Give Bears credit

Give Bears credit

There are 54 comments on the TwinCities.com story from Apr 2, 2009, titled Give Bears credit. In it, TwinCities.com reports that:

Many NFL analysts - not to mention thousands of Viking fans - considered Jay Cutler the missing piece to the team's 2009 title run.

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JSF -

Saint Paul, MN

#47 Apr 3, 2009
its alot easier to mend a mistake where you did nothing than it is to mend a mistake where you did to much.
LOSTALLFAITH

Tekamah, NE

#49 Apr 4, 2009
There goes the stadium deal and the Vikings to LA... Thanks Childress... Im really starting to believe that the Wilf family has given up on us. I mean really we almost had a blacked out playoff game and this year will be much worse.I see no good outcome besides watching chilly get canned...
purplehaze

Canada

#51 Apr 4, 2009
CT Viking Fan wrote:
I remember the Herschel Walker trade. Were we really a pro-bowl running back away from the SuperBowl? Mike Lynn said yes, history said no. When it didn't work out we were strapped for talent to rebuild with for years. Mike Lynn was run out of town. This Viking team of today is good, not great. We lack some offensive playmakers like QB and WR. Getting Cutler would have filled the QB void but left us vulnerable in other places. I'm not sure Cutler was the RIGHT QB for the job either.
Zygi Wilf and Brad Childress seem to agree that Cutler was worth looking into but not worth the price. Wilf has said he wants to build a dynasty. He is being consistent, give him credit. We need a shot of youth and some depth to be competitive 2 or 3 years from now. The Bears took a gamble, a BIG gamble. History will tell if they were right or not. The Bears will be forced to build their squad with limited opportunities for the next couple of years. I don't think they can be highly competitive during that time.
For us Viking fans, the game isn't over. We still have the draft and there will be other players becoming available as teams trim their rosters. There are still other trade possibilities that may invlolve QB. As far as Cutler is concerned, we may have saved our future at the cost of the present.
...good post CT...when i think back on the WALKER trade, i remember screaming that this was a crap deal for the vikes : 1/ the players and picks far exceeded the value 2/ i think there was a stipulation that if the cowboys played the guys they rec'd in a certain number of games ( the exact number escapes me), then the picks would be lower round picks and conversely if they didn't...higher round picks. that in itself was just plain stupid and johnson proved it by sitting them out to get higher picks. lastly, WALKER was never a BARRY SANDERS type of rb...he needed the line to create large holes for him to take advantage of...basically east/west vs SANDERS juke/jive making something out of nothing. you maybe right about CUTLER'S price, but, as long as KLINK feels as he does about TJ...that to me will spell doom regardless of how good this team can be.
40for60

Carlton, MN

#52 Apr 4, 2009
CT Viking Fan wrote:
I remember the Herschel Walker trade. Were we really a pro-bowl running back away from the SuperBowl? Mike Lynn said yes, history said no. When it didn't work out we were strapped for talent to rebuild with for years. Mike Lynn was run out of town. This Viking team of today is good, not great. We lack some offensive playmakers like QB and WR. Getting Cutler would have filled the QB void but left us vulnerable in other places. I'm not sure Cutler was the RIGHT QB for the job either.
Zygi Wilf and Brad Childress seem to agree that Cutler was worth looking into but not worth the price. Wilf has said he wants to build a dynasty. He is being consistent, give him credit. We need a shot of youth and some depth to be competitive 2 or 3 years from now. The Bears took a gamble, a BIG gamble. History will tell if they were right or not. The Bears will be forced to build their squad with limited opportunities for the next couple of years. I don't think they can be highly competitive during that time.
For us Viking fans, the game isn't over. We still have the draft and there will be other players becoming available as teams trim their rosters. There are still other trade possibilities that may invlolve QB. As far as Cutler is concerned, we may have saved our future at the cost of the present.
Great Post CT
The only thing I would like to add is that Lynn wasn't from here, and he didn't waste any time getting out of here after that fiasco. I think Jerry and Mike struck a deal to help Lynn/Dallas, not the Vikings.
How else can you explain the bounty of players/draft picks for one running back?
I'll still never forget that first game in a Vikings uniform, Walker almost broke his first carry for a touchdown and ran for something like 168 yards in a win against Green Bush. Sadly, that was his best game in Purple.
Chillynewagegeni us

