SHELBURNE: USC's Carroll, UCLA's Neuh...

SHELBURNE: USC's Carroll, UCLA's Neuheisel shouldn't regret calls

There are 42 comments on the LA Daily News story from Dec 1, 2009, titled SHELBURNE: USC's Carroll, UCLA's Neuheisel shouldn't regret calls. In it, LA Daily News reports that:

We always want an explanation, something on camera, on the record, that forever can be the sound byte for an incident like what happened in the final frenetic minute of USC's 28-7 victory against UCLA on Saturday at the Coliseum.

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Mary

Santa Barbara, CA

#21 Dec 1, 2009
I agree. As a UCLA alum, Neuheisel has been a complete bust. Karl Dorrel had a better record after two seasons. DUMP NEUHEISEL!
xyz1

Temecula, CA

#22 Dec 1, 2009
remember the words of rodney king..."why can't we all get along here?"
No Whining

United States

#23 Dec 1, 2009
I attended UCLA after 4 yrs in the Navy. I have been a Bruin fan for over 40 years. I hate to see UCLA lose to USC, but this was football. Without the 5 turnovers and anemic offense, UCLA could have been in the game. As far as the last USC touchdown, that's the breaks. Neuheisel was never one of my favorites as a player, and I lived in Seattle during his ill-fated stay at UofW and liked him less then. Calling for a new head coach now though, seems counter-productive. New offensive coach? Absolutely!

Since: Jun 09

San Fernando Valley

#24 Dec 2, 2009
No Whining wrote:
I attended UCLA after 4 yrs in the Navy. I have been a Bruin fan for over 40 years. I hate to see UCLA lose to USC, but this was football. Without the 5 turnovers and anemic offense, UCLA could have been in the game. As far as the last USC touchdown, that's the breaks. Neuheisel was never one of my favorites as a player, and I lived in Seattle during his ill-fated stay at UofW and liked him less then. Calling for a new head coach now though, seems counter-productive. New offensive coach? Absolutely!
Agreed! And as far as Dorrell doing a better job, I was not a big fan of his recruiting. We can say what we want about Neuheisel as a coach, but he already has arguably the best running back on the West Coast coming to the Bruins next year and his recruitment so far has been something even Ben Howland would be envious of (hence the current crop of hoops players we have in Westwood).
El Quixotian

Orange Park, FL

#25 Dec 2, 2009
Brew In wrote:
<quoted text> Agreed! And as far as Dorrell doing a better job, I was not a big fan of his recruiting. We can say what we want about Neuheisel as a coach, but he already has arguably the best running back on the West Coast coming to the Bruins next year and his recruitment so far has been something even Ben Howland would be envious of (hence the current crop of hoops players we have in Westwood).
I agree about Neuheisel staying, and not for selfish reasons, like some Trojans wanting Weis to stay around ND.

I think it was a ballsy choice to hire him; he's a goledn boy come home, and they should have brought him in earlier. I think he's more in touch with the Donahue era, and with his success at Colorado, he may be able to kick it up a bit.

Stick with him, he'll do good.

As for Chow, I think it's too early to call for his head. There's still a learning curve for the QB's, and as long as Rick recruits well, Chow can get another birght pupil.

The only concern is keeping up with the times. Forget the BS about him not lasting in the Pro's, he's a genious...at West Coast. He was a pioneer, but now there are new kids on the block...with the Spread. If that isn't just a 'passing' fad, all the BCS leagues are going to need to update.

Clearly, that's going to mean both our team need Defensive Coordinators who know how to beat the spread...Pete's schemes don't work with the Oregons, and the BSU's, and the TCU's. My biggest gripe is that he gave up on them, becasue they WOULD have worked against Stanford....
University of CLAssless

United States

#26 Dec 2, 2009
Looky here. All of you ucla people love throwing stones from your glass house. UCLA forward Nikola Dragovic was arrested and suspended for BEATING HIS GIRLFRIEND. Nice. That is golden. Its nice to call USC classless, but look here - those glass walls really shatter easy from those stone you throw.

Brew In - lets see you explain tis away.
El Quixotian

United States

#27 Dec 2, 2009
University of CLAssless wrote:
Looky here. All of you ucla people love throwing stones from your glass house. UCLA forward Nikola Dragovic was arrested and suspended for BEATING HIS GIRLFRIEND. Nice. That is golden. Its nice to call USC classless, but look here - those glass walls really shatter easy from those stone you throw.
Brew In - lets see you explain tis away.
Oh come on, we were just starting to make nice on this thread....
san antonio texas

San Antonio, TX

#28 Dec 2, 2009
that is why we dislike smittey rick such a weasel
cgcarver

Fullerton, CA

#29 Dec 3, 2009
Do you think, should USC win their bowl game, that they will flip-off their opponent, the fans in the stadium and the TV audience? I do! It's what they do and that's who they are!
El Quixotian

Orange Park, FL

#30 Dec 3, 2009
cgcarver wrote:
Do you think, should USC win their bowl game, that they will flip-off their opponent, the fans in the stadium and the TV audience? I do! It's what they do and that's who they are!
Goll Darn kids jumpin' up and down, sticking their tounges out at the poor defensliess...er, offenseless bruins coming across the field to congratulation them for a good coup de gras.

Knock it off you brats, we UCLA fans are trying to get some sleep!

Since: Dec 09

Encinitas, CA

#31 Dec 3, 2009
No Whining wrote:
I attended UCLA after 4 yrs in the Navy. I have been a Bruin fan for over 40 years. I hate to see UCLA lose to USC, but this was football. Without the 5 turnovers and anemic offense, UCLA could have been in the game. As far as the last USC touchdown, that's the breaks. Neuheisel was never one of my favorites as a player, and I lived in Seattle during his ill-fated stay at UofW and liked him less then. Calling for a new head coach now though, seems counter-productive. New offensive coach? Absolutely!
The most well-balance post I've read in a while.

