Bears can be successful even without ...

Bears can be successful even without playoffs

There are 64 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Dec 17, 2008, titled Bears can be successful even without playoffs. In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

Summer seems so long ago. But one memorably hot day in Bourbonnais represents the best place to start any explanation of why the Bears don't have to make the playoffs to make a success out of the 2008 season.

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Stephen

Houston, TX

#1 Dec 17, 2008
I actually was thinking 8-8, maybe 9-7 with some luck, before the season started. However, they could very easily be 11-3 right now if they didn't p.i.s.s. away some games. But, they are only as good as their record. They are a 8-6 team.

I don't think 10 wins would be a successful season. A successful season is winning the Super Bowl. I think the players would agree.
Mgray

Fairburn, GA

#2 Dec 17, 2008
Real teams play 4 titles......and nothing else. 2 seasons without playing in the post season is NOT an accomplishment.
Gator_Chicago

Edwardsburg, MI

#3 Dec 17, 2008
Super Bowl win = Success. Two would be even nicer...

Anything else is subpar, very subpar
maddog

Chicago, IL

#4 Dec 17, 2008
I think Smith does an amazing job of getting the most out of limited talent on the roster, but he has made so many bad calls, even in games they win (ie last week's fake punt), he has cost them already being in the playoffs. Beyond this, I can see the defense completely breaking down next year. While they have several players on offense I can see improving next year (Orton, Hester, Forte, Olson) all their best defensive players are on the downside of their careers.
Wrigley Field Bear

San Francisco, CA

#5 Dec 17, 2008
Successful season? Maybe. They looked like a 4-12 to 6-10 team to me before the season started. But considering that they won the NFC just two years ago with a young team, aside from the offensive line, everything that's happened since then can only be seen as an abject failure.
sam

Winnetka, CA

#6 Dec 18, 2008
save it david haugh,
you sound like some one who is trying to cover his rear end in anticipation of a very realistic possibility of the team not making the playoffs.to quote some of the things great football minds have said over and over you play this game to win and there are no moral victories and close this year does not mean any thing for the next year.unless by some miracle this team makes the playoffs and and then has a very competitive showing in the playoffs this season would be concluded as a major bust.this is a team that was in the super bowl 2 years ago and they have been going backward.Bottom line make the playoffs and win in the playoffs or this season is a definite bust.we fans spend so much money on our beloved bears by going to their games and buying their merchendice and so much time writing these useless posts on this website while our team is going in the wrong direction and people like jerry angelo and lovie smith are making millions in this bad economy.
Mr Rochester

Verona, VA

#7 Dec 18, 2008
With all the talent on that roster they should have been able to finish at 12-4 or 11-5. Bob Babich needs to be fired. He's taken a talented squad to the gutter, and squandered the window we had with Urlacher. Now the Bears will have missed the playoffs 2 years in a row. Draft away Jerry, but hopefully you have the guts to fire away.
Rance Mohammitz

Elizabethtown, KY

#8 Dec 18, 2008
All this can be summed up thus - The Bears as an organization simply seems to lack B.A.L.L.S a majority of the time.
Da Bearss

United States

#9 Dec 18, 2008
Nice column, Dave. But I'm still waiting for you and all the other Bears nay-sayers on the Trib to step up and say "I was wrong.". I had these Bears at 11-5 before the season started and if we had not given away three games (four if you count Tennessee), we'd be right there. Time to man up, Dave, and admit you were wrong.
Wheatonite

Saint Charles, IL

#10 Dec 18, 2008
I usually enjoy reading David Haugh's articles. Not this time.

So, we beat a bunch of sub-.500 teams who happen to be on our close to easiest-in-the-league schedule and that makes us successful? Please. We can't even come close to competing with the best franchises in the league.

The difference between 6-10 and 10-6 this year? A surprisingly good first year from Forte, who opened up more opportunites for Orton. Our cover two defense lacks....a lot.

