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Projected starters from Chicago Bears' 2009 draft class

There are 30 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Apr 26, 2009, titled Projected starters from Chicago Bears' 2009 draft class. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

How many of the Bears ' draft picks will crack the starting lineup this season? Our experts give their best guess: Vaughn McClure: 2 Both wide receiver Juaquin Iglesias and cornerback D.J. Moore could be immediate impact players.

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Austin

Rockford, IL

#21 Apr 27, 2009
Any draft that produces 3-4 starters is a successful one. A draft that produces 3-4 starters AND Jay Cutler--this could be seen as the best use of draft picks in Chicago since the stock up prior to the 1985 Super Bowl run.
Smitty

Britton, MI

#22 Apr 27, 2009
It's not how many of these picks, jerry's kids, will start for the bears, its' how many could start on another NFL team that actually drafts tier talent, instead of bottom fishing in Jerry's bargain bin.

Let's review shall we: brush with the law, check; lost season due to injury but before that might have been 1 or 2 rounder, check; small school no one ever heard of but very athletic, check; overshadowed player on line with top prospect and high draft pick, check; impressed bears scouts after not doing much at small school in low tier conference, check; showed a lot of heart to make up for being kind of slow and not a top tier performer in any category, check. A conversion project from another position, check; a tweener, check.

So, let's hope they all make the team, the common denominator among all of these is they dont cost the bears much, and if they fail you can't blame jerry for blowing a top pick. He traded those just to be sure.

Great GMs for top franchises, know the college game and how the dominant teams in the bcs conferences recruit. They use that knowledge to select top tier athletes to build their team. Angelo seems to think that finding the rare outstanding player amongst small schools from lower tier conferences is the same as drafting a player from a bcs school. It is not.

Most of the players angelo is picking probably weren't even recruited by a top ten school, and probably couldn't have gotten on the field at most big ten or pac ten schools. But maybe they can start for the bears??? This is a good thing and that will count as success? That will be a failure of the whole plan that Angelo claims to be guided by, fear of failure in picking top tier prospects shouldn't be the rationale for selecting career minor leaguers, players who wouldn't otherwise be drafted, and those only a senile old man in oakland would think are a good idea.

So, the number of these picks that get on the field says more about the level of talent Angelo has filled the bears team with, more than it does about the strength of these picks relative to the talent in the rest of the league.

Pompei is right, 0 or one by necessity due to failure of the other players at the position. nice job jerry!
ldc

Champaign, IL

#23 Apr 27, 2009
Smitty wrote:
It's not how many of these picks, jerry's kids, will start for the bears, its' how many could start on another NFL team that actually drafts tier talent, instead of bottom fishing in Jerry's bargain bin.
Let's review shall we: brush with the law, check; lost season due to injury but before that might have been 1 or 2 rounder, check; small school no one ever heard of but very athletic, check; overshadowed player on line with top prospect and high draft pick, check; impressed bears scouts after not doing much at small school in low tier conference, check; showed a lot of heart to make up for being kind of slow and not a top tier performer in any category, check. A conversion project from another position, check; a tweener, check.
So, let's hope they all make the team, the common denominator among all of these is they dont cost the bears much, and if they fail you can't blame jerry for blowing a top pick. He traded those just to be sure.
Great GMs for top franchises, know the college game and how the dominant teams in the bcs conferences recruit. They use that knowledge to select top tier athletes to build their team. Angelo seems to think that finding the rare outstanding player amongst small schools from lower tier conferences is the same as drafting a player from a bcs school. It is not.
Most of the players angelo is picking probably weren't even recruited by a top ten school, and probably couldn't have gotten on the field at most big ten or pac ten schools. But maybe they can start for the bears??? This is a good thing and that will count as success? That will be a failure of the whole plan that Angelo claims to be guided by, fear of failure in picking top tier prospects shouldn't be the rationale for selecting career minor leaguers, players who wouldn't otherwise be drafted, and those only a senile old man in oakland would think are a good idea.
So, the number of these picks that get on the field says more about the level of talent Angelo has filled the bears team with, more than it does about the strength of these picks relative to the talent in the rest of the league.
Pompei is right, 0 or one by necessity due to failure of the other players at the position. nice job jerry!
Clearly, you were going to find something wrong with the draft no matter who they selected.

Instead of looking at what they bring, you went straight to the negatives.

But considering your argument, logic doesn't seem to matter to you anyway.

Because had we followed your logic, the Bears would have never had Walter Payton or Richard Dent.

And apparently, neither Brian Urlacher either, since he was never recruited.

Jay Culter and Mike Singletary weren't heavily recruited either -- only by doormat programs.

But all of that was never relevant to your point anyway.