Let's remember that well into the 4th quarter, we were only down 14-7, with the ball. If not for what turned out to be a much more serious injury (separated shoulder) than thought, we were a pass away from tying it up (i.e. Prince's int). Throw in the bogus call when Rosario was called for a drop on third down, and it's an entirely different ballgame.
IRISH IKE

Lakewood, CA

#32 Dec 3, 2009
Take you head out of the sand. UCLA would give anything to have a program like USC. Look at Nuhiesel's record. He is all talk. You should have known exactly what you were getting with him. I watched the game in question and UCla got what the asked for. Tricky Rick will never out coach Pete Carroll. At least you have basketball. What are you going to do if SC beat you at basketball, rush the floor. Stop your whinnig.
IRISH IKE

Lakewood, CA

#33 Dec 3, 2009
At least ucla wins in women sports.. Look at the 100 championships they brag about. Gymnastics anyone? Anyone sick of the way the prostitute John Wooden?
Forrest Gump

Los Angeles, CA

#34 Dec 3, 2009
If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas. Run Craft Run!

Since: Jun 09

San Fernando Valley

#35 Dec 3, 2009
El Quixotian wrote:
<quoted text>
I agree about Neuheisel staying, and not for selfish reasons, like some Trojans wanting Weis to stay around ND.
I think it was a ballsy choice to hire him; he's a goledn boy come home, and they should have brought him in earlier. I think he's more in touch with the Donahue era, and with his success at Colorado, he may be able to kick it up a bit.
Stick with him, he'll do good.
As for Chow, I think it's too early to call for his head. There's still a learning curve for the QB's, and as long as Rick recruits well, Chow can get another birght pupil.
The only concern is keeping up with the times. Forget the BS about him not lasting in the Pro's, he's a genious...at West Coast. He was a pioneer, but now there are new kids on the block...with the Spread. If that isn't just a 'passing' fad, all the BCS leagues are going to need to update.
Clearly, that's going to mean both our team need Defensive Coordinators who know how to beat the spread...Pete's schemes don't work with the Oregons, and the BSU's, and the TCU's. My biggest gripe is that he gave up on them, becasue they WOULD have worked against Stanford....
All good points and well said!

Since: Jun 09

San Fernando Valley

#36 Dec 3, 2009
University of CLAssless wrote:
Looky here. All of you ucla people love throwing stones from your glass house. UCLA forward Nikola Dragovic was arrested and suspended for BEATING HIS GIRLFRIEND. Nice. That is golden. Its nice to call USC classless, but look here - those glass walls really shatter easy from those stone you throw.
Brew In - lets see you explain tis away.
No explaining away here pal. I do not have the time nor want to, but if you made me I could come up with at least a 3 to 1 ratio meaning 3 trouble with authority SC thugs per one Bruin!

And BTW, the double murderer alone should count as at least 20 to 1.

Since: Jun 09

San Fernando Valley

#37 Dec 3, 2009
IRISH IKE wrote:
Take you head out of the sand. UCLA would give anything to have a program like USC. Look at Nuhiesel's record. He is all talk. You should have known exactly what you were getting with him. I watched the game in question and UCla got what the asked for. Tricky Rick will never out coach Pete Carroll. At least you have basketball. What are you going to do if SC beat you at basketball, rush the floor. Stop your whinnig.
Irish Mike, you may not want to attend those games because unfortunately this could be a year where both our hoop teams are so bad that the fans may want to rush the floor just to beat on the players and coaches from both sides...
El Quixotian

Orange Park, FL

#38 Dec 3, 2009
Brew In wrote:
<quoted text>Irish Mike, you may not want to attend those games because unfortunately this could be a year where both our hoop teams are so bad that the fans may want to rush the floor just to beat on the players and coaches from both sides...
Very Funny, Very!

But in our defense, we did beat Coppin *State, and almost hung a 50 on Nebraska (2 pointer failed)

*Not sure which state?
NeedlessDebate

San Diego, CA

#39 Jan 21, 2010
El Quixotian wrote:
<quoted text>
Very Funny, Very!
But in our defense, we did beat Coppin *State, and almost hung a 50 on Nebraska (2 pointer failed)
*Not sure which state?
And let the record shows that this year we trounced UCLA in Basketball at Pauley as well.

“USC=Greatest team of BCS era!”

Since: Aug 08

Burn, baby, burn!

#40 Jan 22, 2010
Encinitas Bruin wrote:
I don't understand how so often these posts turn into an academic ranking spitting contest.
Talk to your fellow Bruin fans about that one, since they are the ones that are always bringing it up, in spite of the evidence to the contrary that I've posted in the past.

Otherwise, I completely agree with you. I have a little "hypothesis" that I've been "working" on over the past year and a half on here: I believe that one's fervor/fanaticism for a college team is in inverse proportion to your association with the college. For example, let's say "John Doe" is a huge UCLA fan, so much so that "he" has alienated friends and family over the slightest hint of disagreement with "his" idolization of the school's athletic teams and takes every opportunity to insult USC alumni and fans, regardless of the situation. If my hypothesis holds true, it is very likely "John Doe" never attended the school. My experience here has shown me that to be very likely. It has also shown me that the alumni of one school oftentimes have a lot of respect for the alumni of the other school, and your posts seem to prove that as well. It doesn't always hold true, but more often than not, the loudest/brashest/most offensive commenter has no direct affiliation with the school other than making purchases at the bookstore and their season tickets. What do you think?

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