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Dolphins acquire QB Trent Green from Chiefs

There are 157 comments on the South Florida Sun-Sentinel story from Jun 5, 2007, titled Dolphins acquire QB Trent Green from Chiefs. In it, South Florida Sun-Sentinel reports that:

After nearly three months of trade negotiations, Kansas City quarterback Trent Green is set to become a member of the Dolphins.

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MikeJonesCitrusC ounty

Bradenton, FL

#156 Jun 8, 2007
Greg wrote:
Mikey, even YOU have been pissed off at the Dolfans here. No I honestly do not see bandwagon fans on the jets forum. We SUPPORT our team. Not always happy, but we stand by our players and team. Your fans here on these forums are a joke.
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Greg, every team has bandwagon and fair weather fans...every team in every professional sport. Some teams more than others I can grant you that. I was referring to the gay/black/personal jokes you mentioned...as if demeaning comments and unclassy posts are not used in a Jets forum(or any other forum for that matter). That comment you made about Dolfans being collectively classless was just that...classless.
patsfan

AOL

#157 Jun 9, 2007
congrats dolphans, this guy has been one of the best offensive players in football that last few years. He is the only reason the chiefs have had a winning record and made the playoffs last year. If only he had a decent team around him, he could have taken the chiefs to the superbowl.
Again congrats on getting Larry Johnson!
Oh wait a minute! you got trent green!
Ohhhh, just forget everything I just said.
Greg

United States

#158 Jun 9, 2007
Classless is not defined by making a general sweeping statement or opinion, it's defined by using the type of language and outright disgustinng remarks that you've used on these forums along with countless personal attacks. That shows no class...thus it's classless.

Sorry fella, I don't see that on any other forum with the same frequency as on South Florida forums. Florida has been recognized as having the rudest drivers and I have to add that this transfers into the rudest and no class posters
MikeJonesCitrusCounty wrote:
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Greg, every team has bandwagon and fair weather fans...every team in every professional sport. Some teams more than others I can grant you that. I was referring to the gay/black/personal jokes you mentioned...as if demeaning comments and unclassy posts are not used in a Jets forum(or any other forum for that matter). That comment you made about Dolfans being collectively classless was just that...classless.
MikeJonesCitrusC ounty

Bradenton, FL

#159 Jun 9, 2007
Greg wrote:
Mikey, will you please Fedex me some of the drugs you're taking, because they are working wonders for you. Why don't you take a few moments and convince your fellow Dolfans that the Dolphins will go 10-6 this season, then get back to me...
LOL.... I'll be off winning the lottery because I say that's what will happen...based on no facts...just dreams...sound familiar?
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Greggy likes to talk facts...
Fact 1--Jets went 4-12 in 2005
Fact 2--Jets hire new coach in 2006, get a smart QB back from injury, draft some good players and go 10-6.
Fact 3--Miami Dolphins went 6-10 in 2006.
Fact 4--With freaking Joey Harrington and one legged Daunte.
Fact 5--Miami hires new coach, trade for a smart QB, draft some good players and Greg states there is NO WAY Miami can go 10-6 in 2007.
Fact 6--EVERY prognosticator and football magazine had the Jets struggling and Miami shining before last season....boy were they ALL wrong big time!!
Fact 7--Those same people/publications stating this offseason Jets should build on their momentum from previous year(sound familiar?) and Miami will struggle under new regime for awhile.
Fact 8--Greg is so anti Dolphin he cannot let Dolfans talk amongst themselves about our team without telling us how bad our team is and how much he knows about football
Fact 9--Greg will NEVER admit Miami's defense is superior than New Yorks and if the combination of Cameron, Trent Green, Lorenzo Booker, Ted Ginn, and a few young lineman stepping up can allow Miami to score more points than last years squad....possible turning some of those close defeats to W's.
Fact 10--This is between Greg and I....Greg likes to say I dont do my research...I told him Thomas Jones was not a top 12 back in the NFL and he proceeded to ask if Ronnie Brown is...lol....I think the man truly believe Jones is superior than Brown..anyway, accd to Pro Football Weekly Brown is rated #8 overall among running backs. Thomas Jones..wait a minute, I will find him...ah yes he is...#18. They do say nice things about Jones in PFW..they mention his sculpted arms...if only that can help Chad Pennington throw harder.