Eau Claire, WI

#55 Apr 4, 2009
CT Viking Fan wrote:
I remember the Herschel Walker trade. Were we really a pro-bowl running back away from the SuperBowl? Mike Lynn said yes, history said no. When it didn't work out we were strapped for talent to rebuild with for years. Mike Lynn was run out of town. This Viking team of today is good, not great. We lack some offensive playmakers like QB and WR. Getting Cutler would have filled the QB void but left us vulnerable in other places. I'm not sure Cutler was the RIGHT QB for the job either.
Zygi Wilf and Brad Childress seem to agree that Cutler was worth looking into but not worth the price. Wilf has said he wants to build a dynasty. He is being consistent, give him credit. We need a shot of youth and some depth to be competitive 2 or 3 years from now. The Bears took a gamble, a BIG gamble. History will tell if they were right or not. The Bears will be forced to build their squad with limited opportunities for the next couple of years. I don't think they can be highly competitive during that time.
For us Viking fans, the game isn't over. We still have the draft and there will be other players becoming available as teams trim their rosters. There are still other trade possibilities that may invlolve QB. As far as Cutler is concerned, we may have saved our future at the cost of the present.
This trade is nowhere near as bad as the Herschel Walker trade lets see 2 number 1s and a third with one player vs 3 number 1s 3 number 2s a 3rd and a 6th along with six players for Walker 2 3rds a 5th and a 10th I fail to see the comparison.
Seth Joyner

Minneapolis, MN

#56 Apr 4, 2009
I hope Sage has some game and takes the job. I do like Travaris thinking he will get better with age. Booty is in his second year now and should be heard from no later than next season. Competition is a good thing.
Eyeguy81

United States

#59 Apr 4, 2009
Did I miss the memo? I keep hearing that the Vikes window of opportunity is closing. Why? ESPN, NFL networks pundits are saying this. Are they just to lazy to check the facts and need to fill air time? I checked and their are only five of the regulary contributing starters on offense and defense that are over 30. Point being, we should still have some time to allow a QB to develop. T-Jack has had only about a 1 1/2 of starts. Compared to J. Cutler's 3 years. He may still be the man. Sage has never been given a chance. Not because he is not talented enough, but because of coaching/scheme changes just about every year he has been in the league. We even have enough time to draft a future starter and let him develop. I do not get what these "experts" are basing their comments on!
Archangel

Rochester, MN

#60 Apr 4, 2009
fire childress wrote:
stupid decisions is all childress can make..why doesn't Zig see that-all of the sporting announcers are making remarks about the Minnesota Vikings and not good ones, yet childress still has a job..can't understand that..


I don't like Klink either, but 2/3rds of the talking heads on the sport shows I've been watching STILL think that The Vikings are best in division. Most of 'em were making remarks about how Chicago has no receivers worth a $h!t, an aging defense, and an "O" line that has an open door policy.- Like I say, I don't like Childress much either, but you're getting alittle carried away pal.
Archangel

Rochester, MN

#61 Apr 4, 2009
Eyeguy81 wrote:
Did I miss the memo? I keep hearing that the Vikes window of opportunity is closing. Why? ESPN, NFL networks pundits are saying this. Are they just to lazy to check the facts and need to fill air time? I checked and their are only five of the regulary contributing starters on offense and defense that are over 30. Point being, we should still have some time to allow a QB to develop. T-Jack has had only about a 1 1/2 of starts. Compared to J. Cutler's 3 years. He may still be the man. Sage has never been given a chance. Not because he is not talented enough, but because of coaching/scheme changes just about every year he has been in the league. We even have enough time to draft a future starter and let him develop. I do not get what these "experts" are basing their comments on!


