2011 NFL Lockout: Who's to Blame? Who...

2011 NFL Lockout: Who's to Blame? Who Cares! Who Suffers? Just the Fans

There are 20 comments on the Bleacher Report story from Mar 12, 2011, titled 2011 NFL Lockout: Who's to Blame? Who Cares! Who Suffers? Just the Fans. In it, Bleacher Report reports that:

In case you are still not sober, following the Packers Super Bowl victory on February 6 , let me give you an update on what has occurred in the past month: the NFL players and owners didn't reach an agreement.

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WhoGivesARatsBut t

University Of Richmond, VA

#1 Mar 14, 2011
They are ALL over paid, over idolized, over greedy btards. I am simply over it and hope you are too. I am over having to take out a mortgage to take a kid to a ball game. I am over paying 5 times as much as something is worth at the game and I am waaaay tired of the inane way they hype these games as though each one is earth shaking in it's importance. As if each player is some kind of warrior struggling against immeasurable odds.
ALL of our PROFESSIONAL sports have become PROFESSIONAL Wrestling to me. The attitudes, the personalities. Where is the sport in all that? We watch hockey for the fights, we watch football for the Terrell Owens tantrums and we watch NASCAR for the wrecks.
I have a thought... Let's quit watching, revenue will fall, and the greedy btards that have stolen our sports (basketball, football, baseball...) will move on to ruining something else.
I hope there is no NFL season. I hope there is no NBA or Baseball season. Instead of watching, lets take the kids out to a field and show them what sports used to be like. Teamwork, fun, exercise... Let's get out of the front of the TV and go play.
LOL

Bradenton, FL

#2 Mar 14, 2011
The 'it's not my fault, it's yours' game americans loooove tp play.

this is no surprise....

that good old american tradition of greed always kills everything.....

america was built on greed and is being destroyed by greed...
eric

Arpin, WI

#3 Mar 14, 2011
For fans it sucks,for the beer vendors,ticket collectors,consession workers and other folks working at the stadiums, its a set back as these folks will lose income while trying to support their families.
eric

Arpin, WI

#4 Mar 14, 2011
WhoGivesARatsButt wrote:
They are ALL over paid, over idolized, over greedy btards. I am simply over it and hope you are too. I am over having to take out a mortgage to take a kid to a ball game. I am over paying 5 times as much as something is worth at the game and I am waaaay tired of the inane way they hype these games as though each one is earth shaking in it's importance. As if each player is some kind of warrior struggling against immeasurable odds.
ALL of our PROFESSIONAL sports have become PROFESSIONAL Wrestling to me. The attitudes, the personalities. Where is the sport in all that? We watch hockey for the fights, we watch football for the Terrell Owens tantrums and we watch NASCAR for the wrecks.
I have a thought... Let's quit watching, revenue will fall, and the greedy btards that have stolen our sports (basketball, football, baseball...) will move on to ruining something else.
I hope there is no NFL season. I hope there is no NBA or Baseball season. Instead of watching, lets take the kids out to a field and show them what sports used to be like. Teamwork, fun, exercise... Let's get out of the front of the TV and go play.
Nicely written,Although they get paid a ton of money and it seems wrong they get paid more then almost everyone,Is a professional Sports personality over paid when there are folks wiling to pay the tix.prices to go see them? NO doubt money and greed has a neg.effect on sports and both side are at fault there and ultimately the fans pay the price.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#5 Mar 14, 2011
I care who is at fault. The collective bargaining agreements between the players and owners have created the greatest, most financially successful and most popular sport in the history of this country. The collective bargaining agreements and profit sharing have, up until now, created a relatively level playing field where small market teams like the Packers can win Championships.

The popularity and profitability of football is at an all time high. That isn't enough for the owners. So they opted out of the CBA and now they have locked out the players. The players have allowed the owners to maintain an anticompetitive advantage in the marketplace. Furthermore, the CBA allows the owners to engage in many anti-trust actions. Though illegal, the players have permitted these restraints on trade to the benefit of the owners. In particular, small market teams have benefited. The owners are now asking the players to give more, play more and take less. If that is truly needed at a time of record profits and popularity, the owners should have no problem with a thorough examination of financial records by an independent third party. If the owners have something to hide or simply don't want their records examined, that's okay. Simply stick to the existing system that was working great. If it's not broke, don't greedily claim it needs to be fixed. The owners clearly are at fault.
BJZ