You're right Greg....it is fun to share and argue with facts!!
patsfan

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#162 Jun 9, 2007
Come on Jets fans and phins fans, can't we all just get along? We all know the pats own the afc east!
MikeJonesCitrusC ounty

Bradenton, FL

#163 Jun 9, 2007
Greg wrote:
To your other so-called facts. Fact #9...Miami's defense is getting OLD.. The Jets are young. Let's see what happens to your old defense in the Miami sun with all of the three and outs you're gonna have. That should be fun. Also, what team in the NFL can't say "if your players and team play well we'll win more games" So what's your point? Keep in mind that you won MANY close games last year... It's not like you crushed all teams and your losses were by 3 points. BE REAL.
To your Brown comment, I'm honest enough to admit that I don't know where Brown is ranked, and of course Jones was ranked low...Look at the Bears offense and how much he played. Did I say Jones was superior? You see you need to lie in order to prove a point. I use facts when I know them, and never make up stuff like you...Mikey. By the way, I wonder why everyone has said that the Jets trade for Jones was one of the steals of the off-season
But by the way, Ronnie Brown in the last 2 seasons ran for 907 yards in 2005 and 1008 yards in 2006. A total of 1915 yards in 2 seasons. Thomas Jones ran for 1335 yards in 2005 and 1210 yards in 2006. That's a total of 2565 yards. He ran for 650 more yards than Brown. So I have no idea why the rankings are so different. But those are facts you can't deny.
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Now I am a liar and I am making stuff up...nice Greg...reaching again because you lost and arguement..dont cry because the facts(and the truth) hurt....you're a joke dude!
MikeJonesCitrusC ounty

Bradenton, FL

#166 Jun 9, 2007
Greg wrote:
That's the ony thing you can comment on from my entire post?!??!? Yep YOU are making stuff up...show me all of those articles you refer to or you are a liar. You my friend are the Joke. Gee every paper in the nation has called you a fool...That's right I read it myself!!!! LOL Get with it Mikey...there's still time.
LOL LOL Now you say I've lost an argument? You've lost your mind! Care to try again?
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Greg, my lord, you a freaking jacka.s.s. I knew what I was talking about, but just to make sure I remembered correctly(about the Jets being picked to struggle under the new coach last offseason) I went back and checked. I am literally looking at 2006 editions of 3 NFL preview magazines and I quote:

Athlon Sports--predicted finish in AFC East of 3rd ahead of only Buffalo.
Street and Smiths--Projected division finish of 4'th...headline reading "boy wonder or blunder" speaking about Mangini
Lindys----Projected finish of 4'th in division--headline reads "Too many questions keep Jets from soaring.

Greg, give it up. I dont make this stuff up..nor am I a liar. If you would like, I can send you these 2006 editions of these magazines sitting in my home office...just to prove you wrong again. And these are just three examples of the Jets being picked to struggle under the new coach last offseason...I know for a fact there were more. Proves again my point that these "experts" dont always get it right(seeing that the Jets went 10-6) and Miami could in fact do the exact thing this season. LOL LOL...am I still losing Greggy?? Do I still have time?? Oh please Greggy, please tell me I still have time to prove I know what I am talking about...please!!! You my friend are the joke....and trust me, I am not the only one that frequents these forums that is aware of that fact. But I am sure you will have a downright BRILLIANT retort. I am sure of it!
MikeJonesCitrusC ounty

Bradenton, FL

#167 Jun 9, 2007
Greg wrote:
As far as the liar label is concerned...when you say some has said something and they have not...That's called a lie...I never said Jones was superior to Brown...if so, PROVE ME GUILTY!......yup thought so.
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You said Brown was not a top 12 back. However he is widely considered top 10. Bottom line. And all I said was I think Greg thinks that Jones is better...I never said you said that. So quit twisting s.h.i.t. like you always do and quit LYING!!!!!!
MikeJonesCitrusC ounty

