Green deal no giveaway

Green deal no giveaway

There are 61 comments on the South Florida Sun-Sentinel story from Apr 17, 2007, titled Green deal no giveaway. In it, South Florida Sun-Sentinel reports that:

While a Dolphins trade for Kansas City quarterback Trent Green remains imminent, Chiefs President/General Manager Carl Peterson continues to publicly hold a hard-line stance in negotiations.

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Mason

Fayetteville, NC

#22 Apr 18, 2007
Screw Kansas City. I would start Cleo before I gave up a 2nd and 7th for a 37 year old QB.
Mac

AOL

#23 Apr 18, 2007
Trent Green as no starting skills(love that word). He's 37 yr old. If he wasnt concussed, he's to old!!! Mueller dont be rushed into trading for this guy, and what ever you do, do not give up any draft pick unless its the last pick of the second day in the 2008 draft. You, aledged football people, let David Carr waltz into Carolina for pennys, dont compound that mistake with Green. We fans, would like to see the Dolphins return to respectability in our life time.
Mike 17-0

Stow, OH

#24 Apr 18, 2007
How does Green help us improve on this? He would only be a short term help if any so we shouldn't be giving up to much if anything to aquire. I still stand by my earlier statements that we should run as far away from this guy as possible.

No negative, anti Miami posts yet on this Dolphins forum.

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632 Chicago, 1920-
590 Green Bay, 1921-
546 NY Giants, 1925-
506 Redskins, 1932-
470 Rams, 1937-
468 Pittsburgh, 1933-
459 Detroit, 1930-
439 49ers, 1950-
429 Cardinals, 1920-
427 Philadelphia, 1937-
390 Cleveland, 1950-

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Mike 17-0

Stow, OH

#25 Apr 18, 2007
How does Green help us improve on this? He would only be a short term help if any so we shouldn't be giving up to much if anything to aquire. I still stand by my earlier statements that we should run as far away from this guy as possible.

No negative, anti Miami posts yet on this Dolphins forum.

All time record: 388-271-4 (.588) It should be noted that most of the teams ahead of Miami (in all time victories) were founded in the 20's and 30's with nobody founded later than 1950 (source: http://www.funtrivia.com/askft/Question22884 ....)
632 Chicago, 1920-
590 Green Bay, 1921-
546 NY Giants, 1925-
506 Redskins, 1932-
470 Rams, 1937-
468 Pittsburgh, 1933-
459 Detroit, 1930-
439 49ers, 1950-
429 Cardinals, 1920-
427 Philadelphia, 1937-
390 Cleveland, 1950-

Dolphins - AFC East Division Champions: 12 (1971-1974, 1979, 1981, 1983-1985, 1992, 1994, 2000)/ AFC Champions:(1971-1973, 1982, 1984)/ Super Bowl Champions:(1972-1973)

Dolphins Hall of Famers:(9)- Paul Warfield, Larry Csonka, Larry Little, Jim Langer, Dwight Stephenson, Bob Griese, Don Shula, Nick Buoniconti, Dan Marino
PHINTIM

Fort Myers, FL

#26 Apr 18, 2007
Now they are thinking about drafted a "unproven" punter? Would the Dolphins be gaining on this situation if it pans out by using the 7th rounder they gain for another punter/ kicker? If he is really good maybe another team will get him or we have to give up a 6th rounder to replinish the position. Moving on it is getting tiresome to keep hearing about Trent Green. Mueller needs to tell Peterson that he is correct that a "starting" QB is worth a 2nd and 7th rounder. What Mueller has to tell Peterson that they are not trading for Green "who is questionable as a starting QB after his concussion last year" as a full time starter but as a backup QB who will be given "a" chance to start but whose future is as a backup grooming another QB for the future. So is a QB tutor worth a 7th rounder maybe but difinitly nothing above. PS Peterson just for your knowlege Wes Welker whom you keep comparing to Trent G is a player who can take a hit and keep on playing and Trent G is a player who is just a hit away from never playing!

Since: Apr 07

ridgefarm Il

#27 Apr 18, 2007
Mason wrote:
Screw Kansas City. I would start Cleo before I gave up a 2nd and 7th for a 37 year old QB.
I agree completely. Miami would be better off spending the 2nd round pick on a QB, then the 7th on an offensive lineman for houck to develop.
Phinsfan

Okeechobee, FL

#28 Apr 18, 2007
Peterson must be crazy.Randy says I'll give you a 7th,Peterson says I want a 2nd.Randy says no.Now hes says he wants a 2nd and a 7th?Theres something wrong with this guy.He's not going to get anything when he has to release Green sooner or later.He better take the 7th or get nothing at all.GO PHINS!!!
Phinsfan

Okeechobee, FL

#29 Apr 18, 2007
I say nothing at all.Why even give up the 7th when we can get him for free?
chris

Lakeland, FL

#30 Apr 18, 2007
1. Green is the best solution for the next few years - get over it.
2. Peterson as ZERO leverage. He's just being a di#k
chris