Manitowoc, WI

#6 Mar 14, 2011
GBPfan wrote:
I care who is at fault. The collective bargaining agreements between the players and owners have created the greatest, most financially successful and most popular sport in the history of this country. The collective bargaining agreements and profit sharing have, up until now, created a relatively level playing field where small market teams like the Packers can win Championships.
The popularity and profitability of football is at an all time high. That isn't enough for the owners. So they opted out of the CBA and now they have locked out the players. The players have allowed the owners to maintain an anticompetitive advantage in the marketplace. Furthermore, the CBA allows the owners to engage in many anti-trust actions. Though illegal, the players have permitted these restraints on trade to the benefit of the owners. In particular, small market teams have benefited. The owners are now asking the players to give more, play more and take less. If that is truly needed at a time of record profits and popularity, the owners should have no problem with a thorough examination of financial records by an independent third party. If the owners have something to hide or simply don't want their records examined, that's okay. Simply stick to the existing system that was working great. If it's not broke, don't greedily claim it needs to be fixed. The owners clearly are at fault.
GIVE ME A BREAK! Collective bargining - just one more way the union is controlling our lives and making us pay the big bucks! Get a life .....
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#7 Mar 14, 2011
BJZ wrote:
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GIVE ME A BREAK! Collective bargining - just one more way the union is controlling our lives and making us pay the big bucks! Get a life .....
The unions are controlling your life? Give me a break you paranoid frightened little freak. Boo! After you clean the shat from your pants get back on your meds. Until they take effect I suggest you hide in your bomb shelter with that ridiculous tinfoil hat on your head.

BTW good luck getting the generous owners to cut ticket prices and give us our money back. You need to buy a dog and name it "Clue" because that is the only way you will ever get one.

Since: Dec 07

DuPage County

#8 Mar 15, 2011
Wow..you can tell who the union members are in this fight. So, who in the real world making real wages, not millions, has the idiocy to scream that the players or owners are right?

Give me a frakking break. I don't have room in my life to feel sorry about a bunch of whiny people making millions.

I love the NFL, but I have no problem turning it off and going on with my life.
clem

Hamilton, Canada

#9 Mar 15, 2011
eric wrote:
For fans it sucks,for the beer vendors,ticket collectors,consession workers and other folks working at the stadiums, its a set back as these folks will lose income while trying to support their families.
Yes real people will hurt financially while million and billion dollar babies will whine that enough is not enough.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#10 Mar 15, 2011
Saluki Rod wrote:
I love the NFL, but I have no problem turning it off and going on with my life.
Well then turn it off. I hope you have the choice this year.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#11 Mar 15, 2011
Saluki Rod wrote:
Wow..you can tell who the union members are in this fight.
You are right, I can tell but you can't. It's obvious that you aren't a union member. You are clearly one of those morons that only has the ability to see things from your own selfish, greedy and biased view. So how are you different from the people you are complaining about?

Since: Dec 07

DuPage County

#12 Mar 15, 2011
GBPfan wrote:
<quoted text>You are right, I can tell but you can't. It's obvious that you aren't a union member. You are clearly one of those morons that only has the ability to see things from your own selfish, greedy and biased view. So how are you different from the people you are complaining about?
You my friend can continue to pay your union dues to support organized crime, lazy workers, and other morons like yourself who can't keep a job without others assistance. Keep on sucking on that union teat idiot.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#13 Mar 15, 2011
Saluki Rod wrote:
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You my friend can continue to pay your union dues to support organized crime, lazy workers, and other morons like yourself who can't keep a job without others assistance. Keep on sucking on that union teat idiot.
Thanks for admitting I was right about you. As I said, you can't tell who is union and you are too stupid to think outside of your own biased views. I am a successful business owner. I've never been in a union and I never will be in a union. However, I'm capable of seeing beyond my own interests and experiences. You obviously are incapable of assessing facts objectively.

The NFL has become the most popular and successful sport in the history of this great nation. The NFL created that success under the existing system. If it isn't broke, the owners shouldn't greedily claim it needs to be fixed. The players are willing to play under the system that has been in place for many years. In fact, the first scheduled court hearing is an attempt by the players to force the owners to end the lockout. The players would then play under the existing contracts which the owners are refusing to honor. The OWNERS anounced their intention to opt out of the CBA years ago. The very first proposal they presented was one week after they started the lockout and with only a few hours remaining in an extension in negotiations. Does that sound like good faith negotiations to you? I imagine it does to you, because you are incapable of seeing it from anything but an anti-union perspective.

The NFL has had record profitability and popularity for years. If the owners really are losing money they have had plenty of time to show why that would be true. Now the owners are claiming they have saved enough money to miss a season. Does it sound like they are hurting financially? It sounds like the present system has been been very good to them.