Bradenton, FL

#170 Jun 10, 2007
Greg wrote:
Problem with your facts, is fact 2 Not only did they get the QB back, but they got their whole team back...
The 4-12 Jets were mosly third string players since their entire defense and offense were hurt. They lost all of their QBs and had to call Vinny out of retirement. Remember they lost Pennington and Fieldler in the same game? They lost Curtis Martin, they lost their entire O-line, they lost their entire defensive line with the exception of Abraham. They lost their secondary.
When they got their ENTIRE team back in 2006 they were a playoff team. However they were using a committee of running backs. Their situation does not come close to the Dolphins situation. They got their veterans back and mixed them with 2 new o-linemen.
The Dolphins are looking at a rookie Oline, and an old QB.
Nobody had predicted the Jets struggling last year. As a matter of fact before 2005 started, they were called a playoff team. The the injuries set in. ONCE again MIKEY get your facts straight.
Show me one article that aid the Jets were going to be bad last year... Just ONE...Since you state "EVERY prognosticator and football magazine had the Jets struggling"...I'm only asking for one. But you are right about the Dolphins, everyone had them as Superbowl contenders. Guess they fooled everyone.
With your logic, every lousy team with a losing record only needs to use their draft picksthe following year wisely and they will be a playoff team. It doesn't work that way.
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Greg, the bottom line was(and I just proved it) I had my facts straight all along...many picked the Jets to struggle last year...you showed how much you truly know about football and your Jets by making the statement that "nobody picked the Jets to struggle". Unless you knew all along and underestimated my knowledge. Miami is picked to struggle this year...but so was New Orleans and your Jets last year with their new coaches...all I am trying to say!
Greg

Miami, FL

#171 Jun 11, 2007
You DID not have your facts straight...Many also picked the Jets to do well if their team was healthy again. I can't help the fact that the articles you refer to said differently. All around the Jets camp and in the papers (which in NY are TOO HONEST) They said "If Pennington is healthy, the Jets will contend for the playoffs". If "Pennington is not healthy, the Jets may end up in the bottom of the division." But NOBODY I saw picked the Jets to struggle. Again, how many of your magazines picked the Dolphins to go far in the AFC? Hmmmm. That speaks to their credibility, doesn't it? How many of those magazines ripped the Dolphins for passing on Quinn?...How many Dolfans have said that magazines and their writers "KNOW NOTHING"?
Also, I never argued about Brown being in the Top 12. If you go back a few posts, I honestly asked if he was...because I never hear that before. You see Mikey, that's what honesty is.

The difference between this years dolphins versus last year's Jets and Saints is that the Dolphins DO NOT have the talented players this season, which the Jets and Sainst did last season. Do you think based on your "facts" that because you hire a new coach, and draft some new players, that you'll be successful, just because it happened to other teams?

Lastly, I'd be interested in hearing your reasoning as to why you think Thomas Jones is not as good brown based on the stats I gave you.
MikeJonesCitrusCounty wrote:
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Greg, the bottom line was(and I just proved it) I had my facts straight all along...many picked the Jets to struggle last year...you showed how much you truly know about football and your Jets by making the statement that "nobody picked the Jets to struggle". Unless you knew all along and underestimated my knowledge. Miami is picked to struggle this year...but so was New Orleans and your Jets last year with their new coaches...all I am trying to say!
MikeJonesCitrusC ounty

Bradenton, FL

#172 Jun 11, 2007
Greg wrote:
You DID not have your facts straight...Many also picked the Jets to do well if their team was healthy again. I can't help the fact that the articles you refer to said differently. All around the Jets camp and in the papers (which in NY are TOO HONEST) They said "If Pennington is healthy, the Jets will contend for the playoffs". If "Pennington is not healthy, the Jets may end up in the bottom of the division." But NOBODY I saw picked the Jets to struggle. Again, how many of your magazines picked the Dolphins to go far in the AFC? Hmmmm. That speaks to their credibility, doesn't it? How many of those magazines ripped the Dolphins for passing on Quinn?...How many Dolfans have said that magazines and their writers "KNOW NOTHING"?
Also, I never argued about Brown being in the Top 12. If you go back a few posts, I honestly asked if he was...because I never hear that before. You see Mikey, that's what honesty is.
The difference between this years dolphins versus last year's Jets and Saints is that the Dolphins DO NOT have the talented players this season, which the Jets and Sainst did last season. Do you think based on your "facts" that because you hire a new coach, and draft some new players, that you'll be successful, just because it happened to other teams?
Lastly, I'd be interested in hearing your reasoning as to why you think Thomas Jones is not as good brown based on the stats I gave you.
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I have only said it is a possibility Miami can rebound like those teams did last year..it is possible...you keep saying Miami has no talent and cannot do it..I happen to sharply disagree. I am not guaranteeing anything except this...Miami will be better than 6-10 and the offense will be more exciting to watch this season. Forget players...I believe this is true just by the simple fact we are going from Mike Mularkey to Cam Cameron's offense...that alone should help WONDERS! Mularkey is a mutt....
Greg