When did Haugh's expectations get so low? Mine are higher, I'm afraid.
Chris R

United States

#11 Dec 18, 2008
David,

Slow news day? Bears Kool-Aid for breakfast? Maybe a little spiked egg nog? Jeez, what a lame article. Did the Bears buy you up as part of the Trib's reorganization? Should we call you Gov. Haugh?

If the dung heap is scented of lavender, it is still a dung heap.

The team needs arguably a brain and a heart transplant to start and to get rid of their overpaid and complacent players.

If pap such as this is the best you can come up with, God help you.
the truth is out there

Richton Park, IL

#12 Dec 18, 2008
Chris R wrote:
David,
Slow news day? Bears Kool-Aid for breakfast? Maybe a little spiked egg nog? Jeez, what a lame article. Did the Bears buy you up as part of the Trib's reorganization? Should we call you Gov. Haugh?
If the dung heap is scented of lavender, it is still a dung heap.
The team needs arguably a brain and a heart transplant to start and to get rid of their overpaid and complacent players.
If pap such as this is the best you can come up with, God help you.
good ole dave just tryin to make this horrible team better then it really is lol. He is just tryin to ride that orton bs so fans will be forced to think that this was a positive season. He will not get better and he will eventually get run out of town (thank God), neck beard and all. This guys stats speak for themselves. The teams stats speak for themselves. Forte will be dead in 2 more seasons unless we get a good qb and wr. Yet still this team played better then expected. Thank you forte and .....well...um.....forte?
Denny Green

Tallahassee, FL

#13 Dec 18, 2008
Well, forget having any free agents come to chicago- the Bears won't pay them and the fans treat the players like crap here. The nonsense about Tillman's penalty is exhibit A- that guy caused more key turnovers than any other player. He is way, way more productive than Hester.

I wouldn't consider this season a success for 1 simple reason- the team is not getting better. The team had a weak schedule and beat some sorry teams. Going into next year, there is scouting info on Orton and Forte.

The receivers remain a bunch of one trick ponies. The bears are going to be a bye week for the good teams that will appear on their schedule after 9-7. The only bright spot will be that one of the kids angelo drafts from a directional Louisiana school might actually be able to play safety.
Bruce

Fernandina Beach, FL

#14 Dec 18, 2008
David:

Per usual, you miss the big picture once again. I hope you have added the words "Bears apologist" to your Tribune business card, because that is what you have become, unfortunately.

First of all, have the yarbles to call things as they really are, or find another profession. This team is once again finishing on the outside looking in, and it's once vaunted defense is now filled with players who have seen their best days. Our defensive coordinator only has his job because he is a FOL (friend of Lovie), and we have consistently cut offensive players with greater ability than the ones we have chosen to keep on the roster. At this point, the only reasonable conclusion is that Lovie Smith is perhaps the worst evaluator of offensive talent in the NFL, hands down. Not exactly a great recipe for success, I hate to tell you.

And what about the future of this team? Here's what will happen: the Bears will fool themselves into believing that Kyle Orton is the long-term answer at QB, when in reality he is simply the next mediocre guy in a long line of mediocrity at that position. It will take them another 2 or 3 seasons to wake up to the fact that he will never take any team to the promised land in this league, and then we will once again go back to the drawing board. Sad, but true, Bears fans - his pop gun arm and slow release will never get the job done in this league, sorry to say.

So we will mire in mediocrity for the next few seasons until we pull the plug on Orton and enter yet another rebuilding phase.

And that, Bears' fans, is reality, whether you want to accept it or not.

“Stimulate THIS!”

Since: Aug 08

West Frankfort, IL

#15 Dec 18, 2008
Well, this article is like saying Obama is the president even though he came from the corrupt Chicago Democratic political machine. In all honesty, I called for a 5-11 season. So yes, I am surprised; but unlike the Kool-Aid Lovie drinkers out there, I attribute it to weak competition. The NFL has sooooo many mediocre teams. If Forte doesn't become the back he is, then we are talking 5-11.