Lakeland, FL

#31 Apr 18, 2007
Kyle wrote:
A 2nd and 7th for a close to 40 year old QB?!?!? Nothing has changed in Miami, THROW away the future for ANOTHER bust!
Some of you still don't seem to understand. KC has no leverage. ZERO-POINT-ZERO. That's why Peterson is making public statements. He's desperate.
It has been made clear that Green ONLY wants to play for Cameron and Shea and with THIS offense. Hence, he will only agree to restructure his $7 mil/yr. contract to go to the Dolphins. Hence, KC will get a 7th maybe a 6th to speed the process up. But, that's it. If he continues to play games - I say give him nothing. Green already knows the offense (apparently better than Cameron according to one article) so big hurry to get him here before the draft. Either way, he's coming and then we kick dumbte to the curb.
Dooz

New York, NY

#32 Apr 18, 2007
Amazing.. Carl?? HHAHAAHHAHAHA
chris wrote:
Does Peterson think he is negotiating with Speil-stedt? He's delusional.
He has 2 options:
It is a 7th rd. pick from Miami OR you pay Trent Green $7,000,000 to be a 3rd string QB.
Cue 'Jeopardy' song...
Deal or no deal?
Carl?
Rodney

Miami, FL

#33 Apr 18, 2007
chris wrote:
<quoted text>
Some of you still don't seem to understand. KC has no leverage. ZERO-POINT-ZERO. That's why Peterson is making public statements. He's desperate.
It has been made clear that Green ONLY wants to play for Cameron and Shea and with THIS offense. Hence, he will only agree to restructure his $7 mil/yr. contract to go to the Dolphins. Hence, KC will get a 7th maybe a 6th to speed the process up. But, that's it. If he continues to play games - I say give him nothing. Green already knows the offense (apparently better than Cameron according to one article) so big hurry to get him here before the draft. Either way, he's coming and then we kick dumbte to the curb.
I don't entirely agree that they have no leverage. KC and just about everybody else knows we're chomping at the bit to get rid of Culpepper. That would leave Lemon and some other nobody as the only quarterbacks on the roster. Timing is important because as much as Green may know of the offense, he still needs time to get accustomed to the receivers and their timing. I don't think the Dolphins want to drag this out to training camp.
toby

Benson, NC

#34 Apr 18, 2007
i say stick to our guns and wait to see if he is released.he has to big of a salary for them to keep him and he pretty much wants to play for us .i would not give up ANY draft pick for Green.thats what has us in the mess were in now.if we had drafted a QB back when fiedler was playing we probably would be in better shape now.
Mike 17-0

Stow, OH

#35 Apr 18, 2007
This is why Cpep and Ricky to the Raiders + switch first rounders will never happen. Cpep=hurt, Ricky=one step from a lifetime ban. All equals no trade value.
Rodney wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't entirely agree that they have no leverage. KC and just about everybody else knows we're chomping at the bit to get rid of Culpepper. That would leave Lemon and some other nobody as the only quarterbacks on the roster. Timing is important because as much as Green may know of the offense, he still needs time to get accustomed to the receivers and their timing. I don't think the Dolphins want to drag this out to training camp.
Terry

West Union, OH

#36 Apr 18, 2007
You may recall we got DC in a similar setup that is occurring with Green. Is this part deux?
Let Green stay at KC; they will unload him and pick him for free or let him go elsewhere!

Since: Apr 07

ridgefarm Il

#37 Apr 18, 2007
Trent Green is not going to solve the offensive problems. The reason Cleo Lemon and Gibrak Hamdan had problems in the recent minicap was blitzes. Until the offensive line can protect the QB it doesn't matter WHO is back there.
Fredrciano Melfrado

Jackson, NJ

#38 Apr 18, 2007
why the #$%& did we get rid of donnie jones, he was great last year. EVEN if he was a punter he still put the opposing O-Fence in bad feild position
Bill

Asheville, NC

#39 Apr 18, 2007
Tom Loy wrote:
Trent Green is not going to solve the offensive problems. The reason Cleo Lemon and Gibrak Hamdan had problems in the recent minicap was blitzes. Until the offensive line can protect the QB it doesn't matter WHO is back there.
I agree 100%, the O/line is the number 1 concern, as far as Peterson is concern, he is doing what he can to help his team, very smart, the question is will we be very smart and don't give up any draft picks for Green. Bill
Richard

Charlotte, NC

#40 Apr 18, 2007
Hi I'm just a dolphins fan that reads your articles and keeps up with the news down that way, but just wanted to throw out my opinion about what this team is doing. I think it would be a big mistake if this team gave up high draft picks for Trent Green. Sure he would be a band-aid and probably ease the suffering for the next year or two, with no quarterback, but wouldn't it make more sense to go after Drew Bledsoe or Jake Plummer who is just as good if not better than Green. This way you wouldn't have to give up future picks for someone that will only last two years probably. I'm a big Dolphins fan, and just like others I'm sure, just getting tired of the inconsistencies at that position. I think the franchise should invest and draft a quarterback every year until they find their future star, but it takes investment whether free agency or trading up in the draft to get a guy, like Cutler with Denver last year, to get a guy in here to be your future.
Daniel

Topeka, KS

#41 Apr 18, 2007
well all of u are t green haters he has put up more yards than peyton manning has since 2000 and phins need a qb badly i say draft a qb and keep trent there for 2 years... he may not be worth a 2nd rounder but he definetly worth a 3-4

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