Hollywood, FL

#173 Jun 13, 2007
Right...ANYTHING possible. After all I may also win the lottery tonight because someone won it last week with a Dollar. Unfortunately, I STILL do not see the talent that you see on the Dolphins. The Dolphins released or traded away their "talent". These young kids may not amount to anything. EVERY TEAM, EVERY year drafts the best players from college football. Are they all superstars? Actually a small minority become great. Here's a clue for you...Ginn is not Bush...Beck will not be Marino.

As far as your so-called new offensive coordinator. He's already bitten off more than he can chew as Coach and OC. He's not doing a very good job at the helm so far..is he? The season hasn't started and the fans and media are ripping him...You're ripping him yourself forthe Culpepper handling. I didn't see this stuff going on in Jets camp last year nor in New orleans...Did you? Prediction....The Dolphins will be 6-10 this season.
MikeJonesCitrusCounty wrote:
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I have only said it is a possibility Miami can rebound like those teams did last year..it is possible...you keep saying Miami has no talent and cannot do it..I happen to sharply disagree. I am not guaranteeing anything except this...Miami will be better than 6-10 and the offense will be more exciting to watch this season. Forget players...I believe this is true just by the simple fact we are going from Mike Mularkey to Cam Cameron's offense...that alone should help WONDERS! Mularkey is a mutt....
MikeJonesCitrusC ounty

Bradenton, FL

#174 Jun 13, 2007
Greg wrote:
Right...ANYTHING possible. After all I may also win the lottery tonight because someone won it last week with a Dollar. Unfortunately, I STILL do not see the talent that you see on the Dolphins. The Dolphins released or traded away their "talent". These young kids may not amount to anything. EVERY TEAM, EVERY year drafts the best players from college football. Are they all superstars? Actually a small minority become great. Here's a clue for you...Ginn is not Bush...Beck will not be Marino.
As far as your so-called new offensive coordinator. He's already bitten off more than he can chew as Coach and OC. He's not doing a very good job at the helm so far..is he? The season hasn't started and the fans and media are ripping him...You're ripping him yourself forthe Culpepper handling. I didn't see this stuff going on in Jets camp last year nor in New orleans...Did you? Prediction....The Dolphins will be 6-10 this season.
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Whatever Chris Berman....we released and traded our talent..right. McMichael and Mare made us so much better?? How many playoff games have we won since they have been there? They needed to go along with the linemen that were let go...fresh hungry faces make it an exciting new season no matter how you twist it...you're a jets fan, naturally your views and opinions are going to be pessimistic. Here, I can do it too..Prediction: Chad Pennington blows out his shoulder again and Thomas Jones tries to run over his pregnant wife again and gets suspended and the Jets finish 4-12...see its pretty easy when you hate the team your discussing. However its not neccessarily reality.
MikeJonesCitrusC ounty

Bradenton, FL

#175 Jun 13, 2007
Greg wrote:
Yep you're still losing...All this info was out there because nobody knew if Pennington would return healthy. Had he not been back, the Jets would not have been 10-6. The would have been 6-10 at most.
So tell me ole wise one...what did all of those magazines say about the Dolphins passing on Quinn and taking Ginn? Yeah...I thought so. Of course in that case they are all idiots...right?
And please refrain from name calling...it really makes you look stupid.
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Nah, I didnt lose...not even close. Actually you're remark about them being idiots helped my arguement. This entire conversation I have been saying that these "experts" that ALL had the Jets struggling were way off last year. All three sources were off...they pick Miami to struggle this year...they could be off again. And for anyone to say it was a mistake to take the combination of Ginn and Beck over Quinn and a second tier reciever is moronic and strictly guessing at this point...none of them have played a down yet. You were wrong when you used the statement NO ONE picked the Jets to struggle last season...I staring right at 3 groups that did.
MikeJonesCitrusC ounty

