Commentary: Carroll and Neuheisel can...

Commentary: Carroll and Neuheisel can share blame for Saturday'...

There are 14 comments on the Daily Breeze story from Dec 2, 2009, titled Commentary: Carroll and Neuheisel can share blame for Saturday'.... In it, Daily Breeze reports that:

My first reaction to the Rick Neuheisel-Pete Carroll UCLA-USC dust-up was to groan about two grown men acting like petulant children.

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O C Observer

Long Beach, CA

#1 Dec 2, 2009
Here's one more simplistic, inaccurate view of what happened. ANY coach, I repeat ANY coach (including Pete Carroll) would call a time out who is down by 14 points with 45 seconds on the clock and 3 time outs to use. The fact that carroll has his QB take a knee only signifies that Pete Carroll thinks it's over. Pete Carroll needs to figure out when to take a knee and when to run a play.
I M Me

Torrance, CA

#2 Dec 2, 2009
The writer is obviously a bruin. Carroll was not pointing at the bruin sideline, he was pointing at Barkley as if to say "Great job (in executing the play perfectly)." And it was the bruins who left the sideline en masse. They showed a huge lack of class. Get over it bruins. You want tp play, the Trojans will play.
Hmmm

Redmond, WA

#3 Dec 2, 2009
Pete would not have called for the deep pass if ucla had not called the time out. Once ucla attempted to extend the game, USC answered with a big play. Regardless of their respective places in the standings, this game has always been a fierce rivalary, with lots of emotion. ucla just needed to control theirs a little better and stay on their side of the field. ucla has no defense anyway. They can't even defend their bear on campus.
football fan

Redondo Beach, CA

#4 Dec 2, 2009
Neuheisel DID start it by calling timeout. Had Neuheisel not called timeout, USC would have taken 2 more knees and game over.

By calling timeout, he forced Carroll into picking other plays on the remaining 3 downs. His coaches knew the Bruins would be looking for a short yardage play to get a first down -- so they called a deep pass. It worked.

And it still didn't end the game. Down 21 points with less 30 seconds, Neuheisel called a timeout. It made me wonder if Neuheisel wasn't playing to the Las Vegas odds makers. You know, trying to cut the point spread.

BTW, don't yell at me for the above. Just recall why Neuheisel left U of W. If you need help, the wikipedia says it all.
James Dee

Howe, OK

#5 Dec 2, 2009
If you take a knee, you expect the opposition to say "uncle". If they don't, you pour it on.
O C Observer

Cerritos, CA

#6 Dec 2, 2009
James Dee wrote:
If you take a knee, you expect the opposition to say "uncle". If they don't, you pour it on.
Your probably more used to taking both knees and yelling for uncle
James Dee

Howe, OK

#7 Dec 3, 2009
O C Observer wrote:
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Your probably more used to taking both knees and yelling for uncle
I'll ignore you feeble attempt to insult me, although I really don't know what prompted it. Is it because you are a UCLA fan, or just because you are from California, the land of nuts and flakes?

The point is, it is about winning. When Neuheisel called time out, he was saying "I'm still going to try and win this game".

Carroll was then more than justified to put the ball in the end zone, essentially saying, "I'm not going to let that happen".
Concerned Citizen

Sandy, TX

#8 Dec 3, 2009
Just another _lame_ article on this topic.

BOTH coaches made the right call.

'Nuff said.
R U Serious

Cerritos, CA

#9 Dec 3, 2009
James Dee wrote:
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I'll ignore you feeble attempt to insult me, although I really don't know what prompted it. Is it because you are a UCLA fan, or just because you are from California, the land of nuts and flakes?
The point is, it is about winning. When Neuheisel called time out, he was saying "I'm still going to try and win this game".
Carroll was then more than justified to put the ball in the end zone, essentially saying, "I'm not going to let that happen".
"californis the land of nuts and flakes"? With hands cupped around mouth and yelling...."YOUR FROM OKLAHOMA"!!!!.....hello
James Dee

Howe, OK

#10 Dec 4, 2009
R U Serious wrote:
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"californis the land of nuts and flakes"? With hands cupped around mouth and yelling...."YOUR FROM OKLAHOMA"!!!!.....hello
Oklahoma = God's country.

Never have to lock your doors. Never have to worry about being carjacked. Neighbors help neighbors. Cost of living is low. You can walk down the street a midnight with no worries. No earthquakes. No forest fires. No drought. No smog. You can step outside and see the stars at night. No homeless degenerates.

We do have Crips and Bloods, but there are only about 15 members, so they are out numbered, and only mess with each other.

You should try it, it's a great place to live.

On second thought, stay where you are, we don't need any nuts or flakes.
El Quixotian

United States

#11 Dec 4, 2009
James Dee wrote:
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Oklahoma = God's country.
Never have to lock your doors. Never have to worry about being carjacked. Neighbors help neighbors. Cost of living is low. You can walk down the street a midnight with no worries. No earthquakes. No forest fires. No drought. No smog. You can step outside and see the stars at night. No homeless degenerates.
We do have Crips and Bloods, but there are only about 15 members, so they are out numbered, and only mess with each other.
You should try it, it's a great place to live.
On second thought, stay where you are, we don't need any nuts or flakes.
(James must not visit Tulsa much)

It's not the gangsters we'd be worried about, it's the yahoo's at Waffle House at 3:00 am after the honky tonks close.
Andy

Los Angeles, CA

#12 Dec 4, 2009
This has got to be one of the worst articles I've ever read. Literally, completely not surprised this guy writes for the Daily Breeze...actually, I am, this guy belongs relegated to a personal blog where he can spew his pointly dribble.

What if there was a fight? "What if the brawl spilled over to the stands and then into the parking lots?" Wow, I never thought of that. And then what if from there it spilled into the streets around the Colliseum? And then what if the entire City of Los Angeles erupted into a riot? And then what if riot spilled on to the freeways and San Diego and San Francisco got involved? And then what if Arizona started rioting with California? And then what if enough states got involved that a Civil War was declared?

Wow, until I read this article, I hadn't realized how close to the brink we were.
James Dee

Howe, OK

#13 Dec 4, 2009
El Quixotian wrote:
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(James must not visit Tulsa much)
It's not the gangsters we'd be worried about, it's the yahoo's at Waffle House at 3:00 am after the honky tonks close.
I go to Tulsa all the time. Safest city in the world. Waffle House at 3:00am is like a little piece of heaven.
El Quixotian

United States

#14 Dec 4, 2009
James Dee wrote:
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I go to Tulsa all the time. Safest city in the world. Waffle House at 3:00am is like a little piece of heaven.
Well, let's hope that changed on both sides of the tracks since when my white buddy was high stepping to get along with his bandmates at Booker T Washington. But by most standards, Simi Valley and Irvine actually have statistics to trade off boasting as being the safest cities.

I didn't mind Waffle House so much, but when I and another Trojan bandmate stopped by when we were staying in Oklahoma City after our shutout of OU in 1982, wearing OP Shorts(Ocean Pacific), carrying a frisbee, and paying with cash out of a nylon/velcro wallet, we got some stares from the locals...and a good natured 'hush' from the waitress who misunderstood my order.

Otherwise, we kinda enjoyed the trip, but I have a couple of other stories if you don't mind a bit of banter, shoot!

My Father-in-law's from Holdenville, so it's all good.

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