They're the same guys that had GB taking division last season, MN at #2, Detroit at #3. Then, they changed it (mid season) to Chicago on top, GB #2, etc. etc.- I hate like hell to say it, but the one that's gotten it right the most is Trent F***in' Dilfer....Scary, huh? And I used to think that he was dumber than a box of rocks at being an analyst...
Archangel

Rochester, MN

#62 Apr 4, 2009
CT Viking Fan wrote:
I remember the Herschel Walker trade. Were we really a pro-bowl running back away from the SuperBowl? Mike Lynn said yes, history said no. When it didn't work out we were strapped for talent to rebuild with for years. Mike Lynn was run out of town. This Viking team of today is good, not great. We lack some offensive playmakers like QB and WR. Getting Cutler would have filled the QB void but left us vulnerable in other places. I'm not sure Cutler was the RIGHT QB for the job either.
Zygi Wilf and Brad Childress seem to agree that Cutler was worth looking into but not worth the price. Wilf has said he wants to build a dynasty. He is being consistent, give him credit. We need a shot of youth and some depth to be competitive 2 or 3 years from now. The Bears took a gamble, a BIG gamble. History will tell if they were right or not. The Bears will be forced to build their squad with limited opportunities for the next couple of years. I don't think they can be highly competitive during that time.
For us Viking fans, the game isn't over. We still have the draft and there will be other players becoming available as teams trim their rosters. There are still other trade possibilities that may invlolve QB. As far as Cutler is concerned, we may have saved our future at the cost of the present.
Excellent post, CT. Well said. Spot-on.
Nobull

United States

#64 Apr 5, 2009
Sounds good to me.
tbone

Denver, CO

#65 Apr 6, 2009
yeah sure wrote:
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If you knew anything about history, you'd know the difference between the Hershel Walker trade and this one. Not even close.
The trade was lopsided, it very much the same thing. Back in the late 80 early ninties the vikings were said to be one RB away from a superbowl and they gave up the farm to get a RB that only runs well in the eye with a FB blocking for hime while we ran a single back or pro form offense. Meanwhile our draft pick built a dynasty in Dallas. Chicago same thing need a QB but gave up too much in return but also are short WRs that are slot recievers at best with an average running game and offensive line. The only strength is defense that is getting older. We will only see if this New Broncos coach has same drafting skills of a Jimmy Johnson. Remember these are 2 no 1's guaranteed to be the top 15 picks the next two years.
tbone

Denver, CO

#66 Apr 6, 2009
CT Viking Fan wrote:
I remember the Herschel Walker trade. Were we really a pro-bowl running back away from the SuperBowl? Mike Lynn said yes, history said no. When it didn't work out we were strapped for talent to rebuild with for years. Mike Lynn was run out of town. This Viking team of today is good, not great. We lack some offensive playmakers like QB and WR. Getting Cutler would have filled the QB void but left us vulnerable in other places. I'm not sure Cutler was the RIGHT QB for the job either.
Zygi Wilf and Brad Childress seem to agree that Cutler was worth looking into but not worth the price. Wilf has said he wants to build a dynasty. He is being consistent, give him credit. We need a shot of youth and some depth to be competitive 2 or 3 years from now. The Bears took a gamble, a BIG gamble. History will tell if they were right or not. The Bears will be forced to build their squad with limited opportunities for the next couple of years. I don't think they can be highly competitive during that time.
For us Viking fans, the game isn't over. We still have the draft and there will be other players becoming available as teams trim their rosters. There are still other trade possibilities that may invlolve QB. As far as Cutler is concerned, we may have saved our future at the cost of the present.
should have read this first well said!!
PC_Mike

Saint Louis, MO

#67 Apr 7, 2009
Unfortunately, with Childress not concerned with the QB position as he needs to be, the offense will again turn to AP for most of its success. While this may and could work, it is nevertheless putting undo hardship and strain upon one player for 16 games. I know AP has the strength and courage to put the team on his back, but why subject him to this week in and week out! The best RB in the league and old baldly is taking the chance that AP can pull it off...why do that when you can get a QB such as Cutler in to take off the pressure? This guy makes no sense and I don't care how long he has coached professional football. Brad is terrible.

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