I'm basing my opinion on the facts as we know them. You are basing yours on unsubstantiated fear and personal bias. Personally, I don't care who gets how much. However, I do want football. The owners are preventing that from happening right now. I hope the players are successful in forcing the owners to honor the existing contracts so that we have football this year. The hearing is currently scheduled for April 6. Assuming the date doesn't get changed, we may know rather soon whether the owners will get to cancel the season.

Since: Dec 07

DuPage County

#14 Mar 15, 2011
GBPfan wrote:
<quoted text>Thanks for admitting I was right about you. As I said, you can't tell who is union and you are too stupid to think outside of your own biased views. I am a successful business owner. I've never been in a union and I never will be in a union. However, I'm capable of seeing beyond my own interests and experiences. You obviously are incapable of assessing facts objectively.

The NFL has become the most popular and successful sport in the history of this great nation. The NFL created that success under the existing system. If it isn't broke, the owners shouldn't greedily claim it needs to be fixed. The players are willing to play under the system that has been in place for many years. In fact, the first scheduled court hearing is an attempt by the players to force the owners to end the lockout. The players would then play under the existing contracts which the owners are refusing to honor. The OWNERS anounced their intention to opt out of the CBA years ago. The very first proposal they presented was one week after they started the lockout and with only a few hours remaining in an extension in negotiations. Does that sound like good faith negotiations to you? I imagine it does to you, because you are incapable of seeing it from anything but an anti-union perspective.

The NFL has had record profitability and popularity for years. If the owners really are losing money they have had plenty of time to show why that would be true. Now the owners are claiming they have saved enough money to miss a season. Does it sound like they are hurting financially? It sounds like the present system has been been very good to them.

I'm basing my opinion on the facts as we know them. You are basing yours on unsubstantiated fear and personal bias. Personally, I don't care who gets how much. However, I do want football. The owners are preventing that from happening right now. I hope the players are successful in forcing the owners to honor the existing contracts so that we have football this year. The hearing is currently scheduled for April 6. Assuming the date doesn't get changed, we may know rather soon whether the owners will get to cancel the season.
Own your own business? Ha! The last time someone of your caliber claimed they owned their own business they were flipping burgers at White Castle. Claim anything you want you moron. I'm done with you, as you're too stupid to waste a good online fight on.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#15 Mar 15, 2011
Saluki Rod wrote:
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Own your own business? Ha! The last time someone of your caliber claimed they owned their own business they were flipping burgers at White Castle. Claim anything you want you moron. I'm done with you, as you're too stupid to waste a good online fight on.
Is that the best you've got moron? Go back to your loser job flipping burgers. It's obviously the only thing you know about. It figures. Anybody jealous of union workers has to be a moron holding a really crap job.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#16 Mar 15, 2011
Saluki Rod wrote:
<quoted text>
Own your own business? Ha! The last time someone of your caliber claimed they owned their own business they were flipping burgers at White Castle. Claim anything you want you moron. I'm done with you, as you're too stupid to waste a good online fight on.
BTW moron, didn't you claim I was a union worker? White Castle workers are union? I'll have to take your word for it. I'm sure you would know.

Sorry, but White Castle wouldn't have me. For some reason places like that don't hire people with doctorate degrees that have owned their own business for decades. Please tell me all about it.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#17 Mar 17, 2011
Why did the owners have to lock out the players and the fans? The NFL is enjoying record profits and record popularity. TV contracts bring in more money for the NFL than ever before. Fans are paying more for everything from tickets to merchandise to concessions and parking. The owners have recently added license fees for the season tickets many have purchased for decades. And taxpayers around the country have purchased the owners new and more profitable stadiums. The owners are saying that record profits from a sport that is growing in popularity is NOT enough. So they have locked us all out. Why? What was wrong with the system that made them all incredibly wealthy and blessed? Haven't we fans given the owners enough?
Donovan McNabb

Brooksville, FL

#18 Mar 17, 2011
Screw the owners !

The players can sit back, wait, and rely on their college degrees to fall back on.
GBPfan

Colorado Springs, CO

#19 Mar 17, 2011
Donovan McNabb wrote:
Screw the owners !
The players can sit back, wait, and rely on their college degrees to fall back on.


Luckily for the owners they don't need an education or any discernible skills or ability. The owners earned their money the old fashioned way -- they INHERITED it. Many of their fathers became rich because of the talent of NFL players.
batmanismad

Berkeley Heights, NJ

#20 Mar 18, 2011
Who cares.. I would not give a rat's ass to the NFL or their players. Good riddance.

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