You couldn't wait to bash the draft, no matter what they did.
bryan cook

Bettendorf, IA

#24 Apr 28, 2009
"When you don't have any picks in the first round, you should not expect to have instant starters." talk to matt forte, devin hester both made big impacts as rookies
BigJim

United States

#25 Apr 28, 2009
USMC Bears Fan wrote:
Iglesias better be ready to start. Why Bennett wasn't thrown out on his dumb **** for not being able to grasp the "system" is ridiculous. These guys played the position in college so they obviously know how to run routes, they get an NFL contract, and they have 4 months to learn the playbook. I'm sorry...4 months to learn the system? If it's a system, then all hell will break loose if they go on the field before they grasp it right? Give me a break. For a receiver, this system involves complex and detailed technical knowledge of things like routes, blocking, audible variations, break off points, and separation. 4 months is simply not enough time.
Getting running water and electricity to a house is part of a system. Playing wide receiver in the NFL is not. They feed us this and expect us to accept it, like if a receiver goes out there before he's "ready," he'll just run around aimlessly. I would love to hear Joniak and Thayer on the radio when the not-ready receiver runs off the field and through the stands when the ball's snapped, and security scatters to catch him and walk him back to the sidelines. "And that Popcorn Vendor had better keep his head up next time!"
So please Iglesias...be ready because they don't have anobody else!
Sorry,but thats one of the stupider posts I have read that goes on forever. Ron Turners playbook is more complex and difficult,most Bear fans know that. At least the fans that really get into the team. The fact it took him a little longer to get the playbook,Doesnt take away from his Talent on the field!! Which he hasnt been able to show us yet. You do realize it takes most receivers a couple years to get going in the NFL? This will be his 2nd year and he is ready to go. Or maybe the playbook scenario was not really why he didnt get to play. Maybe he was covering up for Ron Turner,who Knows? Bennett holds records for receptions in his 3 years,he averaged 75 per season!! This kid was said to Catch everything thrown his way,not afraid to go over the middle & make contact. Iglesius is the Same type of receiver as well. So with Hester we will have 3 capable receivers and Cutler to hit them all!! Plus Cutler has a rapport with Bennett,as they played together at Vandy. This was a great draft remember Cutler was our 1st pick,a already Proven Pro Bowl Franchise Q.B. Then Working from the 3rd round down. Angelo still grabbed several Gems & very good players late,once again. in F-Agency He also added Orlando Pace,Sheffer & Omiyale. That fixed a major trouble spot on our O-line,now its Strong. He tried to even get Torry Holt. Angelo even went strong with our 2nd rd pick to try to get Boldin as well. We have been Very Aggressive and are having a Great off season. With players starting to be released,we could end up with some good free agents as well. So If you are a Bear fan,Chill out,have a beer & relax. This will be a great year for our Bears!! Bye. Go Bears and Bear down!
tom

United States

#26 Apr 28, 2009
pompei is an idiot. how many of the bears 1st round picks made impacts. forte 2nd round hester 2nd round briggs 3rd round. same with other teams. brady 6th round colston 7th round
Soxfan4life

Des Moines, IA

#27 Apr 29, 2009
Now that the draft is over, how close do you think the Bears are to being Super Bowl contenders? Would you take one more gamble and go after Plaxico Burris? From what I've read, he's always been a good teammate and well liked by his teammates.
I feel a top notch WR puts us over the top. Also, I'm betting Manning goes back to Free Safety now that they got Moore nto play nickle.
USMC Bears Fan

United States

#28 Apr 29, 2009
BigJim wrote:
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Sorry,but thats one of the stupider posts I have read that goes on forever. Ron Turners playbook is more complex and difficult,most Bear fans know that. At least the fans that really get into the team. The fact it took him a little longer to get the playbook,Doesnt take away from his Talent on the field!! Which he hasnt been able to show us yet. You do realize it takes most receivers a couple years to get going in the NFL? This will be his 2nd year and he is ready to go. Or maybe the playbook scenario was not really why he didnt get to play. Maybe he was covering up for Ron Turner,who Knows? Bennett holds records for receptions in his 3 years,he averaged 75 per season!! This kid was said to Catch everything thrown his way,not afraid to go over the middle & make contact. Iglesius is the Same type of receiver as well. So with Hester we will have 3 capable receivers and Cutler to hit them all!! Plus Cutler has a rapport with Bennett,as they played together at Vandy. This was a great draft remember Cutler was our 1st pick,a already Proven Pro Bowl Franchise Q.B. Then Working from the 3rd round down. Angelo still grabbed several Gems & very good players late,once again. in F-Agency He also added Orlando Pace,Sheffer & Omiyale. That fixed a major trouble spot on our O-line,now its Strong. He tried to even get Torry Holt. Angelo even went strong with our 2nd rd pick to try to get Boldin as well. We have been Very Aggressive and are having a Great off season. With players starting to be released,we could end up with some good free agents as well. So If you are a Bear fan,Chill out,have a beer & relax. This will be a great year for our Bears!! Bye. Go Bears and Bear down!
Geez man, you take things way too seriously. Your post was longer than mine and as a response, went way off topic. So check yourself with the insults please. I bleed blue and orange, and go to great lengths just to be able to watch the games.

I played ball in college so I have a slight understanding of how complex a playbook can be. I also understand that rookie receivers have trouble adjusting to the size and speed of NFL CBs. That's no big secret. Even Larry Fitzgerald had some trouble with it, but he at least knew what he was supposed to do on the field.

So with all that free time, Bennett couldn't even understand a basic package of plays. I'm not a big believer in grace periods when being paid the amount of money that these guys do. Their only job is to work out, stay out of trouble, and learn the playbook. It's not too difficult. Dwayne Bowe didn't seem to have any trouble with it.
USMC Bears Fan

United States

#29 Apr 30, 2009
By the way Big Jim, "stupider" is not a word. In response to my stupid comment, it would be more stupid.
slo jim

Cantua Creek, CA

#30 May 3, 2009
a lot more stupid than...fits well
USMC Bears Fan wrote:
By the way Big Jim, "stupider" is not a word. In response to my stupid comment, it would be more stupid.

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