PS: I want a Division Title because I already sent in my money for playoff tickets.
Dave

New York, NY

#16 Dec 18, 2008
I do like the piece as this team has been criticized way too much by the terrible bandwagon jumping local fans and media...The Bears are the winningest team in the NFC since Lovie took over and yet people here in Chicago act like they are an embarressment....I do get that fans are stupid and very irrational- like the guy who said anything less than the superbowl is very subpar....Look up subpar again in the dictionary and tell me how only 28 out of 30 teams can be subpar....But I digress...You as potentially the local media authority should be held to a different standard then Joe bandwagon jumper...you should be rational and mostly unbiased....To me though you have blown all credibility this year largely through 3 things....

1. Saying they would be lucky to win 6 games when the Bears were obviously a much better than 6-10 team. Dont give me the nobody thought they would be this good excuse either as Vegas had the over under at 8. Nobody outside of Chicago thought they would be 6 wins bad is closer to the truth.

2. Calling for a long term contact extension for Orton after like 3 games was just awful. Terrible logic for too many reasons even to list.

3. Saying the Bears should have signed Berrian. He is robbing the vikings blind. He is not even in the top 40 in the league in catches but the 4th highest paid receiver...He is the same player he was here...he makes 5 or 6 huge plays a year...drops way too many balls and disapears for long stretches...a nice player to have on your team but not even close to what he is getting paid.
Arnie

Duluth, GA

#17 Dec 18, 2008
Bruce wrote:
David:

Sad, but true, Bears fans - his pop gun arm and slow release will never get the job done in this league, sorry to say.
Pop Gun Arm... How far do you have to throw the ball for you???? He over threw Hester with a 55 yard bomb against the Saints... Hester's next progression will be to be able to adjust better to the long ball then Orton and him will be hooking up big time.

If we see more hester/lloyd/olsen combinations on the field we'll see more production...
Bob l

United States

#18 Dec 18, 2008
Successful season, no way. This team is on the way down. They have shown no improvement over the past 4 years, and with no wide receivers, no back up quarter back, weak offensive and defensive lines there is not much hope for next year.
lou

Henderson, NV

#19 Dec 18, 2008
Dave wrote:
I do like the piece as this team has been criticized way too much by the terrible bandwagon jumping local fans and media...The Bears are the winningest team in the NFC since Lovie took over and yet people here in Chicago act like they are an embarressment....I do get that fans are stupid and very irrational- like the guy who said anything less than the superbowl is very subpar....Look up subpar again in the dictionary and tell me how only 28 out of 30 teams can be subpar....But I digress...You as potentially the local media authority should be held to a different standard then Joe bandwagon jumper...you should be rational and mostly unbiased....To me though you have blown all credibility this year largely through 3 things....
1. Saying they would be lucky to win 6 games when the Bears were obviously a much better than 6-10 team. Dont give me the nobody thought they would be this good excuse either as Vegas had the over under at 8. Nobody outside of Chicago thought they would be 6 wins bad is closer to the truth.
2. Calling for a long term contact extension for Orton after like 3 games was just awful. Terrible logic for too many reasons even to list.
3. Saying the Bears should have signed Berrian. He is robbing the vikings blind. He is not even in the top 40 in the league in catches but the 4th highest paid receiver...He is the same player he was here...he makes 5 or 6 huge plays a year...drops way too many balls and disapears for long stretches...a nice player to have on your team but not even close to what he is getting paid.
100% correct on Berrian!!
Forte Fan

Amery, WI

#20 Dec 18, 2008
So IL Bruno wrote:
Well, this article is like saying Obama is the president even though he came from the corrupt Chicago Democratic political machine. In all honesty, I called for a 5-11 season. So yes, I am surprised; but unlike the Kool-Aid Lovie drinkers out there, I attribute it to weak competition. The NFL has sooooo many mediocre teams. If Forte doesn't become the back he is, then we are talking 5-11.
PS: I want a Division Title because I already sent in my money for playoff tickets.
Keep your moronic political opinions to yourself.

We need a coaching staff that knows how to WIN, not to prevent a loss.

Beat the Pack!!!

Can't wait to see the Vikes get knocked off in the first round.

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