ESPN, Ginn will be in a boot for 3 more months. GREAT draft idiots.
Steve

Merritt Island, FL

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#6
Apr 30, 2007
 
okay in order.

Rudy: Hudson Houck has a history of taking mean D-linemen and turning them into great o-linemen alah San Diego, so our DT from utah could also be in that mix. I agree Martin has not shown a lot due to injury and playing behind Bubba Franks, I would like to remind you that Antonio Gates was a non drafted free agent.

Blue: in college I believe you will find Carey played all spots on the line except Center. With all the lines that Houck has built we are starting to get him talent, just as the line gelled last year we have added players that he wants and likes, let's have some faith, it's April 30th.

Timmay: When Mueller got to New Orleans he started his first year with Haslett w/ 32 new players, and for the most part built the saints to what they are. I have my doubts about Ginn, but until this foot injury there were no significant injuries during his college carrer, unlike Yatil who was injured (knee's). Let's take a wait and see aproach as Ginn and Beck have been in Miami now for 48 hrs or so and are already learning the playbook. Watching training camp or the pre-season before you give a time of death.
By the way Beck is more accurate than Quinn, and has a stronger arm, and played an entire season with a seperated shoulder (tough), watch his interview he is a leader by example and that will fall into this teams mold well alah, Jason, Zach, and maybe Chambers won't jog his routes for this guy.
MGDHokie

Woodbridge, VA

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#7
Apr 30, 2007
 
There is some raw talent out in undrafted OT, LB and WR, let's just hope Cam and Randy can get to them before the rest of the league finds them.
Jon

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#8
Apr 30, 2007
 
Look at the stats on top ranked QBs in the draft, they rarely play out to be anything good. Shea worked with Quinn preparing him for the draft so obviously he saw something in Quinn that he didn't like for the Dolphins. Quit getting all your information from those idiots in the press and watch some old OSU games. Ginn is an awesome reciever and a return man. We need speed at reciever and now we have it. You people are already bashing the coach and the season is still 4 months away. Act like a real fan and cheer for your team no matter what happens!
Jojo

Stockbridge, GA

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#9
Apr 30, 2007
 
this sucks how are you going to draft a receiver that high. they need to kill themselves
Jojo

Stockbridge, GA

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#10
Apr 30, 2007
 
we need a talent at the guard and we should have got amobi okoye or brady quinn not a receiver that is hurting
footballfreek40

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Apr 30, 2007
 
blue wrote:
Once again, I am baffled as to why the Fins staff want to make Carey a left tackle. The guy has been a right tackle his entire college and so far pro career. Instead of just making him the best right tackle and at least have one solid o-lineman, they will start tinkering with him again. Wanny tried and failed, Saban tried it and failed, and now Camerron is going to try it. Let the guy play right tackle already.
I totally agree with this post. I wondered myself....why not leave this guy alone because it really has set back his development somewhat in my opinion. If your gonna pick a guy that high, you should know what he can do.
Chris Nelson

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#12
Apr 30, 2007
 
It's Geoff Pope.
Bullwinkle College

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#13
Apr 30, 2007
 
Perhaps the Dolphins will sign quarterback Art Fargo out of Bullwinkle College. Fargo was a four year starter for the Rockies and averaged 280 yards passing per game. He threw just two interceptions his senior year. Fargo is stronger and more fluid than Beck. Dallas had worked out Fargo a few weeks ago.
Dan in WPB

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Apr 30, 2007
 
footballfreek40 wrote:
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I totally agree with this post. I wondered myself....why not leave this guy alone because it really has set back his development somewhat in my opinion. If your gonna pick a guy that high, you should know what he can do.
Sorry,Pal,Vernon played a LOT of LT in service of the Canes and his coach ,Art Keheo ,he could have been among the best if he controlled his conditioning.So give it a chance and maybe H.Houck knows something about coaching the O-Line
FinFan

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#15
Apr 30, 2007
 
Moving Vernan Carey to the left side may end up being a brilliant move. He has the skills and he was our most consistent lineman last year. We'll see how it goes.

As for drafting Ginn, I wanted Miami to draft Quinn. Remove Quinn from the situation and Ginn was picked at the right spot. Before the injury he was projected to go between 7 adn 12...we took him at 9. As for injury and size concerns I'll make one comparison, Marvin Harrison. They are the same size and Ginn is faster. He has excellent character and has proven he is willing to put in the practice time. His routes will become more polished with an NFL season under his belt. It wouldn't have been my pick, but it wasn't a bad selection with #9. At least it wasn't Jamar Fletcher, John Avery, etc.

All in all the draft wasn't flashy for us but it may yield some players for the future. Time will tell. Mueller and Cammeron have one season before I pass judgement on their draft and coaching.
joeblow

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May 1, 2007
 
Bullwinkle College wrote:
Perhaps the Dolphins will sign quarterback Art Fargo out of Bullwinkle College. Fargo was a four year starter for the Rockies and averaged 280 yards passing per game. He threw just two interceptions his senior year. Fargo is stronger and more fluid than Beck. Dallas had worked out Fargo a few weeks ago.
Dude, bullwinkle college? I can't even find stats on players from that school. I can't even find a website for this school, is this a joke? Are they D-2 or D-3? If this is a real place, he'd have to light the world on fire to get a sniff. If this is a joke, I'll have to turn up my sarcasm meter
bill

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#17
May 1, 2007
 
I will place my trust in MR.Houck as to his skill in teaching the players how to play in the NFL, most of the post on this site are by people who have never play on the college or pro level, so like MR. Bush I will say its what it is, just hot air. Bill
ralph champlin

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May 1, 2007
 
flh wrote:
Who gives a s**t...this team will not win more than 4 games. According to ESPN, Ginn will be in a boot for 3 more months. GREAT draft idiots.
and nobody really gives a s**t about your opinion on this matter so go post your crap somwhere else jets fan!!!!!!!!!!
Depbutch

Winter Garden, FL

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#19
May 2, 2007
 
I am concerned about the O line as in most previous years, but if we get Trent Green, as an amateur poker player, I think we may have checked our way into letting our opponents(mostly media and sports analysts) go all in with a very nice hand in our possession.
blue

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#20
May 2, 2007
 
RE: Carey playing LT and Hudson Houck. Yes, from time to time Carey played LT for the Canes; however he was primarily a RT. He skills are suited more so for that position. If Kehoe thought he could have been one of the best LT, he would have kept him there all the time and dealt with the condition issues. Now for Houck. Great line coach...no doubt. He's been on the Fins staff for a couple of years and has had Carey working at LT before, only to shift him back to RT, or guard. Further, the LT position, even with Houck coaching Carey was and still in need of an upgrade. Am I the only one to remember that Carey has been tried at left tackle on more than one occasion in his tenure as a Fin? Why is it now, all of a sudden, when Cam announces he's moving Carey to LT everyone thinks it's a brillent idea? Carey has become a solid RT. Why not keep him there and let him continue to get better at his natural position? Again, I think if they make the move as annouced, Carey's progression will suffer.

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