Bradenton, FL

#176 Jun 13, 2007
Greg wrote:
Right...ANYTHING possible. After all I may also win the lottery tonight because someone won it last week with a Dollar. Unfortunately, I STILL do not see the talent that you see on the Dolphins. The Dolphins released or traded away their "talent". These young kids may not amount to anything. EVERY TEAM, EVERY year drafts the best players from college football. Are they all superstars? Actually a small minority become great. Here's a clue for you...Ginn is not Bush...Beck will not be Marino.
As far as your so-called new offensive coordinator. He's already bitten off more than he can chew as Coach and OC. He's not doing a very good job at the helm so far..is he? The season hasn't started and the fans and media are ripping him...You're ripping him yourself forthe Culpepper handling. I didn't see this stuff going on in Jets camp last year nor in New orleans...Did you? Prediction....The Dolphins will be 6-10 this season.
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Anything is possible...Greg may start acting like a mature adult and quit bashing the Dolphins in their own newspaper forums for fun. I never said Ginn would be Bush or Beck would be Marino...nor do I believe they have to be as great as those players...they just need to be upgrades from what we had and be good players. And they will. And as far as your constant "more than he can chew comment" what brings you to that conclusion? The fact that he is going to call the plays on gameday?? Oh right, that is simply impossible to expect him to be able to handle. He has enough offensive coaches to help implement the weekly game plan....he just has to call the plays...many coaches do it..and many coaches have done it in their first head coach jobs...Gruden, Reid, Billick, Shanahan, etc. He wont have to worry about the defense as we have one of the top D coordinators in the game....like I said before he is compensated very well and will be expected to handle that job without much input from Cameron. Yes the Daunte thing is messy...but to blame Cameron solely for that would be foolish...Daunte himself and Mueller have a hand in this also..but I hardly find the drama with this is going to affect the play on the field come September. And as far as the Jets fixing their "only" defensive problem by drafting Revis, well heres a clue...he isn't Ty Law or Darrell Green...see, I can make outlandish comments/prognosications like you can! He played for Dave Douchstadt at Pitt...so can we conclude that he is not prepared for the NFL game and will struggle? Rookie corner going to fix all that ails ya? And to your previous ill-advised and uneducated comment that Miami's defense is "old"....if you knew what you were talking about you would know that the average age of Miami's expected starting 11 on defense is 28.8...the Jets expected starting 11(accd to foxsports.com ) is 27.3. Big discrepancy there huh Greg? So if Miami's defense is old the Jets defense must be too?? Not to mention our average age is brought up because of Keith Traylor who is only a 2 down player....
MikeJonesCitrusC ounty

Bradenton, FL

#177 Jun 13, 2007
Greg wrote:
Right...ANYTHING possible. After all I may also win the lottery tonight because someone won it last week with a Dollar. Unfortunately, I STILL do not see the talent that you see on the Dolphins. The Dolphins released or traded away their "talent". These young kids may not amount to anything. EVERY TEAM, EVERY year drafts the best players from college football. Are they all superstars? Actually a small minority become great. Here's a clue for you...Ginn is not Bush...Beck will not be Marino.
As far as your so-called new offensive coordinator. He's already bitten off more than he can chew as Coach and OC. He's not doing a very good job at the helm so far..is he? The season hasn't started and the fans and media are ripping him...You're ripping him yourself forthe Culpepper handling. I didn't see this stuff going on in Jets camp last year nor in New orleans...Did you? Prediction....The Dolphins will be 6-10 this season.
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Greg you simply cannot and will not beat me...I am a freaking computer when it comes to this stuff. Quit while you still have what little dignity a Jets fan has to begin with...which simply cannot be much since your star QB throws as hard as Suzy Colber, your savior at running back has tried to run over his pregnant wife with his vehicle, and your coach has ties to the mob(little sopranos joke in there for ya!) And no pot-head Ricky jokes allowed...we both know he is no longer a Miami Dolphin...technically speaking. He wont play another down in that uniform....
pua

San Diego, CA

#178 Jul 29, 2007
They are Samoan rookies, they are good too, & I am sure they can go against anybody, they are happy to be in Miami Dolphins, I am sure they will be very good for the team, because they are not even scared of anything, they are over there, to give their best and faithful to the miami dolphins,the samoans are very brave, they like the challenge, they have respect for every body, but when you go against them on the field that is a diffrent story, they handle their business on the field, they dont go against their own team but against their challenge, please be their friend, & we are going to the super bowl this year 2007 & good luck to the miami dolphin....Lets go miami.

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